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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:30:00 -
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Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back?
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:51:00 -
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+1
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:02:00 -
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Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out.
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Jack Louphane
Hugen and Munen Joint Air Operations
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:09:00 -
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YES PLEASE! |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:56:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out.
Thanks, appreciate the response. If this is not super complicated aka mimic uplink rewards, lets make it happen =)
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:41:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out.
If you could also pass on the reminder that I would prefer it not to be instakilled when I use a mCRU I would be happy. :)
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
127
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:58:00 -
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Also! Reminder for Warpoint based on damage done for us Forge Gunners that lost our much needed splash damage.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
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FarQue FromAfar
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:02:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out.
Yes there needs to be a warpoint reward for a MCRU. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
87
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:24:00 -
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If there is a WP reward it should be lower than an uplink, or the mcru should have a spawn limit. |
Vell0cet
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
800
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:27:00 -
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This is a no-brainer.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:02:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:If there is a WP reward it should be lower than an uplink, or the mcru should have a spawn limit.
Honestly I get less spawns on a mCRU then uplinks because mCRU is always 10 seconds and is glitched right now since you body has to be bleed out before you can spawn on it. I fly dropships all the time, so believe me I know how often people actually spawn on them. So unless they offer more levels of mCRU with faster spawns/higher spawn limits, I would not want limits.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
48
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Posted - 2014.01.18 23:05:00 -
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I had been thinking it could be worth more than a standard uplink. More people would then rely on Mcrus instead of regular uplinks and this might decrease uplink spam. I don't think it would be OP either, as in most cases the vehicle that has the greatest spawn effect, std DS, also costs a single clone to operate and not fight as a slayer. Also, most vehicles don't have staying power and can be pushed back so constant spawning wouldn't be too problematic. And if you time your shots right, you could kill a fully loaded vehicle.
FAME
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
48
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Posted - 2014.01.18 23:21:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Reign Omega wrote:If there is a WP reward it should be lower than an uplink, or the mcru should have a spawn limit. Honestly I get less spawns on a mCRU then uplinks because mCRU is always 10 seconds and is glitched right now since you body has to be bleed out before you can spawn on it. I fly dropships all the time, so believe me I know how often people actually spawn on them. So unless they offer more levels of mCRU with faster spawns/higher spawn limits, I would not want limits.
Agreed, also fix the cursed mCRU issue. It should work like field uplinks.
FAME
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1045
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:50:00 -
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CCP you didn't think I would let you forget about this did ya?
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
134
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Posted - 2014.02.10 19:55:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:CCP you didn't think I would let you forget about this did ya?
I did...
BUMPBUMPBUMPBUMP!
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1917
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:16:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? I support this +1
Also if there are any concerns from a balance standpoint about mCRU spawns, please still give the WP and just add a cooldown or cap on them. That can be fine tuned to the right level as needed but our vehicle support crews really do deserve to get earnings for their contributions.
0.02 ISK Cross
SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:51:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? I support this +1 Also if there are any concerns from a balance standpoint about mCRU spawns, please still give the WP and just add a cooldown or cap on them. That can be fine tuned to the right level as needed but our vehicle support crews really do deserve to get earnings for their contributions. 0.02 ISK Cross
5 WP / no limit or cooldown. 10 WP / no limit but there is a short cooldown every 4 spawns. 25 WP / ~20 max spawns but no cooldown
Just my brainstorm. I'm not a vehicle enthusiast so I'll leave the bulk of discussions to you guys.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
82
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:02:00 -
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When you reward vehicle spawns, restrict the mCRU function to vehicles with free seats!
I'm tired of tanks with no passenger seats, that spit you out just to be overrolled by them.
No CRU funcionality without free seats!
