DUST Search - new scout needs help.

One Eyed King wrote:

hidden noob wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence.

I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on.

What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks.

Good luck brother knifer.

the problem is without a scanner i cant see what is around me. im alrady getting zero kills most games. and without my scanner i wont get even one. ive manged 3 kills in the last few games ive played today. man this is hard work.

Running the Gal scout, you have an advantage with scanning range. Think about where you want to stick scanning range and precision skills in your future SP spending. Word is that if you get them skilled up enough as a Gal, you are like a walking scanner. Esp if you end up adding a range increasing module.

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Varoth Drac The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 9	Posted - 2014.01.14 21:57:00 - [31] - Quote Make a suit with dampeners. If you get scanned switch to the dampened suit (2 x militia). If that doesn't work you are likely getting proto stomped anyway so don't worry. Nova Knives are very hard to use and are kind of useless until advanced level. They are fun though, just don't expect to get a fantastic score. If you are sure about them get advanced knives asap. Go for backstabs on stationary targets to start with. Your radar is your best weapon either with an active scanner or not. Scouts aren't getting nerfed but they are changing. One potential change is that you might find your suit with no sidearm slot and an extra equipment slot, which would kind of spoil your knifing. This isn't confirmed though. Avoiding scanners may be getting easier though. Rail rifles are good not op and are great for flanking with a scout suit. Personally I prefer shotguns or combat rifles but that is the beauty of this game, each to his own.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 992	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:47:00 - [32] - Quote I salute you for choosing a difficult, underdog playstyle. o7 I second the advice of working on skilling up your profile dampening and making a fit with 2 militia dampeners on it so you can get below ADV scanners, as Quil and Varoth mentioned. Being unseen is key.... scan range and scan precision help you in picking up enemies at greater ranges as well so these are important passive skills, but profile dampening is more of a priority as you can just up your situational awareness and visually scan your surroundings to spot enemies. Using the scanner is fine, although it alerts others to your presence, so many scouts forgo it. You can do a lot of damage with the regular RR so I'd leave further weapon skills for later and not skill up your RR anymore. Also - just type "LFS" in Scouts united and someone can pick you up. I'm happy to squad with you in-game anytime and can help you train in scoutly things. Bojo is a good player so if he's willing to train you it's a very good offer as well. Also, the corp "R0N1N" is a scout only corp, if they are still active.
hidden noob Algintal Core Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.01.16 17:12:00 - [33] - Quote thanks for all the advice guys. gonna try out the damps. i think ill get my gall scout skill to 2 then hit up my damping skill. i have manged to kill a few guys with my knives. a blue glowing guy firing at a tank and some dudes hacking things. aim for the head =)
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1125	Posted - 2014.01.16 17:59:00 - [34] - Quote knives and the RR are a bad combo, the RR is best used at medium long range and leaves you hurting in the medium short range arena. combo RR with a smg for better dps across different ranges. racial scout 5 ~ 3 million sp profile dampening 3 ~ 500k SP that combo will put you under 90% of active scanners passively. sadly most scout builds are really really high SP because we rely so heavily on our passive skills. the standard caldari med frame has the same slot layout as the gallente ADV scout, you might wanna use that while you fill out your cores it'll give you a little more ehp. I feel so bad for you. you get all the ****** parts of the scout suit and none of the good stuff. "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 233	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:29:00 - [35] - Quote I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence. I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on. What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks. Good luck brother knifer. Scouts don't let scouts accept more nerfs. Just say no to needless scout suit sacrifice.
hidden noob Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:41:00 - [36] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence. I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on. What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks. Good luck brother knifer. the problem is without a scanner i cant see what is around me. im alrady getting zero kills most games. and without my scanner i wont get even one. ive manged 3 kills in the last few games ive played today. man this is hard work.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 547	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:41:00 - [37] - Quote I may be stupid, but if you play scout like a camper, and don't dampen(hear me out) people will think you're a sniper, that's when you waltz to the nearest corner and wait for them to sneak up on you, then just knife them. Use the Flux basic scanner, as you'll be spending less time scanning, and you'll be scanning out past RR optimal. If you see 'some margin' there's a black eagle or basic light, AR them for the cash. If they pop up, try your damndest to knife em. Sidearm damage mods should be your high slot, and run kin/cardi. The idea is that you should stick with the allies, and use them as your 'stealth'. On radar they can't tell you from a heavy, and if you move only walking, and hiding in 'heavy spots' or 'sniper holes' with a space to sprint the enemy, then you'll rack up kills. If you're on at 2-5 EVE time i can show ya how i do it. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
Mechoj Nomreps Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 146	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:42:00 - [38] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Hidden Noob, listen to me Just recently my legacy was taken down, a corporation called BSOTT (Bojo's School of the Trades). I am now taking on 2-3 younglings under my wing to teach them the ways. A few other people will be doing similarly with other players of other types. I'm offering you a seat. I'm a vet and have been playing my role as of a year now, ever since Tranquility shift (when this game integrated with EVE) Good job man, if you need any help just let me know.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 547	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:44:00 - [39] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence. I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on. What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks. Good luck brother knifer. Not necessarily, i've noticed that people pay absolutely no heed to 'you have been scanned' Unless of course, they're redline snipers. Knowing that there's 3 people in that room is much more preferable than thinking one guys in there, but it turns out there's a heavy that your prey was going to go heal. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) I have a God, His name is Dakka.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 234	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:46:00 - [40] - Quote hidden noob wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence. I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on. What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks. Good luck brother knifer. the problem is without a scanner i cant see what is around me. im alrady getting zero kills most games. and without my scanner i wont get even one. ive manged 3 kills in the last few games ive played today. man this is hard work. Running the Gal scout, you have an advantage with scanning range. Think about where you want to stick scanning range and precision skills in your future SP spending. Word is that if you get them skilled up enough as a Gal, you are like a walking scanner. Esp if you end up adding a range increasing module. Scouts don't let scouts accept more nerfs. Just say no to needless scout suit sacrifice.

