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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1611
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:09:00 -
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CCP dual tanking has got to go. It is ruining balance within this game. Once damage modifiers become a thing of the past it's going to be the same thing as before either you shield tank or you dual tank no exception. For those of you who have forgotten a dual tanked caldari Assault has 552 (625.55 now) shields, 392 armor, 25 sHP/s on a 5/8 delay, and 5 armor repair. That's over 1000 eHP with the fastest passive repair outside a scout. A dual tanked Gallant Assault has 367.8 shields, 716.25 armor, 20 sHP/s on a 7/10 delay, and 5 armor repair. Both of these suits are just ungodly.
If these suits were not dual tanked the Caldari assault would have an EHP of 745.5 and whatever he puts in his lows other than armor, and the Gallante assault would have 826.25 EHP and whatever goes in his highs.
P.S: don't remove dual tanking unless you provide logical slot distributions. For example with the current slot distribution it is impossible to follow logical racial profile. Specially without capacitor...
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Ripcord19981
Knightz of the Round Legacy Rising
343
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:18:00 -
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i tried shield only and its a f***ing joke. It not worth it at all.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1611
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:19:00 -
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Ripcord19981 wrote:i tried shield only and its a f***ing joke. It not worth it at all.
Only because everybody else is dual tanking.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Mortedeamor
1250
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:21:00 -
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well that makes my new amar assault look like trash cause u know 25% bonus on 5hps modules isa big help
jihhhaders = av lvl 0
swarm master = av lvl 99+
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
5438
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:22:00 -
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What's worse yet is that with the new heavy suits (both Sentinel and Commando) each race is getting quite a bit of their weak tanking type, so they sort of have to dual tank. In my opinion, the HP on all heavy suits should shift away from the weak tanking type and into the strong tanking type, but maintaining the same combined HP.
ARC Commander
CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
594
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:23:00 -
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Winmatar: Dual tanking before it was cool.
What does a Minmatar use in battle?
Whatever he can acquire, be it Minmatar tech, or something picked off the enemy.
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1381
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:25:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP dual tanking has got to go. It is ruining balance within this game. Once damage modifiers become a thing of the past it's going to be the same thing as before either you shield tank or you dual tank no exception. For those of you who have forgotten a dual tanked caldari Assault has 552 (625.55 now) shields, 392 armor, 25 sHP/s on a 5/8 delay, and 5 armor repair. That's over 1000 eHP with the fastest passive repair outside a scout. A dual tanked Gallant Assault has 367.8 shields, 716.25 armor, 20 sHP/s on a 7/10 delay, and 5 armor repair. Both of these suits are just ungodly.
If these suits were not dual tanked the Caldari assault would have an EHP of 745.5 and whatever he puts in his lows other than armor, and the Gallante assault would have 826.25 EHP and whatever goes in his highs.
P.S: don't remove dual tanking unless you provide logical slot distributions. For example with the current slot distribution it is impossible to follow logical racial profile. Specially without capacitor... Good luck fitting that
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
416
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:27:00 -
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Are we talking about dual tanking in the aspect that Shield-intended suits will always also stack plates, or that armor-intended suits will also stack extenders, or both? There's different methods to solve those two issues, and it comes by way of either making the support mods (like regulators) more enticing, or making something useful for high slots (rather than just damage mods).
Here you can type your bio.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1611
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:33:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP dual tanking has got to go. It is ruining balance within this game. Once damage modifiers become a thing of the past it's going to be the same thing as before either you shield tank or you dual tank no exception. For those of you who have forgotten a dual tanked caldari Assault has 552 (625.55 now) shields, 392 armor, 25 sHP/s on a 5/8 delay, and 5 armor repair. That's over 1000 eHP with the fastest passive repair outside a scout. A dual tanked Gallant Assault has 367.8 shields, 716.25 armor, 20 sHP/s on a 7/10 delay, and 5 armor repair. Both of these suits are just ungodly.
If these suits were not dual tanked the Caldari assault would have an EHP of 745.5 and whatever he puts in his lows other than armor, and the Gallante assault would have 826.25 EHP and whatever goes in his highs.
P.S: don't remove dual tanking unless you provide logical slot distributions. For example with the current slot distribution it is impossible to follow logical racial profile. Specially without capacitor... Good luck fitting that
It can be done now
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
442
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:36:00 -
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The Infected One wrote:Winmatar: Dual tanking before it was cool.
Right, just don't have a choice.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1381
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:39:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP dual tanking has got to go. It is ruining balance within this game. Once damage modifiers become a thing of the past it's going to be the same thing as before either you shield tank or you dual tank no exception. For those of you who have forgotten a dual tanked caldari Assault has 552 (625.55 now) shields, 392 armor, 25 sHP/s on a 5/8 delay, and 5 armor repair. That's over 1000 eHP with the fastest passive repair outside a scout. A dual tanked Gallant Assault has 367.8 shields, 716.25 armor, 20 sHP/s on a 7/10 delay, and 5 armor repair. Both of these suits are just ungodly.
If these suits were not dual tanked the Caldari assault would have an EHP of 745.5 and whatever he puts in his lows other than armor, and the Gallante assault would have 826.25 EHP and whatever goes in his highs.
P.S: don't remove dual tanking unless you provide logical slot distributions. For example with the current slot distribution it is impossible to follow logical racial profile. Specially without capacitor... Good luck fitting that It can be done now What lmao..I know what I'm doing later
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Aisha Ctarl
Pradox One Proficiency V.
2927
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:41:00 -
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I straight up armor tanking (as an Amarrian should) on my suits - Complex Plates in the lows, Complex Damage mods in the highs, shield extenders are an unnecessary expense for an armor tanker.
Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
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Mortedeamor
1252
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP dual tanking has got to go. It is ruining balance within this game. Once damage modifiers become a thing of the past it's going to be the same thing as before either you shield tank or you dual tank no exception. For those of you who have forgotten a dual tanked caldari Assault has 552 (625.55 now) shields, 392 armor, 25 sHP/s on a 5/8 delay, and 5 armor repair. That's over 1000 eHP with the fastest passive repair outside a scout. A dual tanked Gallant Assault has 367.8 shields, 716.25 armor, 20 sHP/s on a 7/10 delay, and 5 armor repair. Both of these suits are just ungodly.
If these suits were not dual tanked the Caldari assault would have an EHP of 745.5 and whatever he puts in his lows other than armor, and the Gallante assault would have 826.25 EHP and whatever goes in his highs.
P.S: don't remove dual tanking unless you provide logical slot distributions. For example with the current slot distribution it is impossible to follow logical racial profile. Specially without capacitor... Good luck fitting that It can be done now What lmao..I know what I'm doing later yeah its for realz ridiculous hiem hiem
jihhhaders = av lvl 0
swarm master = av lvl 99+
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
2661
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Posted - 2014.01.19 17:58:00 -
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I went 22-2 last night in a recharge oriented shield only Minmatar logistics M-I defending an objective against a squad. I've been changing all my fits to not rely on armor modules even though I have maxed armor skills. I'm doing it mainly as an experiment but so far I'm happy with it. I guess it depends on your combat style.
// Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
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