Cheers Mad |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.11 01:33:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? I support this +1 Also if there are any concerns from a balance standpoint about mCRU spawns, please still give the WP and just add a cooldown or cap on them. That can be fine tuned to the right level as needed but our vehicle support crews really do deserve to get earnings for their contributions. 0.02 ISK Cross
There are already global limit in place, spawns take 10 seconds already so few are spawning on them at the moment, so for the time being, just add the reward and then when they implement tiers of mCRUs, then they can add timer limits and faster spawn times.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
138
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:18:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:When you reward vehicle spawns, restrict the mCRU function to vehicles with free seats!
I'm tired of tanks with no passenger seats, that spit you out just to be overrolled by them.
No CRU funcionality without free seats!
Cheers Mad
No seats no spawn. That should not even work to begin with.
No limit should be used, as most vehicles are not around long enough for it to matter.
But it should have an extended cool down after so many spawns, maybe 8? And then have an 80 second cool down.
FAME
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
919
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Posted - 2014.02.11 06:41:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out. While we're on this topic, can we actually get higher meta mCRUs? With the nerf coming to uplinks, having faster spawning mCRUs could be pretty valuable and perhaps even usable.
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
497
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Posted - 2014.02.11 11:38:00 -
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It's almost 2 years people asks for this...
I would like to remember to the people who belives mCRU wp should be lower than uplink and/or limited that in order to fit a mCRU you have to make considerable sacrifices in either tank or utility, so i don't feel the need to limit the mCRU or have reduced WP. |
Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1918
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:56:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? I support this +1 Also if there are any concerns from a balance standpoint about mCRU spawns, please still give the WP and just add a cooldown or cap on them. That can be fine tuned to the right level as needed but our vehicle support crews really do deserve to get earnings for their contributions. 0.02 ISK Cross There are already global limit in place, spawns take 10 seconds already so few are spawning on them at the moment, so for the time being, just add the reward and then when they implement tiers of mCRUs, then they can add timer limits and faster spawn times.
Seems solid to me. mCRUs cost SP, ISK, and CPU/PG, just like anything that a Merc is spending resources/taking on risk to field they deserve to have a robust and balanced earnings reward potential linked to their use. I hope we see WP for mCRUs coming to Dust very soon.
Cheers, Cross
PS ~ If it matters to anyone I say this as an infantrymen and support Logi so more effective and used mCRUs will likely cut my own WP a bit, but I 100% they they are a good thing for the game and should be rewarded for the tactical value they're providing. I want to earn my WP for doing my job well, not by stopping players from having any other option, so again as an infantry player, please CCP give our vehicle Mercs WP for mCRU spawns, they're doing the work, they deserve the reward.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:10:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:When you reward vehicle spawns, restrict the mCRU function to vehicles with free seats!
I'm tired of tanks with no passenger seats, that spit you out just to be overrolled by them.
No CRU funcionality without free seats!
Cheers Mad No seats no spawn. That should not even work to begin with. No limit should be used, as most vehicles are not around long enough for it to matter. But it should have an extended cool down after so many spawns, maybe 8? And then have an 80 second cool down.
the no seats thing is a bug that they know about.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.11 17:18:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Being reminded (personally), I'll make sure the reminder gets passed along. Not sure on the complicated question, but I'll try and find out. While we're on this topic, can we actually get higher meta mCRUs? With the nerf coming to uplinks, having faster spawning mCRUs could be pretty valuable and perhaps even usable.
One thing at a time, overloading them usually results in long development times
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:39:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:It's almost 2 years people asks for this...
I would like to remember to the people who belives mCRU wp should be lower than uplink and/or limited that in order to fit a mCRU you have to make considerable sacrifices in either tank or utility, so i don't feel the need to limit the mCRU or have reduced WP.
Indeed, the cost on mCRU does take considerable PG to equip yet there is little benefit to having it.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:17:00 -
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When can we expect issue like this one to be worked on again?
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.18 18:38:00 -
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Starting a poll on what player think the reward should be when this gets added.
http://strawpoll.me/1178317 Vote today
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:09:00 -
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We got 25WP in the lead with 16 votes, followed up by 35WP in second place with 5 votes.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
169
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Posted - 2014.02.18 22:14:00 -
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Voted!
