Mercenaries of New Eden, our Game Design team is now ready to share new Weapon Stats and Ranges planned for the next release!

Please take a look at these spreadsheets and tell us what you think. Remember, this is all still very work in progress!

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[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65556/1/weaponsuprising18.jpg[/img]

UPDATE: And due to the popular demand, here is the excel sheet version of all the data!

Once again, keep your feedback constructive, and we will definitely consider all of it :)

When will uprising 1.8 going to be released?

Will the Gallente commando skill bonus apply to the ion pistol and plasma cannon?

Ion pistol
According to some people who have read a more detailed description of the ion pistol, it overheats after every charge shot. This is a bad idea in my opinion, no one will ever use it f it means they'll be unable to run or switch weapons.

An alternative would be to have the charge shot use up 3 rounds, this way you run out ammo faster and need t reload sooner. No further balancing would be needed after that, since the charge time balances it.

Another option is to make it have a normal heat system like the HMG or scrambler rifle, and just make a charge shot fill the overheat gauge 90%, so the next shot after a charge shot will cause overheat.

That's it

Ion pistol
According to some people who have read a more detailed description of the ion pistol, it overheats after every charge shot. This is a bad idea in my opinion, no one will ever use it f it means they'll be unable to run or switch weapons.

An alternative would be to have the charge shot use up 3 rounds, this way you run out ammo faster and need t reload sooner. No further balancing would be needed after that, since the charge time balances it.

Another option is to make it have a normal heat system like the HMG or scrambler rifle, and just make a charge shot fill the overheat gauge 90%, so the next shot after a charge shot will cause overheat.

That's it

What type of damage does the MagSec do?

Curious to hear from the community on their thoughts about the charge up times and functions for the new sidearms.

Generally I think the charge up mechanic is a good idea in some circumstances...the RR for instance it works very well. I know there is much discussion about the length of the charge time and I make no secret of my opinion that the RR is fine where it's at. That said, I go to my SMG quite a bit to offset the disadvantages of the weapon when things up close.

That said...I would like to know what you guys think of sidearm weapons with a charge up function. With the rail it keeps you honest about staying at optimal range. When you close the gap it seems like the charge up for non-alpha damage weapons can really leave you holding the bag.

For weapons that charge up damage or deliver major first round damage I like the function. It's very much like the options i had with the SCR.

For weapons that deal flat rate damage in short range / CQC the charge up time seems to run very counter to purpose.

Ion pistol
According to some people who have read a more detailed description of the ion pistol, it overheats after every charge shot. This is a bad idea in my opinion, no one will ever use it f it means they'll be unable to run or switch weapons.

An alternative would be to have the charge shot use up 3 rounds, this way you run out ammo faster and need t reload sooner. No further balancing would be needed after that, since the charge time balances it.

Another option is to make it have a normal heat system like the HMG or scrambler rifle, and just make a charge shot fill the overheat gauge 90%, so the next shot after a charge shot will cause overheat.

That's it

Ion pistol
According to some people who have read a more detailed description of the ion pistol, it overheats after every charge shot. This is a bad idea in my opinion, no one will ever use it f it means they'll be unable to run or switch weapons.
That's it

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The range on each of the weapons is hilarious... Seriously CCP. You need to get you act together regarding the ranges of your weapons.



RR is king, CR is queen, Magsec SMG and Bolt Pistol are their babies on steroids... Where does this leaves the rest of your weapons?

Duvolle Assault Rifle
DPS: 467.5
Damage per shot: 37.4
RoF: 750rpm
Charge time: 0s
Magazine size: 60
Damage per magazine: 2,244
Time to empty magazine: 4.8s
Reload time: 3s
PG/CPU: 13/90
Optimal/Effective/Absolute Ranges: 45.0/78.0/250.0

Kalakiota Magsec SMG
DPS: 427.78
Damage per shot: 38.5
RoF: 666.67rpm
Charge time: 0.3s
Magazine size: 54
Damage per magazine: 2079
Time to empty magazine: 5.16s
Reload time: 3.2
PG/CPU: 12/61
Optimal/Effective/Absolute Ranges: 48/66/?

Six Kin Submachine Gun
DPS: 421.67
Damage per shot: 25.3
RoF: 1,000rpm
Charge time: 0s
Magazine size: 80
Damage per magazine: 2,024
Time to empty magazine: 3.6s
Reload time: 3
PG/CPU: 10/57
Optimal/Effective/Absolute Ranges: ?/44/125

Compared to the proto AR, a proto Magsec SMG has/takes up
2 more PG & 4 more CPU
13.2 higher damage per shot
6.11 lower DPS,
88.33 lower rpm,
3m higher optimal range,
12m lower effective range,
165 lower damage per magazine,
0.3s higher charge time,
0.36s longer to empty the magazine, and if you didn't count the charge up time, it would be only 0.06s longer to empty the magazine.

Compared to the proto SMG, a proto Magsec SMG has
1less PG & 29 less CPU
13.2 higher damage per shot
39.72 higher DPS,
333.33 lower rpm,
22m higher effective range,
55 higher damage per magazine,
0.3s higher charge time,
0.36s longer to empty the magazine, and if you didn't count the charge up time, it would be only 0.06s longer to empty the magazine.

Based on this, it's not underpowered, nor overpowered.

What exactly does the Rate of Fire number represent (the in-game metric is Rounds Per Minute iirc)? What is the "max range modifier" variable about? Are the damage stats here representative of the downward adjustments being made to weapon stats to help TTK (since changing weapon stats was mentioned), or are these stats kept at some parity with current weapons for comparison?