DUST Search - Players hiding in the MCC not doing anything

TechMechMeds wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

Until ccp gives an isk gain alternative I think its only fair we can afk. We shouldn't be forced to play pubs nor argue over the morality of it.

Fair on who? It's not fair on the other players on your team when you avoid helping. I think we should be clear that this is not a victim-less action. When you AFK you are not improving the match you are in. I think it can be said unequivocally that you are harming it.

Do you think any new players are having their experience of the game made more or less positive by your actions? How about those who can only play a few games a night as they have many commitments? That short play window they have is disrupted by one sided matches often made possible by one team having 16 players on the field and the other 10, with 6 in the MCC.

Because you want ISK but do not want to play the game as it is currently to gain this ISK does not mean you should feel justified in your actions. We may need other ways to get ISK, but that does not justify you making the game less enjoyable for others so you can get what you want.

When you AFK you spoil the game for those who enjoy it. You may hate pubs, or find justified frustration with the issues the game has but some players do not feel that way. There are issues with match making, lag and so on and these things make a game less enjoyable and need to be addressed but you have to realize that AFKing is also one of the issues in that same list.

With all due respect, how the hell am I supposed to gain isk for my corp when I hate pubs? I have no choice but to do them when I don't want to in the slightest., I hate them and CBA with them that much that if its going to be a long shtty slog to win a silly pub match then I really CBA, I'm just saying.

So as I said, instead of us biaching over justifications and morality, ccp should put some focus on keeping newbs in the academy or give us alternatives to make isk.

I'm sorry mate but I really don't care, theres nothing that anyone can say that will make me care, I'm not in charge of new players length of time spent in the academy or alternative isk gain choices.

o7

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steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2173	Posted - 2014.01.21 10:44:00 - [61] - Quote Blunt truth. If you cant consistently win pubs and FW matches with your squad your going to get your ass handed to you in PC so claiming your grinding for isk to get into PC is either rubished or stupidly underestimate what ur going up agenst. Secondly weather you care or not by AFKing you are runing the game for everyone and frankly im tempted to make sure every corp that encourages afking never holds lands in PC ever, its not like AE needs much of an excuse. If you AFK you are runing the game end off "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 208	Posted - 2014.01.21 10:47:00 - [62] - Quote Z Omega wrote: Subject says it all. Does anyone else get pissed off at the people that just hide in the MCC, not doing anything? I've played matches 16v16 and 11 players were just sitting in the MCC, moving just a little bit every now and then to not get auto booted. It's irritating that they're taking up space that actual helpful players could be occupying. I can't even think of a good plan that would stop people from doing this, the only one I can think of is the MCC has an auto eject after a certain period of time, but then all they'd do is spawn somewhere else and do f*ck all. Maybe a report function of some kind, but then there is always room for abuse of that. What's other people's thoughts? im sorry, but where's their inccentive to not hide in the MCC? they still get sp, isk, and dont lose any gear. at a personal level, theyre actually winning. so ill just assume hat its all working as intended by CCP
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 749	Posted - 2014.01.21 11:38:00 - [63] - Quote If I push the objectives, kill 4/5 enemies and then get outnumbered/outgunned and I haven't seen a single blue for the first 5 mins then sorry I'm going to stay in the MCC And you know what? I often place 6th or higher for this initial push. If my team sucks that much then why should I waste my isk helping them "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 343	Posted - 2014.01.21 11:45:00 - [64] - Quote I afk because ccp allows and rewards it. Saying that afk'ing ruins the game is a red herring. The game ruins the game and it's not my fault that the sp grind and isk grind is so crap that afk'ing is the solution. That or massive liver damage. Fix red line rail tanks/snipers Fix rediculously stacked proto stomping Fix seven tank blapathons It's almost as if the carrot were more fun to chase, we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place. Instead, i'm catching up on game of thrones while my dude runs into an mcc wall endlessly every 13 minutes.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 482	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:00:00 - [65] - Quote Play a game where you log in and do nothing? Start a game then walk away? How sad is that?? lol how about finding a game that you actually play & enjoy? Get a life? 2 many losers around ruining the experience for others.. My Channel : Valhalla South
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 343	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:06:00 - [66] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: Play a game where you log in and do nothing? Start a game then walk away? How sad is that?? lol how about finding a game that you actually play & enjoy? Get a life? 2 many losers around ruining the experience for others.. Posts in a forum about pretend space mans Uses lol and 2 as words Pot, kettle, something something.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 483	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:20:00 - [67] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: Play a game where you log in and do nothing? Start a game then walk away? How sad is that?? lol how about finding a game that you actually play & enjoy? Get a life? 2 many losers around ruining the experience for others.. Posts in a forum about pretend space mans Uses lol and 2 as words Pot, kettle, something something. Some of us are not native English speakers sunshine. Is this hard to understand? My Channel : Valhalla South
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 343	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:23:00 - [68] - Quote Sincerest apologies. What country's mother tongue is 15 y/o text speak though?
Teilka Darkmist 24	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:42:00 - [69] - Quote If you just sit in the MCC too long, maybe a minute or two, then, regardless of what type of match you're in, you should be kicked so another player can take the slot. No isk, no WP, No LP. Unless you've already been n the ground, then the timer goes up to maybe 5 mins and you keep what you've already earned. That way if a player takes part, dies and has to run afk quickly, to use the toilet for example, you're not unfairly kicked. And if it is a afker, they're swapped out for someone who wants to take part so the team doesn't lose out as much. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be near the opponents redline than own.
Teilka Darkmist 24	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:53:00 - [70] - Quote Sigberct Amni wrote: Fix red line rail tanks/snipers Fix rediculously stacked proto stomping Fix seven tank blapathons It's almost as if the carrot were more fun to chase, we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place. Instead, i'm catching up on game of thrones while my dude runs into an mcc wall endlessly every 13 minutes. E: just wanted to highlight the irony of steadyhands' signature wrt him hating afk'ers Redlininghas an in game tactic to counter it, tanks and snipers. 'Protostomping, 'blapathons' and 'tankspam' just need the market to be connected to eve to fix, even without that good teamwork makes it possible to overcome the situation. AFKing in an MCC has no in game counter. If you're saying the game is too broken in your opinion to be fun to play. Stop playig and trying to ruin the experience for people who think it is fun to play. I'm sure CCP will miss your monthly subscription... Oh, wait, you get to play dust completely for free don't you? When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be near the opponents redline than own.

CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 18	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:10:00 - [71] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Until ccp gives an isk gain alternative I think its only fair we can afk. We shouldn't be forced to play pubs nor argue over the morality of it. Fair on who? It's not fair on the other players on your team when you avoid helping. I think we should be clear that this is not a victim-less action. When you AFK you are not improving the match you are in. I think it can be said unequivocally that you are harming it. Do you think any new players are having their experience of the game made more or less positive by your actions? How about those who can only play a few games a night as they have many commitments? That short play window they have is disrupted by one sided matches often made possible by one team having 16 players on the field and the other 10, with 6 in the MCC. Because you want ISK but do not want to play the game as it is currently to gain this ISK does not mean you should feel justified in your actions. We may need other ways to get ISK, but that does not justify you making the game less enjoyable for others so you can get what you want. When you AFK you spoil the game for those who enjoy it. You may hate pubs, or find justified frustration with the issues the game has but some players do not feel that way. There are issues with match making, lag and so on and these things make a game less enjoyable and need to be addressed but you have to realize that AFKing is also one of the issues in that same list. With all due respect, how the hell am I supposed to gain isk for my corp when I hate pubs? I have no choice but to do them when I don't want to in the slightest., I hate them and CBA with them that much that if its going to be a long shtty slog to win a silly pub match then I really CBA, I'm just saying. So as I said, instead of us biaching over justifications and morality, ccp should put some focus on keeping newbs in the academy or give us alternatives to make isk. I'm sorry mate but I really don't care, theres nothing that anyone can say that will make me care, I'm not in charge of new players length of time spent in the academy or alternative isk gain choices. o7 This message of itself is enough to throw a big red flag to any of you newer players lol. Stay far far away from this corp :p PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 0	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:11:00 - [72] - Quote It is a minor form of exploit. Worse ones include the ones spamming hives in the redline and accumulating WPs. And yes it is cheating to get active SP when not active. I'd use the Olympic Games drug cheat system. AFK Multiple times in week and his isk and SP get reset to starter level. Get reset multiple times all your accounts get baselined. Two or more members of your player corp do it and the whole team gets penalized.
sira draco Ancient Erectiles 40	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:39:00 - [73] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: In pubs? Yeah I afk in pubs. Swamps simply grinding isk with a high corp tax rate to get into pc quicker. If the enemy team is a bunch of proto pub star nubs then I afk, thrn come on here or bang my gf. Pubs are pure meh and your quip is with ccp for giving us no options but to grind in shtty pub matches. If theres an actual decent opposing team we'll bother, but usually its just scum and theres not enough fks given between us to even bother in pubs. And I speak for a lot guaranteed. Now how does it go? Ah yes. Inb4newbssayishouldgiveAfk I agree, this is the real issue, this game is so unbalanced that most matches become very boring and I have no desire to even play the game, so I finish the match in the mcc


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