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3186
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Posted - 2014.02.18 23:24:00 -
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Damn it I now officially miss my Prometheus
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3716
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:38:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Damn it I now officially miss my Prometheus That makes 2 of us...I miss the magic flying school bus
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3189
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Posted - 2014.02.19 00:56:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Damn it I now officially miss my Prometheus That makes 2 of us...I miss the magic flying school bus I never used it when Uprising came out.... only in Chromosome and little of Codex
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MRBH1997
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
66
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Posted - 2014.02.19 01:14:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back?
And sense there only seems to be a standard simply add the advanced and proto with quicker spawn times to put the skill more useful past lvl 1.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire
508
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Posted - 2014.02.19 02:37:00 -
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as a support logi, I think mCRUs should definitely be awarded the same as uplinks. However, I agree. no seats, no spawn. I get really angry when my screen lights up and i'm being steamrolled.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
432
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:12:00 -
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honestly could be abused but i think wp for any type of spawn, uplink or crew should be
5% of wp earned by that person till they die
Proud Christian
add p2p already!
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Thrillhouse Van Houten
DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance
83
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Posted - 2014.02.19 04:35:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:honestly could be abused but i think wp for any type of spawn, uplink or crew should be
5% of wp earned by that person till they die
This is a great idea, frankly. It encourages people to place GOOD/SAFE uplinks rather than getting points even if someone just spawns and dies on the uplink.
I like the no seats/no spawn rule for mCRUs. The only problem? What if nobody will vacate the seats once spawned. It'd tick me off if I built a non-ADS Dropship for personnel insertions with a mCRU and a bunch of clueless blue dots just camped my open seats, making it impossible to spawn more people. An eject option? Could lead to blue griefing...and result in booting blues you want to keep (gunners).
I also think there should be no spawn limit or cooldown, frankly. I run logi and I've played matches where, literally, my entire team has spawned only on my links. I have to die to throw down more links but I completely dominate the WPs for my team. If a driver/pilot can stay alive long enough to have everyone on their team spawn on their rig, I say they DESERVE the WP.
The only problem is HAVs. HAV drivers can rack up sick amounts of WPs, they don't need massive spawn WPs too. Make mCRUs basically impossible to fit on rigs with ANY main guns (ADS and HAVs) by ramping up their CPU/PG costs and then it would be completely fair. |
Gabriel Ceja
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2014.02.19 09:19:00 -
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What about if instead of being passive they turn it into an active module with a fair cooldown time therefore setting a limit in a way and like somebody had mentioned earlier, higher levels of mcru with faster spawn time depending on its level |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1073
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:44:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:Voted!
Great, more votes and interest in this issue, the higher it gets on CCP radar. Post here and vote if you agree with mCRU WP, only way this moves up the list.
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
514
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:25:00 -
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My guess is they're going to have mcrus come with a limit as to how many spawns they will support and this is what will set apart basic from proto mobile crus, but that's the only change I can see coming to them.
It's simple, the guy who called in the vehicle with the cru is the one that gets the team respawn points, just like throwing down an uplink.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback
1017
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:14:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:This is a no-brainer.
indeed.
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AP Grasshopper
The Unit 514
179
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:29:00 -
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Gabriel Ceja wrote:What about if instead of being passive they turn it into an active module with a fair cooldown time therefore setting a limit in a way and like somebody had mentioned earlier, higher levels of mcru with faster spawn time depending on its level
I Like this alot |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1074
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:32:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Brush Master wrote:Cross Atu wrote:Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? I support this +1 Also if there are any concerns from a balance standpoint about mCRU spawns, please still give the WP and just add a cooldown or cap on them. That can be fine tuned to the right level as needed but our vehicle support crews really do deserve to get earnings for their contributions. 0.02 ISK Cross There are already global limit in place, spawns take 10 seconds already so few are spawning on them at the moment, so for the time being, just add the reward and then when they implement tiers of mCRUs, then they can add timer limits and faster spawn times. Seems solid to me. mCRUs cost SP, ISK, and CPU/PG, just like anything that a Merc is spending resources/taking on risk to field they deserve to have a robust and balanced earnings reward potential linked to their use. I hope we see WP for mCRUs coming to Dust very soon. Cheers, Cross PS ~ If it matters to anyone I say this as an infantrymen and support Logi so more effective and used mCRUs will likely cut my own WP a bit, but I 100% they they are a good thing for the game and should be rewarded for the tactical value they're providing. I want to earn my WP for doing my job well, not by stopping players from having any other option, so again as an infantry player, please CCP give our vehicle Mercs WP for mCRU spawns, they're doing the work, they deserve the reward.
