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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3717	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:47:00 - [1] - Quote What is your opinion on the matter? With racial parity finally being achieved for dropsuits, do you believe that it is necessary? If yes, then should it be a complete refund of infantry skills (Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry)?; or should it simply be a Dropsuit Command refund? Why or why not? -HAND. Respecs need to happen in 1.8. End of discussion.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3717	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote Reserved because I can. Respecs need to happen in 1.8. End of discussion.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2686	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:54:00 - [3] - Quote I'm against regular respecs but a refund of the three infantry trees would go a long way towards apologizing to the players for the slow content release over the last year. I was fortunate that my two primary suits have been in for a while so my skills won't look very different but I feel for those that have had limited options for their preferred races. Just do it this last time CCP. It doesn't cost you anything. Add in a buy back of non-officer gear like you did in 1.7 to free up all that cash people have in gear they'll be skilling out of. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8133	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:57:00 - [4] - Quote I support a full respec, personally. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10188	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:58:00 - [5] - Quote Full Infantry Respec Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Centurion mkII Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 194	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:59:00 - [6] - Quote I say Yes to a respect. Here is why. Were getting to the point now where we have all the racial types for 6 "Classes". Were finishing off 3 but now In my mind we have a sizable base. We also have 4 side arms ( maybe 5 when the patch comes out ) and now we have what 10 light weapons and 2 heavy weapons. People should now be able to choose their role freely now. Its not about choosing a new suit. Its we have a large chunk of what could be in the game and we have the most important parts ( Suits ). People can choose their roles now. To do that it requires a refund in command , upgrades and weapons. Imagine you switch races and need different module skills or different weapons because your faster or slower. Edit: Bonuses and slots ( confrimed amarr heavy/commando , minnie/gallente scout ) are changing. Your suit may no longer fit the role you had in mind and old suits now have new roles. Also keep in mind how sweeping these changes are. It isn't just one suit. Q. Doesn't this mean a respec each time something new is added? A. In the future I only for see 1 suit being added a year or maybe 1-3 weapons a year. That isn't enough justification for future respecs. You made your suit choice and the majority of people got to make their preferred weapon choice. Q. Im a heavy and I don't want to use either hmg or forge gun. A. To my knowledge ccp hasn't said yes where doing another heavy weapon. Of-course they will but they haven't described it. You don't know what it could be so what are you waiting for ? Nothing you took a risk. I do understand heavy choices are limited. So i say do a tripple sp event before the heavy weapons come out and tell us when. CCP Can't go by hand and refund all the hmg or forge skills. It would take too long.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5617	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:00:00 - [7] - Quote Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry refunds. Pretty much every suit is getting new slot layouts and CPU/PG numbers so this completely alters what you need to do in Dropsuit Upgrades to properly use the suit. Some suits like the Commando now pretty much require you use specific weapons if you really want to maximize effectiveness. I'm not asking for regular respecs though, ideally this would be the last respec we ever get. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1007	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:00:00 - [8] - Quote I want candy.
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 94	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:01:00 - [9] - Quote Full infantry would be nice.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2896	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:03:00 - [10] - Quote A dropsuit respec is the least we should get. No.

m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 247	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote If they are bringing in all of the racial suits (other than the pilot suits) I feel they should definitely provide players with a respec for "Dropsuit Command" and "Dropsuit Upgrades". I know a fair amount of people who run Caldari suits ONLY due to their interest in Eve and were only ever given two options but always wanted to play as a scout or heavy. Now that the Caldari will be getting all of their suits, as will all other races, people should now be given the choice if they want to respec into those suits or not. CCP built this "racial" loyalty Eve side where players were able to always pick which ships they wanted to fly from any race, players were not given that option in Dust. Now that that option exists a respec should be given to those loyalists CCP helped to mold.
T'orq DUST University Ivy League 160	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:05:00 - [12] - Quote I say Yes to an Infantry Respec WHY: 1. My alt is a Heavy/Commando, and we have had only 1 racial suit. 2. The bonuses to the logi/assault/scout suits are going to change( this toon is logi ) 3. Now the commandos have bonuses for their racial weapons. Thanjac- Proud Member of Commando 6 ARC Instructor
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 448	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:07:00 - [13] - Quote At least a refund for SP invested in the Amarr heavy tree and the Gallente/Minmatar light trees Anything more than that would be nice, but I'm not counting on it
Oswald Rehnquist 1135	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:09:00 - [14] - Quote I'm against it for 1.8 because we still haven't technically hit racial symmetry (vehicles/weapons), not only that things are going to be rebalanced again for 1.9, and people will be whining again. If we are going to have a respec, it should come with 2.0 Below 28 dB
McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 515	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:09:00 - [15] - Quote I support full infantry/weapon respec. Although I don't care either way personally. I'll probably respec into the same stuff I have now anyway. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole Durka durka.... Bitch.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 247	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:09:00 - [16] - Quote I messed up :)
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 109	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:09:00 - [17] - Quote Full SP REFUND... New suits ... New Skills ... New butt load of stuff!!! I want to go fat suit all the way... Hope I get a full refund... CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3720	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:10:00 - [18] - Quote MrShooter01 wrote: At least a refund for SP invested in the Amarr heavy tree and the Gallente/Minmatar light dropsuit trees Anything more than that would be nice, but I'm not counting on it If they are going to do it for some parts of the tree, then they'd have to do it for all parts of the skill tree. Fair is fair. Could you imagine how much rage, smoke, and anger the community would have if they only gave certain people a respec? And the forums... Oh god. What Would Larry Do? He'd probably drink some Quafe... Goes To Refrigerator
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 742	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:11:00 - [19] - Quote I'd say its not up to us. Refunds are only needed for the sake of the game and not the players. If they do decide that it is necessary then my guess would be only command tree will be refunded Possible the upgrades too but not strictly necessary Weapons? nope. There is still much to be added so supplying a refund to this area makes little sense. They'll only have to do it again when more is added and that isn't good for the game "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 283	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:12:00 - [20] - Quote pdiddy anfama wrote: Full SP REFUND... New suits ... New Skills ... New butt load of stuff!!! I want to go fat suit all the way... Hope I get a full refund... when they add the new suits and skill would that mean they will refund all our skills we put into weapons

Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 354	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:14:00 - [21] - Quote Heavys only respec is me being nice, since they didnt even have a second suit to try. But if it was up to me I would have no respec what so ever.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3720	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:17:00 - [22] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: I'd say its not up to us. Refunds are only needed for the sake of the game and not the players. While it may not be entirely up to us, CCP has proven time and time again that they actually care about what the playerbase thinks. Sure CCP may not be the best at listening to feedback, and sometimes causes more problems then they solve; but based on their replies to ideas and threads, it would be foolish to say that CCP doesn't have at least a slight interest in what we care about. What Would Larry Do? He'd probably drink some Quafe... Goes To Refrigerator
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Mocking Bird Inc. 633	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:20:00 - [23] - Quote Full respec or infantry respec. While some choices are still potent it sux to have a cool and unique fit getting nerfed because of major game changes. No longer a shield of Cat Merc.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10189	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:23:00 - [24] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Full respec or infantry respec. While some choices are still potent it sux to have a cool and unique fit getting nerfed because of major game changes. And how many of us thought cloaks would actually arrive in 2014, if ever? And it's not simply a new equipment, considering that scouts now directly benefit from them through their suit bonus. That alone is a huge change. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3720	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:27:00 - [25] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: I want candy. Do you consider skill point refunds as candy? What Would Larry Do? He'd probably drink some Quafe... Goes To Refrigerator
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1698	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:56:00 - [26] - Quote Well, its lime a bought a Ferrari without a Ferrari engine. Then I bought the engine. I saved up for years to afford all of it. Then the next morning my Ferrari became an F-250 and the engine could not be returned. What I mean by this is that since drop suits skills directly tie into weapons, equipment, and modules, EVERYTHING has changed. Everything except vehicles needs to be refunded BC the way every suit works has changed and now some other SP is not useful where it is. This is why an infantry-everything SP refund is in order. I don't want my stupid callogi anymore. Just gimme Cal Assault with RailRifle or a MN Assault with Creodron Shotgun and damage mods everywhere. Either way I'd be giggling. **** this stupid equipment I bought. Waste of SP now. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Hynox Xitio The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 5	Posted - 2014.01.20 21:01:00 - [27] - Quote This is an odd one, obviously people who invested in heavy or light frame suits should get their skillpoints in those skills returned, but as for a full respec, I can't say I would vouch for that. History shows us that every time a game lets players respec, the variation of playstyles and equipment becomes stagnant, as everyone generally flocks to the so-called "fit of the month," I would certainly enjoy a full respec, but its a double edged sword, and I'd be content with just getting my dropsuit skills returned.
CPL Bloodstone Neanderthal Nation 243	Posted - 2014.01.20 21:03:00 - [28] - Quote Full respec but this is the very last one. Should be communicated byCCP that this is it. No more partial respects of any kind unless ccp horribly screws something up. Woman are like bacon, They Smell , look, taste good and slowly kills men.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1056	Posted - 2014.01.20 21:07:00 - [29] - Quote Full respec, non-optional (forced) for CCP to be more effective this time.
calvin b Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 1406	Posted - 2014.01.20 21:10:00 - [30] - Quote Full respec or at the very least suit and weapon SP refund. Core skills is one I can see not being refunded. Unless core skills are changing there should not be a refund in those points. TANK514 another sign of cancer in the game



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