iDK the condition of kb m on ps3 as I only use DS3 but I started gaming fps on pc with doom and quake eventually Halo 1 CE for PC, that was a game very similar to Dust514 in terms of ttk and the importance of strafing, I could 3sk most people with my pistol those of us who played it through to about 2007 tried several times switching to a, DS3 style of controller for the PC and we sucked, this game had no aim assisit and the fact is kbm was way more accurate, so from that experience thats why we have aim assist, that being said I wish we didnt.

I still however think if kbm inputs are sub par that they could and should be attended to, if technology is the limiting factor then please just tell us. I also understand the focus on the primary input device for this gaming system, I also think you need to cater to your nerds in Eve that might want to do something in between jumping gates and sitting in front of their kbm getting crumbs off of left click.

We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes.

And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS.

When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim?

If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought.

Nope just cellar dwelling, 30 year old neck bearded, virginal, mama's boys make up the PC master race. Boy isn't stereotyping fun! Anybody can do it.

As a KB&M user, shut your pie hole you flame bait *****. how about instead of undermining your position you support a thread that had momentum and wasn't a divisive community spiting post.

please never post on these forums again.

Ah, a dead corporation. Well, it may surprise you to learn that the PS3 has native KBM support. Try plugging in a keyboard sometime! Have you ever wondered how people navigate Netflix or the PSN store? What fool would slowly type in each letter in a search with a controller? Even Sony realizes that the KBM is an essential form of input.

Pretty sure that "from the beginning of shooters" it was keyboard only (arrow keys to move/turn, and generally space to fire)

KB/M support honestly just needs to be removed
Trying to balence DS3 and KB/M against each other is impossible.

Actually, FPS's started with a controller.

Also, Raw Input will never make it into the game. Controllers don't stand a chance.

I haven't been here since Chromosome so I can't really talk about the old controls,

but I CAN tell you this:

If you are so dissatisfied, HTFU. The only ones who use KB/M are probably EvE players. You can also, use controllers if you'd like. If that doesn't help and you're still dissatisfied, you can give me your isk and leave.

Balancing will be here between both control methods, so stay if you'd like, or leave. The game is slowly, but surely, improving.

If you want to use KBM go play a PC shooter, this is a console game it should have only been DS3 but whiny eve players didn't want to adapt.

DS 3 just feels comfortable to me

You're not supposed to feel comfortable. You're supposed to feel efficient.

Is the game aiming for you? Yes, it is. You're not efficient.

You're not supposed to feel comfortable. You're supposed to feel efficient.

Is the game aiming for you? Yes, it is. You're not efficient.

We all know that the proper way to play an FPS is with a keyboard and mouse. From the very beginning of shooters, the KBM has been there, providing precise inputs and numerous ways to interact with the game. However, since the introduction of the controller, many users have become blinded and disoriented. Several poor souls haven't even used the KBM, believing the slow, inefficient controller and analog sticks to be the proper method of playing FPSes.

And those blinded and ignorant few are the loudest whiners. Look at how they've demanded CCP introduce and buff Auto Aim. See how they cease the calls for control fixes once their slice of the pie is dealt with. Look how vehicle inputs have ludicrously been optimized for controllers with no consideration given to the keyboard and mouse. One need only try to fly a dropship with a mouse or sit in the passenger seat of an LAV and try to look around. The wild oscillations of the camera show how little thought CCP has given to the rightful heirs and most numerous progeny of the FPS.

When will CCP give proper attention to those silent, languishing masses? When will the absurd sensitivity of the camera within a vehicle be attended to? When shall the KBM user, discriminated against and looked down upon, be able to play an FPS not just on equal ground as their poor wayward controller brethren, but as the FPS is meant to be played? With a Keyboard, Mouse, and no auto aim?

If ever there was a time for oppressed souls to rise up, it would be now. But alas, they shall stay silent. They will watch, and one day, fade away, barely even a memory. For they stay polite and speak only when spoken to, but the loud controllers hurtle verbal vomit with nary a thought.

Ah, a dead corporation. Well, it may surprise you to learn that the PS3 has native KBM support. Try plugging in a keyboard sometime! Have you ever wondered how people navigate Netflix or the PSN store? What fool would slowly type in each letter in a search with a controller? Even Sony realizes that the KBM is an essential form of input.

Try the ps move u have it easy

Kb/m master race. Stupid controller peons. . You have never experienced the awesomeness of good mouse input. Maybe you couldnt handle it. You need your f*cking aim assist to do anything.


CCP give us raw mouse input so we can make these little DS3 kids go to their mama and cry!

What I really don't want is a pointless forum war between DS3 and KBM. We can coexist. I don't want either to be more OP than the other. I want both to work properly (the Move too). Right now, the KBM needs work to bring it up to par with the DS3.

That doesn't necessarily mean raw input. I'm pretty sure Chromosome wasn't and it worked great for both.

+1

If anything DS3 users should promote and support kb/m just like any other input CCP has promised along with Dust, if for nothing else but for the future of this game: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131284

How can you make the case that KB/M is superior, and in the same post complain about aim assist for controllers?