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BAD FURRY wrote:

Eko Sol wrote:

So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust?

Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority.

The month of rage.

A not to long time ago....
The Incarna update for Eve-Online is not going especially well for the game's developers, CCP. First, there's the $70 monocle that players can buy and equip to their new avatars. Then there's the threat of pay-to-win items entering the game system via microtransactions. A significant proportion of Eve's playerbase are upset. Significant enough to organise a vast in-game protest at Jita, Eve's trade-hub. The video above comes from that protest, with around a 1000 pilots firing upon the trade-station. This isn't the only protest ongoing; similar protests have taken place across Tranquility this evening.

To be fair, there are also anti-protest protests taking place. And they've got lasers, too. Because that's the kind of game Eve is. More, including CCP's response, below.

The CCP developers have explained some of the thinking behind Incarna and their micro-transaction store in an extraordinary blog-post, titled 'Fearless'.

Here's the killer quote. It's pretty special.

"People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are."

soon after Eve players in Mass started closing there accounts in the fall out from this CCP pulled 98% of its devs from WoD to work on Dust 514 and fired staff to off set the loss of money from the Eve players and to help win there player base back.

as for us Eve players we came back to are beloved word of back stabbings and "can i have your stuff" game world just we still all are hurt that most of us thot that CCP was not going to sell us out and thats why we will never forget that Epic month of rage and why you my dust bunny are here to day and not still in a Beta . happy ?

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Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 39	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:01:00 - [1] - Quote So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 288	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:09:00 - [2] - Quote Heh the WoD team is one guy playing solitaire at this point . They fired most of that staff No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1813	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:09:00 - [3] - Quote With the huge updates we've been getting and are still getting i'd assume this is the main project. Minmatar Assault. Sidearm King. SMG's and Pistols. Melting armour, and blowing heads off. +60
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:09:00 - [4] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: Heh the WoD team is one guy playing solitaire at this point . They fired most of that staff They have a job posting for a dev type role though so I have to believe that some effort is being put forth.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2092	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:11:00 - [5] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. World of newbness is being created by a different ccp team I believe, I wouldn't worry about it. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 120	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:18:00 - [6] - Quote http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/contact HQ in Reykjavik, Island are making EVE Online North America team is making World of Darkness team in Shanghai, China are making DUST 514 team in Newcastle, England are making EVE: Valkyrie So as you can see, different teams around the world work on different projects I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:20:00 - [7] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/contact HQ in Reykjavik, Island are making EVE Online North America team is making World of Darkness team in Shanghai, China are making DUST 514 team in Newcastle, England are making EVE: Valkyrie So as you can see, different teams around the world work on different projects I have very serious experience in IT and I know for a fact that this can be complete b.s. BUT I should have probably checked that LOL.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1502	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:23:00 - [8] - Quote I actually met with the Creative Director of WoD in Vegas, really nice lady. Basically it's being worked on, but the resources behind it are not nearly as heavy as CCP's other major projects. 1.8 Analysis - Sentinel Damage Efficiency Calcs
Horizen Kenpachi TACTICAL STRIKE ELITE 92	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:24:00 - [9] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/contact HQ in Reykjavik, Island are making EVE Online North America team is making World of Darkness team in Shanghai, China are making DUST 514 team in Newcastle, England are making EVE: Valkyrie So as you can see, different teams around the world work on different projects Is there 4 ccp logihoes awesome Hit me with your nerf bat.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 120	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:27:00 - [10] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/contact HQ in Reykjavik, Island are making EVE Online North America team is making World of Darkness team in Shanghai, China are making DUST 514 team in Newcastle, England are making EVE: Valkyrie So as you can see, different teams around the world work on different projects I have very serious experience in IT and I know for a fact that this can be complete b.s. BUT I should have probably checked that LOL. yeah, go and check it out ;) I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits

Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:31:00 - [11] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Eko Sol wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/contact HQ in Reykjavik, Island are making EVE Online North America team is making World of Darkness team in Shanghai, China are making DUST 514 team in Newcastle, England are making EVE: Valkyrie So as you can see, different teams around the world work on different projects I have very serious experience in IT and I know for a fact that this can be complete b.s. BUT I should have probably checked that LOL. yeah, go and check it out ;) LOL, I did once he posted it. But again, I know that a lot of people go across projects and is typically a part of something stupid called "Resource Management" and other nonsense. All of that aside, I believe my questions was answered. Glad to know that there is a single focused team on Dust514 or at least enough focus that it makes sense to continue playing.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1594	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:40:00 - [12] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. everyone learned what NOT to do with dust. so yeah..
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1207	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:46:00 - [13] - Quote At this point as far as I can tell the resources go EVE>DUST>Valkyrie>WOD Tarn chose peace. Tallen chose war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? SoonGäó514
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 271	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:55:00 - [14] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. The month of rage. A not to long time ago.... The Incarna update for Eve-Online is not going especially well for the game's developers, CCP. First, there's the $70 monocle that players can buy and equip to their new avatars. Then there's the threat of pay-to-win items entering the game system via microtransactions. A significant proportion of Eve's playerbase are upset. Significant enough to organise a vast in-game protest at Jita, Eve's trade-hub. The video above comes from that protest, with around a 1000 pilots firing upon the trade-station. This isn't the only protest ongoing; similar protests have taken place across Tranquility this evening. To be fair, there are also anti-protest protests taking place. And they've got lasers, too. Because that's the kind of game Eve is. More, including CCP's response, below. The CCP developers have explained some of the thinking behind Incarna and their micro-transaction store in an extraordinary blog-post, titled 'Fearless'. Here's the killer quote. It's pretty special. "People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are." soon after Eve players in Mass started closing there accounts in the fall out from this CCP pulled 98% of its devs from WoD to work on Dust 514 and fired staff to off set the loss of money from the Eve players and to help win there player base back. as for us Eve players we came back to are beloved word of back stabbings and "can i have your stuff" game world just we still all are hurt that most of us thot that CCP was not going to sell us out and thats why we will never forget that Epic month of rage and why you my dust bunny are here to day and not still in a Beta . happy ? Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 431	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:57:00 - [15] - Quote world of what? A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 41	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:07:00 - [16] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. The month of rage. A not to long time ago.... The Incarna update for Eve-Online is not going especially well for the game's developers, CCP. First, there's the $70 monocle that players can buy and equip to their new avatars. Then there's the threat of pay-to-win items entering the game system via microtransactions. A significant proportion of Eve's playerbase are upset. Significant enough to organise a vast in-game protest at Jita, Eve's trade-hub. The video above comes from that protest, with around a 1000 pilots firing upon the trade-station. This isn't the only protest ongoing; similar protests have taken place across Tranquility this evening. To be fair, there are also anti-protest protests taking place. And they've got lasers, too. Because that's the kind of game Eve is. More, including CCP's response, below. The CCP developers have explained some of the thinking behind Incarna and their micro-transaction store in an extraordinary blog-post, titled 'Fearless'. Here's the killer quote. It's pretty special. "People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are." soon after Eve players in Mass started closing there accounts in the fall out from this CCP pulled 98% of its devs from WoD to work on Dust 514 and fired staff to off set the loss of money from the Eve players and to help win there player base back. as for us Eve players we came back to are beloved word of back stabbings and "can i have your stuff" game world just we still all are hurt that most of us thot that CCP was not going to sell us out and thats why we will never forget that Epic month of rage and why you my dust bunny are here to day and not still in a Beta . happy ? I'm not sure of what this means as a whole. I gather that they pulled extra resources from WoD to work on Dust514 and Eve to rectify some of the customer outrage. Is that accurate?
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3569	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:14:00 - [17] - Quote Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? We used to have a time machine
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1595	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:17:00 - [18] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? It's a bloody vampire social game. where you accumulate exp by now playing the game. wife played the hell out of it. sounds familar..
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 41	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:17:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? I think, based on public info, it is just an MMO like any other that is in very early development. Typically, that early indicates that they are still on drawing boards and taking the "MMO is an ART" route where they make it as they go along.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1595	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:18:00 - [20] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? I think, based on public info, it is just an MMO like any other that is in very early development. Typically, that early indicates that they are still on drawing boards and taking the "MMO is an ART" route where they make it as they go along. Sorry thought you meant the original one. what WOD is based on.

Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2586	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:21:00 - [21] - Quote What's been stated (I think, memory vague) and don't quote me, CCP mentioned slowing down the development of WoD to focus on Dust growth for the year 2013. I think I read that in a random game article. So I wouldn't be surprised if that game gets some kind of development revival mid year. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 121	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:23:00 - [22] - Quote World of Darkness is fantasy set in the modern world Vampire The Masquerade Jihad Card Game (original name) Werewolf Faerie etc A lot of RPG and card games set in a universe so chock full of fantasy creatures that humans are the rarity. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 2737	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:25:00 - [23] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? A waste of resources that COULD be used on projects that actually generate revenue.
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 226	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:26:00 - [24] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. This guy reminds me of those Planet Side 2 bombers we had. All over the forums. I pick dust514. CCP has shown hope. Last year was really hard but they are showing they do pay attention. Just takes a while to get it rolling. Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 95	Posted - 2014.01.15 01:14:00 - [25] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Eko Sol wrote: So anyone know if WoD is the priority right now for CCP or not? Is Dust514 kind of an operational experiment? Do the devs share roles in all of their projects? What percentage of work force is applied specifically to Dust? Not bringing negative criticisms BUT I don't want to stick out a game that is just a side experiment while other projects take priority. The month of rage. A not to long time ago.... The Incarna update for Eve-Online is not going especially well for the game's developers, CCP. First, there's the $70 monocle that players can buy and equip to their new avatars. Then there's the threat of pay-to-win items entering the game system via microtransactions. A significant proportion of Eve's playerbase are upset. Significant enough to organise a vast in-game protest at Jita, Eve's trade-hub. The video above comes from that protest, with around a 1000 pilots firing upon the trade-station. This isn't the only protest ongoing; similar protests have taken place across Tranquility this evening. To be fair, there are also anti-protest protests taking place. And they've got lasers, too. Because that's the kind of game Eve is. More, including CCP's response, below. The CCP developers have explained some of the thinking behind Incarna and their micro-transaction store in an extraordinary blog-post, titled 'Fearless'. Here's the killer quote. It's pretty special. "People have been shocked by the price range in the NeX store, but you should remember that we are talking about clothes. Look at the clothes you are currently wearing in real life. Do you have any specific brands? Did you choose it because it was better quality than a no-name brand? Assume for a short while that you are wearing a pair of $1,000 jeans from some exclusive Japanese boutique shop. Why would you want to wear a pair of $1,000 jeans when you can get perfectly similar jeans for under $50? What do other people think about you when they see you wearing them? For some you will look like the sad culmination of vainness while others will admire you and think you are the coolest thing since sliced bread. Whichever it is, it is clear that by wearing clothes you are expressing yourself and that the price is one of the many dimensions that clothes possess to do that in addition to style and fit. You don't need to buy expensive clothes. In fact you don't need to buy any clothes. Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are." soon after Eve players in Mass started closing there accounts in the fall out from this CCP pulled 98% of its devs from WoD to work on Dust 514 and fired staff to off set the loss of money from the Eve players and to help win there player base back. as for us Eve players we came back to are beloved word of back stabbings and "can i have your stuff" game world just we still all are hurt that most of us thot that CCP was not going to sell us out and thats why we will never forget that Epic month of rage and why you my dust bunny are here to day and not still in a Beta . happy ? i'm sorry i dont get it, whats ur point? Less QQ more PewPew
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1035	Posted - 2014.01.15 01:57:00 - [26] - Quote When EVE hit the fan a douple years back they fired the Atlanta WoD team. DUST hit the skids and they fired the WoD team. Anytime they hit a snag with what they are working on GÇö they will fire the WoD team. Maybe if they get things going right with DUSTA they'll jire them back and do something; but, only in between their other EVE related projects. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Kasira Vorrikesh Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2014.01.15 03:32:00 - [27] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Does anyone know what WoD ACTUALLY IS? This thread proves (yet again) what a mistake it was for CCP to even think of developing WoD; people here either don't know what it is, or superficially know what it is and then spit on it. I guess I can thank Twilight for the latter response. Ugh. WoD's about being a monster in a world of other monsters. Rise to the top by slowly forsaking humanity, or maintain your morality at the cost of power and (in)glory. It's not the kind of game that would attract the average Twihard; it'd in fact repel most. If you focus on the core themes of the setting and not just the vampire ****, it's rather philosophical; not really suited for an MMO game, if you ask me. As for how much CCP's invested in it, someone else here said it best: when anything goes wrong, WoD's the first thing they hack to pieces. Please, CCP: admit you made a horrible blunder and sell the rights to WoD once and for all. EVE/Dust fans will be happy, WoD fans will be happy; and the two never really should have been near each other in the first place.


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