hidden noob Algintal Core Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2014.01.16 18:57:00 - [41] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: hidden noob wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I would also advise not to use an active scanner. When you scan someone, it alerts them to your presence. I used to use one when hacking, mainly to avoid areas with multiple reds I could not take on. What I would recommend is skilling into REs for your equipment slot. Even just one level does wonders. The are tons of fun, and once you get used to them you can take down tanks. Good luck brother knifer. the problem is without a scanner i cant see what is around me. im alrady getting zero kills most games. and without my scanner i wont get even one. ive manged 3 kills in the last few games ive played today. man this is hard work. Running the Gal scout, you have an advantage with scanning range. Think about where you want to stick scanning range and precision skills in your future SP spending. Word is that if you get them skilled up enough as a Gal, you are like a walking scanner. Esp if you end up adding a range increasing module. yeaps but till then i need all the help i can get from mods. this really is hard lol. though i did just manage to kill a sniper in that red hash area. stabbed him right in the face. made all 9 deaths worth it.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1127	Posted - 2014.01.16 19:10:00 - [42] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Running the Gal scout, you have an advantage with scanning range. Think about where you want to stick scanning range and precision skills in your future SP spending. Word is that if you get them skilled up enough as a Gal, you are like a walking scanner. Esp if you end up adding a range increasing module. your scan range is double that of a heavy or medium frame at level 2 gallente scout (19.5m). this means that in tight areas like building you can see their red arrow through walls and often the roof while they can't see yours. just something to think about... how scanning works every dropsuit has a profile, precision, and range. the profile is how easy it is to pick up on scanners the precision is how accurate the built in scanner in you dropsuit is the range is how far your dropsuit's built in scanner reaches if your precision is lower than the enemy dropsuits profile and they are in range, the enemy will show up on your mini map and a red arrow will be above their head. if your profile is lower than the enemy's precision, you will not show up on their mini map. as a scout you want: a low profile, below 36db will beat ADV active scanners (the most common active scanners) a low precision (your default is the lowest precision of any suit, don't put much if any SP into it) a high range, see them before they see you "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout. CLOSED BETA VET
Scout Registry 570	Posted - 2014.01.16 19:41:00 - [43] - Quote In your shoes, I would take up Bojo on his offer. Same wirth Demon Buddah, if you're looking for knifing / sneaking tips. Also, find Cyrius Li-Moody on YouTube. His tutorials on Scouting are the best around. scouts say no to quid pro quo
pseudosnipre 537	Posted - 2014.01.16 19:45:00 - [44] - Quote Scouts United ^ This channel is full of helpful, talented players...and Partick57. =p Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Qn1f3 Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2014.01.16 20:23:00 - [45] - Quote Besides the excellent tips already given, I'd say situational awareness is the key to being a good Scout. Get into their heads, you can perform really well even with low SP amounts, get familiar with mechanics, observe then act. As many of the high profile Scouts mention in this thread, go for reducing your profile to be able to be unseen. I'll be happy to show you the ropes when I'm online and also donate a little ISK, to help you on your way. Lastly, accept the offer from Bojo and welcome to the Scout community!
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 2732	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:34:00 - [46] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm still not entirely sure why it was taken down, aside from the name. Following the original plan. Art became CEO because he did not want me to down shift BSOTT into a pet side project. But now I have convinced Art to unshackle it and now it is back in my hands and going to operate on extreme focal methods. Check out latest BSOTT Guide
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 154	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:43:00 - [47] - Quote Good rule of thumb is that you will as a scout beat a scanner of the same level as your dampener and scout skill. Ie a Basic scout and dampener will beat a basic scanner Adv scout (skill level not suit) and adv dampener will beat a basic scanner Don't over rely on scanners. Scouts can use them to figure out you are nearby and that you can't see them. So as a scout you might think you are safe but a fellow scout is waiting for you. So situational awareness is a good thing to learn. Play with a MLT shotgun and you will learn how sneaky scouts can be. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
hidden noob Algintal Core Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:46:00 - [48] - Quote Tch Tch wrote: Good rule of thumb is that you will as a scout beat a scanner of the same level as your dampener and scout skill. Ie a Basic scout and dampener will beat a basic scanner Adv scout (skill level not suit) and adv dampener will beat a basic scanner Don't over rely on scanners. Scouts can use them to figure out you are nearby and that you can't see them. So as a scout you might think you are safe but a fellow scout is waiting for you. So situational awareness is a good thing to learn. Play with a MLT shotgun and you will learn how sneaky scouts can be. oh cool i hadnt relised there was a miltia shotgun. praise be i can use one without weapon 4. buh bye rail rifle =)


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