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The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:12:00 -
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I am tired of seeing heavies carrying light weapons. I am not talking about the Commando. I think heavies should only be allow to carry heavy weapons otherwise what is their purpose in the game? That would make things more balanced. |
Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:18:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I am tired of seeing heavies carrying light weapons. I am not talking about the Commando. I think heavies should only be allow to carry heavy weapons otherwise what is their purpose in the game? That would make things more balanced.
You might have a case if heavies had more than 1 anti-vehicle and 1 anti-personnel weapon. Until then, I find your argument moot. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:22:00 -
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Dustbunny Durrr wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I am tired of seeing heavies carrying light weapons. I am not talking about the Commando. I think heavies should only be allow to carry heavy weapons otherwise what is their purpose in the game? That would make things more balanced. You might have a case if heavies had more than 1 anti-vehicle and 1 anti-personnel weapon. Until then, I find your argument moot.
I think I have a good argument. They can carry any HEAVY weapon or side arm they want, but should not be allow to carry light weapons.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Peace. |
CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
579
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:33:00 -
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let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?. |
Maciej Szambelan
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:41:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?.
Hahaha... Yeah, there is nothing worse then heavy with RR, it's silly.. I agree, heavy shouldn't be able to use light weapons, can assaults or logics use heavy weapon?? |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:43:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?.
I see that all the time |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:43:00 -
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Maciej Szambelan wrote:CLONE117 wrote:let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?. Hahaha... Yeah, there is nothing worse then heavy with RR, it's silly.. I agree, heavy shouldn't be able to use light weapons, can assaults or logics use heavy weapon??
exactly!!
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Slen Kaleth
BlackWater Liquidations
INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:30:00 -
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Funny I was actually thinking it would be neat to make all non side arms light weapons, double the CPU/PG for former Hvy Weapons and give Heavies a 50% reduction to them. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:33:00 -
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dear heavies i know your leg is broke and your unable to do many things so ive decide your not allowed to use your crutch, you must go use the ones that dont work correctly or efficently
Proud Christian
one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
375
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:35:00 -
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and for the record the reason meds and lights cant use heavy weapons is because their well too heavy so why can a heavy use a light
Proud Christian
one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
1069
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:47:00 -
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Why?
If Heavy Dropsuits are using Light Weapons over Heavy Weapons, it's not the Heavy Dropsuit's fault, it's the Heavy Weapon's fault! Buff the Heavy Weapons, don't nerf the Heavy Dropsuit.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage is more lethal.
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 02:52:00 -
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I have a special button technique that I use to turn CRs into full autos which lets me kill heavies super quick with light weapons and HMGs in CQC, however outside of brick tanked Gallogis, they are the top suit I hate running into in buildings: a fatsuit using a Duvolle or RR. Some of them take a ton to take down, unless you can sneak in some headshots. Even Core grenades can't get rid of them fast enough lol
Necrophillia: That Uncontrollable Urge To Crack Open A Cold One.
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Odigos Ellinas
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:09:00 -
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This is a skill tree based game and not a char lvl based game. You can do the same thing like the others ! Don't hate them for doing something smarter then u r doing. |
Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:20:00 -
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The whole concept of heavies is that they shouldn't want to equip anything but heavy weapons. Unfortunately we're limited on options right now, but we will likely have longer-range heavy weapons in the future. If heavy suits with rail rifles are a real problem (and not just a problem for you), then we might need to take a look at how the heavy is designed.
This, like many other problems, isn't one that should be solved by disallowing people from doing one thing, but by incentivizing them to do something else.
The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:37:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I am tired of seeing heavies carrying light weapons. I am not talking about the Commando. I think heavies should only be allow to carry heavy weapons otherwise what is their purpose in the game? That would make things more balanced.
or just make it so that heavy weapons are actually better than light weapons
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:37:00 -
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Assaults should also be prevented from putting sidearms in their light weapon slot.
And proto gear should only take proto modules.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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maeth-01 2501
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:53:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:I am tired of seeing heavies carrying light weapons. I am not talking about the Commando. I think heavies should only be allow to carry heavy weapons otherwise what is their purpose in the game? That would make things more balanced.
A heavy should be able to carry anything...... He is built to carry heavy weapons, so what is to stop him carrying lighter ones...NOTHING
Leave them alone!!!!
You have just been spanked by some of them tonight I reckon that's why your bitching I bet.... that's how I usually feel on them nights...
Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone
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maeth-01 2501
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:55:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Assaults should also be prevented from putting sidearms in their light weapon slot.
And proto gear should only take proto modules.
suits would cost to much for some people and you would have to spend millions of SP to use a proto suit to its potential
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.01.14 04:17:00 -
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Yeah it would make so much sence that a suit that can carry weapons as big as drop suits wouldn't be able to even hold a small rifle that weighs next to nothing compared to heavy weapons. -1000000
I live and die by The Logi Code
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.01.14 05:52:00 -
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maeth-01 2501 wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Assaults should also be prevented from putting sidearms in their light weapon slot.
