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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:55:00 -
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Iv not done pc for a few months so rather than post in general, I thought I'd come here to maybe back up mine and swamps view on tanks and I'll keep it short.
Scenario 1 - tanks are on the field, we CBA to blow them up so we just ignore them, maybe once or twice I/we get mown down, Boohoo, we accept the mow down.
Scenario 2 - Dumb fks either try to solo and get buggered or even worse, they try to solo when the hardeners are active, same result. (No one in swamp is dumb enough to do that unless we are high)
Scenario 3 - two of us get av fits, we keep our distance and then once the tanks hardeners are on cool down we pop it, or die but sht happens.
Scenario 4 - forge guns, enough said.
So we believe 1 and 2 is what half these nubs are doing and whining about, because they are fking up and don't actually realise they are doing so, where as people executing scenarios 3 and 4 have no problems, we know because we do them regularly.
So I'm asking pc active players, are these people that are whining just nubs that want it easy. For the sake of simplicity I left out other scenarios, some don't even need to be said really, proxy's, jihad Jeeps, rail tanks etc.
Are tanks 'op' in pc? Because we doubt it. I can imagine tank spam is op but spamming anything is op. Iv just had enough of the tanks are op spam, ccp even stated that tanks will be balanced over time and I'm not seeing much feedback, just whining.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2186
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:59:00 -
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I forgot to mention, if this is the case I'll be posting in general discussion for people to stfu provided what I/we believe is correct.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:18:00 -
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tanks in PC = all rails and 1 blaster tht hopes to not get raped by rails. :)
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2188
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:21:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:tanks in PC = all rails and 1 blaster tht hopes to not get raped by rails. :)
Are they really that hard for infantry who know what they are doing to blow up? Rail tanks will always be a biach. You are one of the people I'd hoped would reply actually.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1497
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:23:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:tanks in PC = all rails and 1 blaster tht hopes to not get raped by rails. :) Are they really that hard for infantry who know what they are doing to blow up? Rail tanks will always be a biach. You are one of the people I'd hoped would reply actually. well forges can kill the tanks but why waste infantry who could also die to other infantry compared to another rail tank who can only die to another rail tank. Rail tank is the most efficient. forges on roofs are still a pain but only for blaster tanks as rails normally aren't near them.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1900
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:31:00 -
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Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks
So about those vehicle locks...
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2188
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:42:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:tanks in PC = all rails and 1 blaster tht hopes to not get raped by rails. :) Are they really that hard for infantry who know what they are doing to blow up? Rail tanks will always be a biach. You are one of the people I'd hoped would reply actually. well forges can kill the tanks but why waste infantry who could also die to other infantry compared to another rail tank who can only die to another rail tank. Rail tank is the most efficient. forges on roofs are still a pain but only for blaster tanks as rails normally aren't near them.
Of course, thank you.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1499
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:42:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks u used to see me, but then u started to spam rails.
even EHP tanks hide since all PC is whoever has the mt rails to deal with enemy tanks XD.
right now i have to hide and come out of nowhere and KAPOW!
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2188
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:44:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks
Ok that's quality, my tanker alt is specced purely for tank v tank as well so happy days.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1901
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:49:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks u used to see me, but then u started to spam rails. even EHP tanks hide since all PC is whoever has the mt rails to deal with enemy tanks XD. right now i have to hide and come out of nowhere and KAPOW! Yup. Are you coming out of your temporary retirement yet? I wanted to be in the match tonight, but had some stuff to do QQ. Might want to be careful burning out there Bob.
So about those vehicle locks...
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1500
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:51:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks u used to see me, but then u started to spam rails. even EHP tanks hide since all PC is whoever has the mt rails to deal with enemy tanks XD. right now i have to hide and come out of nowhere and KAPOW! Yup. Are you coming out of your temporary retirement yet? I wanted to be in the match tonight, but had some stuff to do QQ. Might want to be careful burning out there Bob. i already said i would be back on monday. it's in one of my other threads.
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Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2188
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:52:00 -
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So basically, the people whining really are nubs and also whining about the random matchmaking of pubs/fw, tanks are not really op are they?
The icing on the cake is that ccp is still a way off from balancing them and people forget that.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1500
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:53:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:So basically, the people whining really are nubs and also whining about the random matchmaking of pubs/fw, tanks are not really op are they?
The icing on the cake is that ccp is still a way off from balancing them and people forget that. they r only OP in numbers. but then again so is AV. well forges at least.
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8213
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1356
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:58:00 -
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In pubs, people spam tanks and don't go for the objectives. They don't care if they win or lose, they just want to spam as many tanks as they can.
In PC, winning matters. You're not going to win a game by tank spamming in PC, because tanks can't hack objectives or even give cover fire to most objectives.
Fish in a bucket!
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2189
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Posted - 2014.01.18 00:59:00 -
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Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2189
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:00:00 -
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And theres the obligatory forum warrior likes lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1504
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:04:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought. we?
