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Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2849	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:58:00 - [1] - Quote CCP has stated that they are changing the bonuses on the dropsuits and may change the base stats of the dropsuits as well. For example, the Amarr Assault could now have a bonus of (I'm making these up) 5% Armor plate efficacy per level, 3% reduction in Laser Weapon Seize period when overheated, and have the HP value of 120/240. If CCP did not offer the possibility of a respec, the issue of "hey, this isn't what I signed up for, the roles were changed from under me!" will arise. Technically CCP doesn't have to offer anything, but it would be a very unwise choice for a respec not to be given if base stats and bonuses are actually changed. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1892	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:58:00 - [2] - Quote I got 32Mil SP that won't be going into the new sh*tty Amarr Ass suit then(If SISI bonuses stay) Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5072	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:01:00 - [3] - Quote "Likely" is an understatement, it is happening. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1633	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:05:00 - [4] - Quote A drop suit SP refund is inevitable. A full respec for everything not vehicle not too improbable..., in fact, it's preferred BC the changes to drop suits affect equipment, modules, and weapons. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2100	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:05:00 - [5] - Quote They know that 50% of the playerbase would be gone and never heard from again if they didn't. Beer before Liquor, never sicker. Toothpaste before Orange Juice, you're dead.
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1892	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:06:00 - [6] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: They know that 50% of the playerbase would be gone and never heard from again if they didn't. This is said every time we get something new or something is changed. Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2850	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:10:00 - [7] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: A drop suit SP refund is inevitable. A full respec for everything not vehicle not too improbable..., in fact, it's preferred BC the changes to drop suits affect equipment, modules, and weapons. This is what I'm referring to - the refunding of SP in the dropsuit skill tree to be reallocated by the player, not a full respec. Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5075	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:10:00 - [8] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: A drop suit SP refund is inevitable. A full respec for everything not vehicle not too improbable..., in fact, it's preferred BC the changes to drop suits affect equipment, modules, and weapons. A full respec is out of the question, we just got a vehicle respec last update and nothing dramatic is changing there. An infantry respec is all but certain. What you skill into for dropsuit upgrades directly depends on what you do for dropsuit command. If you put a lot of points into armor modules because the Amarr sentinel has all those low slots, good luck trying to make use out of that if you are moving to Caldari Sentinel. Or if they take away the scout's sidearm, good luck making use of that fully maxed out SMG/scrambler pistol or whatever. Even Commandos, now you have to use specific weaponry to take advantage of the racial bonus. Dropsuit Command, Dropsuit Upgrades, and Weaponry will all be refunded. There's no other way about it. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4032	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:12:00 - [9] - Quote It will most likely be a partial respec just like the SP refund from vehicles. Only vehicle skills were refunded.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2103	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:14:00 - [10] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rynoceros wrote: They know that 50% of the playerbase would be gone and never heard from again if they didn't. This is said every time we get something new or something is changed. And it happens. Natalie Portman.

Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1895	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:23:00 - [11] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rynoceros wrote: They know that 50% of the playerbase would be gone and never heard from again if they didn't. This is said every time we get something new or something is changed. And it happens. No it does not Selling Templar BPO 300Mil Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5076	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:26:00 - [12] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Rynoceros wrote: They know that 50% of the playerbase would be gone and never heard from again if they didn't. This is said every time we get something new or something is changed. And it happens. No it does not Viktor is correct, Dust's player base has been stable for quite a few months now. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1043	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:33:00 - [13] - Quote CCP change stuff all the time without giving SP refunds. They are going through an absolutely massive tiericide programme on Eve, with dozens of ships changing quite dramatically, and haven't given any refunds there. Don't get your hopes up. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
ratamaq doc Edge Regiment 369	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:37:00 - [14] - Quote I would like a dropsuit respec. gonna have to leave the soon to be worthless, squishy, medic race for a sleek, thick, target acquisition race. I'll miss my minlogi, but to hell with being reduced to a Walking Fatty Active Module. YouTube 30D Recruiting
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5076	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:37:00 - [15] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: CCP change stuff all the time without giving SP refunds. They are going through an absolutely massive tiericide programme on Eve, with dozens of ships changing quite dramatically, and haven't given any refunds there. Don't get your hopes up. "Changing" is a very broad term. Changing by tiericide and bringing everything closer together wouldn't warrant a respec because those ships still perform the same role, even if not as good. But what is happening in Dust is different, as they are changing the actual function of the suits. If say Minmatar Logistics was getting it's bonus changed from 5% hacking speed per level to 2% hacking speed per level, that wouldn't require a respec as it would still be a hacking logi and function the same way. The Minmatar Logistics getting it's bonus changed from 5% hacking speed per level to 5% repair tool repair rate and range per level however is completely changing the function and what it is used for on the battlefield. That is just an example, but the same can be said for just about every suit in Dust with these changes. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
PEW JACKSON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 188	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:41:00 - [16] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: CCP change stuff all the time without giving SP refunds. They are going through an absolutely massive tiericide programme on Eve, with dozens of ships changing quite dramatically, and haven't given any refunds there. Don't get your hopes up. Eve has thousands of different things you can do besides worrying about what changed. Dust has a marketplace that gets new shiny every now and then.... Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 5077	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:43:00 - [17] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I would like a dropsuit respec. gonna have to leave the soon to be worthless, squishy, medic race for a sleek, thick, target acquisition race. I'll miss my minlogi, but to hell with being reduced to a Walking Fatty Active Module. Proto Min logi gets 4 equipment, and a bonus to all of them (fitting reduction). You could also provide your team spawn points or ammo, revive them, scan for them, and all that good stuff. Heck, the Minmatar logi racial bonus includes a range buff to repair tools as well, and there are already some really long range repair tools. You could heal multiple targets from quite a far distance, and not just heavies. There's a lot more to a logi then just Sentinel support (which is beneficial support, as the Sentinel protects the logi). But yes, the logi is a selfless role dedicated to supporting its teammates. If you're skilling into it for any other reason then you'll probably end up disappointed, but if you are skilling into it for that reason you never will be disappointed because any potential future logi changes will be to make it better at supporting teammates. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist Orion Empire 18	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:45:00 - [18] - Quote I think we will get a drop suit and light weapon refund. Because of new suit bonuses (if coming) and new guns -Open Beta Vet-11 mil sp- Dust 514 recruitment link here
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1077	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:49:00 - [19] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: CCP has stated that they are changing the bonuses on the dropsuits and may change the base stats of the dropsuits as well. For example, the Amarr Assault could now have a bonus of (I'm making these up) 5% Armor plate efficacy per level, 3% reduction in Laser Weapon Seize period when overheated, and have the HP value of 120/240. If CCP did not offer the possibility of a respec, the issue of "hey, this isn't what I signed up for, the roles were changed from under me!" will arise. Technically CCP doesn't have to offer anything, but it would be a very unwise choice for a respec not to be given if base stats and bonuses are actually changed. Pauses Dragons Dogma. A respec is inevitable. WHY? Decreasing playerbase. If the 3X SP event has no longlasting effects then CCP has no other option. Numbers? K! 70 million PS3 sold for 4k Dust playerbase. An 80 million PS3 total sold means a larger potential Dust playerbase. But we are still at peak 4k. In otherwords 70m ps3 for 4k THEN. 80m ps3 sold means a larger potential userbase and thus even for static numbers this then means that we needed to be at 4500 to 5000 for STATIC dust playerbase numbers. That we are at 4k in the face of a LARGER ps3 sold number means an imploding dust playerbase. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-06-playstation-3-sales-hit-80-million Goes back to playing Dragons Dogma. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
MassiveNine 0uter.Heaven 767	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:50:00 - [20] - Quote Probably a dropsuit respec, nothing else. I hope so at least. Does anyone know if the basic frames are staying? Official DUST514 LAV Mechanic



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