Ya I run logi as well but only because Dropships were basically useless to gain WP and help the team in many of the previous builds.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1074
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Posted - 2014.02.20 19:58:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Damn it I now officially miss my Prometheus
Yes and it shall be some time before we see them again
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1074
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:12:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:honestly could be abused but i think wp for any type of spawn, uplink or crew should be
5% of wp earned by that person till they die
interesting idea.
514th Wing // Team Fairy DUST // Havok Core
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1075
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Posted - 2014.02.23 19:00:00 -
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Gabriel Ceja wrote:What about if instead of being passive they turn it into an active module with a fair cooldown time therefore setting a limit in a way and like somebody had mentioned earlier, higher levels of mcru with faster spawn time depending on its level
Module activation on dropships can already be difficult, I would vote no on making it activate only.
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Aerius Corius
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
0
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Posted - 2014.02.23 20:17:00 -
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Adding this would entice more players to at least try to use vehicles - especially dropships.
Should only be +25 like uplinks - people on the ground have to use up resources to fit it too. WIth 1.8 changes (and CCP's hints of making equipment spam go away) mCRU's will be a lot more valuable tactically too, not just WP valuable.
I do think that a mCRU's should also load people out faster than uplinks always. The difference here is risk/reward - that vehicle is a fatter and more expensive target than a scout/logi with an uplink. |
Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:48:00 -
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Should limit the height that people can spawn on them... Or don't allow people to dampen their fall... Otherwise we'll have 10 Gorgons doing nothing but hovering at the map roof every match for free war points, would be as bad as red liners... I'm thinking have the pilot see a timer on how long until someone spawns, which gives them time to get down to a safe drop point. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1077
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:01:00 -
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Aerius Corius wrote:Adding this would entice more players to at least try to use vehicles - especially dropships.
Should only be +25 like uplinks - people on the ground have to use up resources to fit it too. WIth 1.8 changes (and CCP's hints of making equipment spam go away) mCRU's will be a lot more valuable tactically too, not just WP valuable.
I do think that a mCRU's should also load people out faster than uplinks always. The difference here is risk/reward - that vehicle is a fatter and more expensive target than a scout/logi with an uplink.
Fitting a mCRU does take away the survivability of a vehicle and yes with future updates, it looks like uplinks are getting nerfed to make CRUs and mCRUs more beneficial then link spam.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2687
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:06:00 -
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Reminder we need adv/proto MCRU aswell
Intelligence is OP
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13172
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:30:00 -
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To be fixed eventually, lot of things are still getting unfubared from beta if you take a look through the SDE and realize that the mCRU is a weird piece of the puzzle.
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Brush Master
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
1077
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:55:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Should limit the height that people can spawn on them... Or don't allow people to dampen their fall... Otherwise we'll have 10 Gorgons doing nothing but hovering at the map roof every match for free war points, would be as bad as red liners... I'm thinking have the pilot see a timer on how long until someone spawns, which gives them time to get down to a safe drop point.
maybe, if we find people doing this a lot but I could not see someone doing it that often, for one they have to die to spawn, 2 its most likely only going to be done if they are red lined. 3 you can counter it with another dropship.