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2189
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:06:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought. we?
The other guy in my head, nah lol the rest of swamp.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1504
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:06:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought. we? The other guy in my head, nah lol the rest of swamp.
Main - BobThe843CakeMan
Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details.
Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
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8213
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:07:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought. we? The other guy in my head, nah lol the rest of swamp.
They're coming...
Fish in a bucket!
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1902
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:09:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Tanks aren't a problem in PC. While the infantry do their things, tanks are constantly engaged in a chess match if you will in an effort to eliminate the other tanks from the field. They push objectives, defend them, and require teamwork to take down-which is how it should be. The only thing that kills high ehp fits are other tanks. The powerhouse tanks like bob runs that have little resist die up close to forges, so you may never see them if they are in your match. Blaster tanks can be nasty, but that's what high ehp rails and missiles are for.
TL;DR bring your own tanks to the fight and you won't have to deal with enemy tanks u used to see me, but then u started to spam rails. even EHP tanks hide since all PC is whoever has the mt rails to deal with enemy tanks XD. right now i have to hide and come out of nowhere and KAPOW! Yup. Are you coming out of your temporary retirement yet? I wanted to be in the match tonight, but had some stuff to do QQ. Might want to be careful burning out there Bob. i already said i would be back on monday. it's in one of my other threads.
So about those vehicle locks...
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
1505
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:09:00 -
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8213 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Ok thank you very much, just as we'd thought. we? The other guy in my head, nah lol the rest of swamp. They're coming... o no....
no
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FORGOT THE BUG SPRAY
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2190
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:27:00 -
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Actually considering the alliance we are joining and our affiliates, yes we are coming expect much fun
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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GVGMODE
WorstPlayersEver
103
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Posted - 2014.01.18 02:08:00 -
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In PC you cannot have enemy tanks or dropships roaming around the maps going uncontested because as soon as they figure it out.. prepare yourself for painful match where blaster tanks tear your infantry and dropship missiles bring fear from the sky.
So the main task of a pilot is to neutralize other pilots as much as possible. If you want to use AV specialists they will take time and guns out of your team. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2190
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Posted - 2014.01.18 02:15:00 -
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GVGMODE wrote:In PC you cannot have enemy tanks or dropships roaming around the maps going uncontested because as soon as they figure it out.. prepare yourself for painful match where blaster tanks tear your infantry and dropship missiles bring fear from the sky.
So the main task of a pilot is to neutralize other pilots as much as possible. If you want to use AV specialists they will take time and guns out of your team.
With all due respect, you just pointed out the obvious and don't seem have understood or read the thread but thanks.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1904
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Posted - 2014.01.18 02:42:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:GVGMODE wrote:In PC you cannot have enemy tanks or dropships roaming around the maps going uncontested because as soon as they figure it out.. prepare yourself for painful match where blaster tanks tear your infantry and dropship missiles bring fear from the sky.
So the main task of a pilot is to neutralize other pilots as much as possible. If you want to use AV specialists they will take time and guns out of your team. With all due respect, you just pointed out the obvious and don't seem have understood or read the thread but thanks. Nope. He's spot on. The result of this are railguns everywhere attempting to lock down areas as efficiently as possible.
So about those vehicle locks...
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2190
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Posted - 2014.01.18 03:03:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:GVGMODE wrote:In PC you cannot have enemy tanks or dropships roaming around the maps going uncontested because as soon as they figure it out.. prepare yourself for painful match where blaster tanks tear your infantry and dropship missiles bring fear from the sky.
So the main task of a pilot is to neutralize other pilots as much as possible. If you want to use AV specialists they will take time and guns out of your team. With all due respect, you just pointed out the obvious and don't seem have understood or read the thread but thanks. Nope. He's spot on. The result of this are railguns everywhere attempting to lock down areas as efficiently as possible.
Please explain how stating that letting vehicles run about uncontested is bad isn't obvious, the op was relevant to fw and pubs, obviously in pc you can't simply ignore vehicles and scenarios 1 and 2 are what you shouldn't do, as I stated.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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8213
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1364
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Posted - 2014.01.18 07:27:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: o no....
no
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FORGOT THE BUG SPRAY
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I already started thawing the ground in order to dig a hole for myself to hide in.
Fish in a bucket!
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
2197
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Posted - 2014.01.18 07:43:00 -
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8213 wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote: o no....
no
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FORGOT THE BUG SPRAY
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I already started thawing the ground in order to dig a hole for myself to hide in.
Is that a subtle battle of the bulge reference or have I drunk far too much energy drink again?
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1657
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Posted - 2014.01.19 21:42:00 -
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Well, tanks are working great in PC. The objective in PC is to keep objectives and tanks can't do that.
Blaster tanks hold open ground and harass infantry. Rails and Missiles kill blaster tanks.
Any team without tanks loses. Any team with too many tanks loses. It's about finding the sweet spot.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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