And proto gear should only take proto modules. suits would cost to much for some people and you would have to spend millions of SP to use a proto suit to its potential
You are correct. I was reducing the argument to absurdity to highlight its ridiculousness.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 07:17:00 -
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The maker o this thread might be a troll. Or he just feels like heavies with light weapons are OP from experience.
Either way, this is a sandbox game. I don't know why CCP decided heavy weapons can only be used by heavy frames, but its probably an intended feature by CCP for heavies to have the ability to use light weapons.
A basic scanner and flanking usually kills heavies. Or, if you think you cant flank them, you avoid the areas where the heavies are because frontal assaults on heavies are usually a death sentence. Unless you use a heavy weapon yourself.
When you cant flank heavies, then you might realize that usually only happens in tight confined areas. A place ideal for a militia heavy with a HMG. (chuck your militia locus grenades at the area first). Its what I do to counter heavies with light weapons in confined areas. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.01.14 08:14:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:and for the record the reason meds and lights cant use heavy weapons is because their well too heavy so why can a heavy use a light
And of course this statement bears no irony whatsoever.
Learn to logic before you try to invoke it. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
494
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Posted - 2014.01.14 08:40:00 -
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Maciej Szambelan wrote:CLONE117 wrote:let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?. Hahaha... Yeah, there is nothing worse then heavy with RR, it's silly.. I agree, heavy shouldn't be able to use light weapons, can assaults or logics use heavy weapon??
Thats like telling a weightlifter that he cant buy less than 100lbs of grocerys.
Here is the thing a light or medium suit is too WEAK to lift a heavy weapon. The heavy suits are made with stronger hydrolics or servos to lift heavy weapons. The idea that something able to lift a heavy weapon can't lift a light weapon is rather obsurd. Like a weightlifter not being able to carry 1 pound of bananas but being able to carry 100lbs of bananas.
How about this a scout can carry a HMG but you get to take a movement penalty that reduces you to 1/4 of your speed and heavies can carry a light weapon and have the base movement speed of a medium frame. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
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Posted - 2014.01.14 14:48:00 -
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Everything in this game game has a purpose and that is what makes things balanced. The purpose of the heavy is to carry heavy weapons. Heavies with rifles do not bother me that much, but heavies with sniper riffles is just rediculous! (In my opinio of course!)
I am not trolling. I am expressing my opinion. Not everyone has to agree. |
CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation
ACME Holding Conglomerate
583
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Posted - 2014.01.14 15:47:00 -
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the power of the hmg is not to be trifled with.
and has any1else noticed how easy it is to get headshot kills with the thing? |
Meeko Fent
State Patriots
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Posted - 2014.01.14 19:06:00 -
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Maciej Szambelan wrote:CLONE117 wrote:let me guess.. come across to many heavies using rail rifles rifles and combat rifles today?. Hahaha... Yeah, there is nothing worse then heavy with RR, it's silly.. I agree, heavy shouldn't be able to use light weapons, can assaults or logics use heavy weapon??
Do assaults and Logi's have only 2 weapons, with no equip, and move like a drunk snail?
The Heavies have either a choice from a mega sniper, or a Bad CQC suppressor (which barely does that)
And, its the idea of choice. Imagine, if somebody skilled heavy, and didn't like it?
Just use Militia until you have a decent level in your preferred suit?
Seriously.
DUST is a half decent game.
Be happy its free.
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:33:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:I have a special button technique that I use to turn CRs into full autos which lets me kill heavies super quick with light weapons and HMGs in CQC, however outside of brick tanked Gallogis, they are the top suit I hate running into in buildings: a fatsuit using a Duvolle or RR. Some of them take a ton to take down, unless you can sneak in some headshots. Even Core grenades can't get rid of them fast enough lol
There's the (different) problem. Why should anyone be using a longer distance AR in CQC? RRs should have a much weaker hip-fire and higher kick, making them less appealing in confined space. CCP needs to fix the real problem.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8064
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:34:00 -
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Going to just copy/paste this here.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:People are still whining about it? GET OVER IT
Light weapon slots can support sidearm slots, therefore it makes sense for that heavy weapon slots should be able to hold light weapon slots. "Bigger" slots can take in smaller weapons.
The heavy suit itself is balanced by low sprint, low strafe, low stamina, no equipment slots, low scanning abilities, huge signature profile, and huge hitbox to counter the HP they have over medium frames; therefore, I don't see why they should only be limited to heavy weapons. You guys seriously want to limit heavy suits to 2 weapons?!
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:38:00 -
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I don't think I've encountered too many of these guys, as they aren't really memorable in my head and since the update to the HMG, I find I'm getting properly owned by them, so I don't know what Heavies you may be encountering.
The thing that is getting my undies in a twist lately are actually the heavies that drive themselves around and try to run you over and when they are unsuccessful, they jump out and start shooting, but if they take even a little damage, they hop back in and run away to hide. I can't even hate them for it, its smart play. Makes me wish I could drive/pilot anything in the game with any grace at all.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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