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Aerius Corius
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:48:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Should limit the height that people can spawn on them... Or don't allow people to dampen their fall... Otherwise we'll have 10 Gorgons doing nothing but hovering at the map roof every match for free war points, would be as bad as red liners... I'm thinking have the pilot see a timer on how long until someone spawns, which gives them time to get down to a safe drop point. maybe, if we find people doing this a lot but I could not see someone doing it that often, for one they have to die to spawn, 2 its most likely only going to be done if they are red lined. 3 you can counter it with another dropship.
The more dropships hanging around for spawns the less fighters on the ground doing what actually wins any of the current modes: body count and capturing points. Not an actual issue anymore than spamming uplinks and nanos. Also - it's pretty easy to see folks sky-diving from a dropship (and thus find and shoot them) and inherent in the inertial dampener animation is a 2 second window of 'standing up' before they can actually fight back...all thing in balance, no?
Dropships in general need a good look at assists - Assault Ships are a little better off by virtue of not being dependent on squad mates for kills. But typical dropships could benefit from variations or bonuses such as...
-Improved scanning for scan assists (the distance for a dropship is much greater than the avg HAV/LAV but they have much higher mobility). A scanning Dropship (the alternative to an Assault for example skill wise) could be called "Scout Ship" or some such. Bonuses to scanning enemies to provide insertion teams more battlefield intel. Would function same as existing scan assists.
-Remote demolitions or bomb dropping. Careful aim and such would be needed, but dropships can become artillery platforms at high speeds as opposed to the current, "HOLD STILL I KEEP MISSING!!!" of the side mounted turrets. WP awarded for kills or assists, not the act in case a dud/miss preventing exploitation.
-Vehicular Transport Tethers: seen in other games with dropship type vehicles, the ability to 'lift' an HAV or LAV and rapidly relocate on the battlefield. Juicy target for AV, but very useful role in cluttered 'urban' maps. Lifting would be a dual confirmation system - dropship requests to lift the LAV/HAV, LAV/HAV confirms the lift or denies (prevents mean pilots from screwing with ground vehicle pilots). WP awarded for when a vehicle transported travels over 300m (or some abitrary distance) or attains a kill or assist within 30 seconds of the dropoff.
-Deployable Installations / Ground Equipment: Similar to vehicle tether, as CCP expands installations and eventually makes them player owned, dropship pilots would be awarded for the successful deployment of an asset (25 WP - nothing amazing and the asset is already team owned, preventing another 50 WP for 'hacking). Assets can only be deployed once - so dropping assets at the start for easy WP would be very pointless. (See Note at bottom how this is prevented also) Additional WP (perhaps 10 or less based on installation) would be awarded each time a DEPLOYED installation is used. EX: 1) 5 Points each time a team member spawns from a deployed CRU. 2) 10 Points each time a team member gains a kill from a deployed turret. 5 points if the turret kill was an assist. 3) I don't know how you could track a Supply Depot without creating unnecessary lag from the point system since it does so much. You can't reward suit changes because that is exploitable without timers, which adds more game lag in tracking. I'd recommend no bonus for Supply Depot usage and perhaps change to 50 WP on deployment.
Note: To prevent exploitation of the mechanic, no two 'alike' installations can be deployed with 100m of each other. This could be suspended in the 'hardcore' matches of PC, but in standard matches this prevents "Bunkers" where a team of dropships could deploy four turrets to a small, ideal location and then provide two CRUs and two depots...potentially match breaking to say the least. Asset deployment is not allowed in red zone nor within a set distance of the MCC (Say 100m from the point on the ground that represents its location) and starting CRU's (Also 100m).
Just various ideas for the dropship class and how it could be expanded without turning it into a WP farming addict. Vehicles should never devolve into WP farming as it can easily break infantry gameplay...and thus the game. Bad game = players leave = sad face.
I'd be open to the idea of an activated mCRU that has distinct tactical advantages such as 3 second or less spawn times and unlimited spawns for, say, a 30 second duration with a 2 minute CD. Calls to mind "Hot Dropping" from EvE. In general though, I think they should not be activated for the sake of not further complicating an already difficult to FLY, let alone tactically use, vehicle.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 13:58:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Reminder we need adv/proto MCRU aswell
one step at a time.
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:To be fixed eventually, lot of things are still getting unfubared from beta if you take a look through the SDE and realize that the mCRU is a weird piece of the puzzle.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting! It does seem like it is out of place. In SDE it was some how connected to the blackops hav and then ported to other vehicles? I get the gist that its hacked together pretty badly and that why they can't simply through +25 on spawns like uplinks give us.
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Posted - 2014.02.27 15:18:00 -
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@Aerius Corius I'd suggest starting a feedback thread of your own for all those ideas
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Posted - 2014.03.01 22:30:00 -
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Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? Update from later in the thread: Vote on how many points a mCRU should give a pilot http://strawpoll.me/1178317 It's really been over 2 years since the idea was brought up on the forums. |
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Posted - 2014.03.04 14:18:00 -
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Poll Update 87 total votes thus far 59 of those are for 25 WP 16 and 16 for 35/15 WP
have you voted? http://strawpoll.me/1178317
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Posted - 2014.03.04 15:03:00 -
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It took over a year to fix the PG on logistics dropships, so I'm not holding my breath for MCRU WP in 2014
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:20:00 -
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Still want these.
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Posted - 2014.03.05 17:08:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:Brush Master wrote:Just a reminder to CCP that vehicle users would still like a simple +25 on mobile CRU spawns. It's been a requested feature for at least a year. Is there something complicated that's holding this back? Update from later in the thread: Vote on how many points a mCRU should give a pilot http://strawpoll.me/1178317 It's really been over 2 years since the idea was brought up on the forums and there has not been a response from CCP saying whether it's planed, being working on it, or neither.
so much has changed as far as the teams working on this, but ya its one of those ongoing requests that everyone knows needs to happen, it's just a matter of making it happen.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:It took over a year to fix the PG on logistics dropships, so I'm not holding my breath for MCRU WP in 2014
Just stick with it and hopefully the devs will notice this.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:52:00 -
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Now that spawn times are being increase, maybe the different levels of mCRU could decrease the amount of time to spawn. It could be put to good use, I think.
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Posted - 2014.05.29 16:32:00 -
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ccp rattati recently said this "On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized."
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Posted - 2014.05.29 18:21:00 -
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Considering it has the option for unlimited spawn-ins, I would agree that a point cap be set after 8-10 spawns. (edit: with a cooldown before points are accumulated again, left that out :P)
Or maybe make the cru have to "recharge"(resupply at a supply depot) and then you could just have a set amount of spawns per tier.
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Posted - 2014.05.29 18:53:00 -
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After 2 friggin' years that people ask for wp for mCru spawns would be NICE if Rattati actually listened to the community. |
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Posted - 2014.05.29 18:57:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:After 2 friggin' years that people ask for wp for mCru spawns would be NICE if Rattati actually listened to the community.
I never gave up asking for it in that time frame either. I'm not sure they have the resource needed to fix it though, as last explained to me, this thing comes from when the black ops tanks were around, the module is actually hacked together from days past, uses a separate system then other spawns and thus much more complex then it seems to be.
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Posted - 2014.05.29 22:14:00 -
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Can tanks have seats regardless if there are turrets on them? That way if a tank doesn't have gunner seats you can still spawn in the tank - the only thing you can do is get in and out. It would also reduce the need for jeeps as you could hop in someone's tank to get where you need to go.
Also an eject button for the driver would be nice. If someone is in your jeep/tank and you don't want them there you can push them out. This would be useful if you wanted to make room for a squad mate, or you wanted to recall the vehicle and need that stubborn blueberry to get out. |
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Posted - 2014.05.29 23:47:00 -
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hell, it's been a requested feature for the entire time I've been playing- in 2 months it'll have been 2 years.
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Posted - 2014.05.30 00:14:00 -
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Cyrus Militani wrote:
Also an eject button for the driver would be nice. If someone is in your jeep/tank and you don't want them there you can push them out. .
This would also be useful for driving into a group of red dots. Hitting the eject button, followed by the nitrous.
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