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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
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      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:15:00 -
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 And here's why:
 I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 The Phoenix Federation
 
 370
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:18:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 My assault forge cant kill a unhardened tank, wtf
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 352
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:18:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 
 so what i soloed a proto gallante logi with starter fit. He was just awful with the OP suit and this dude musta been awful with his OP tank.
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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 221
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:19:00 -
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 jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 My assault forge cant kill a unhardened tank, wtf 
 What are your skills and suits like?
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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        |  GET ATMESON
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Renegade Alliance
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:27:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 
 Picture please or vids?
 
 Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó | 
      
      
        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 221
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:29:00 -
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 GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 Picture please or vids? 
 Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said!
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  Jastad
 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 411
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:32:00 -
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 Hell, yesterday I took down and Ass.Dropship with two Flux and the HMG.
 A Sica the match after that.
 
 HMG for AV \o/
 
 Nerf HMG av ability and BUFF Tank.
 
 Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back... | 
      
      
        |  Thumb Green
 Titans of Phoenix
 Legacy Rising
 
 663
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:32:00 -
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 I'll believe it when I see it and even then at most that's just proof that even OP stuff can't help complete idiots.
 
 CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it. | 
      
      
        |  CLONE117
 planetary retaliation organisation
 ACME Holding Conglomerate
 
 579
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:33:00 -
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 props to u.
 
 ive really only been able to solo mlt vehicles.
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        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
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      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:38:00 -
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 $#!t tanker is $#!t.
 
 Also, vids or it didn't happen.
 
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  Knight Soiaire
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 4453
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:40:00 -
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 I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all.
 
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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:40:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
 Also, vids or it didn't happen.
 
 Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 3426
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:42:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said! Paying AUR for a MLT forge?
 
 Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!"
 
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:42:00 -
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 Knight Soiaire wrote:I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all. 
 Praise the Sun!
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  Knight Soiaire
 BurgezzE.T.F
 
 4453
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:43:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Paying AUR for a MLT forge?
 
 Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!"
 
 He never said he spent his Aurum on MLT Forges, just that he spent his money on Aurum.
 
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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:44:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said! Paying AUR for a MLT forge? Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!" 
 ??? When did I say that I spent money of a militia forge? I stated that my reason for not having a recorder is that I spent my money on Aurum. No, the militia forge came with the Mauler suit I got from the event. Try again, Ati.
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 3426
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:44:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
 Also, vids or it didn't happen.
 Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P No, because any Tom, ****, and Harry can easily pay someone to lie about something.
 
 Because of this, Vids or it Didn't happen.
 
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 3426
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:46:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:??? When did I say that I spent money of a militia forge? I stated that my reason for not having a recorder is that I spent my money on Aurum. No, the militia forge came with the Mauler suit I got from the event. Try again, Ati.
 My fault, I misread that one :/
 
 But I will "Try again"
  
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 21:47:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
 Also, vids or it didn't happen.
 Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P No, because any Tom, ****, and Harry can easily pay someone to lie about something. Because of this, Vids or it Didn't happen. 
 Believe what you will, as you may. It matters little to me. lol I appreciate that you encourage people to be reasonably skeptical though,
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor | 
      
      
        |  8213
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1321
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 22:07:00 -
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 Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
 
 Because that's what this is equivilent to.
 
 You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
 
 How about next time you tell the whole truth?
 
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        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 3430
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 22:11:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Believe what you will, as you may. It matters little to me. lol I appreciate that you encourage people to be reasonably skeptical though,
 Well, I hope you enjoy the credibility of Fox News then.
 
 If I said that a Soma with no hardeners survived 12 Volleys of my Swarm Launcher? Would you believe me?
 
 As for the OP, I think this guy pretty much covered it in Tankahiro's last thread
 
 
 Goric Rumis wrote:This is going to be my one and only post in response to the least productive but most vocal person in the vehicle/AV debate:
 Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced.
 
 1. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. I know a dropship pilot who six months ago was able to stay in the air a whole game, move troops around, get kills, and never get shot out of the sky--and I saw him do it in Planetary Conquest, Factional Warfare, and pub matches. Does that mean dropships were balanced and pilots just needed to HTFU and adapt? I don't believe that, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim that.
 
 2. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. Balance in a role-based game is predicated on the idea that a role that is strong in one way is weak in another. Therefore the question is not whether AV are capable of destroying tanks, it's a question of what they have to give up to do it, and whether they're being proportionately compensated for their weaknesses in their area of strength. Right now, people are using militia tanks and suicide LAVs because they're able to accomplish the job better without making sacrifices. Just because they could do the job with forge guns and swarm launchers doesn't mean it's the best way to get it done--and if you can get better results without sacrificing flexibility, why wouldn't you?
 
 3. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. I want to emphasize this point because you seem to be under the delusion that what is possible must be balanced. Tankers didn't believe this in 1.6, despite many of them going multiple matches without being destroyed. There are scouts who run around in ninja fits with nova knives--they get kills, therefore they are balanced? I regularly go positive on my skill-less alt with starter fits, so obviously a starter fit is just as good as a proto. There's not a problem with the matchmaking system, people just need to learn to adapt.
 
 4. And finally: Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should. You talk about teamwork, but what you really mean is buddy-work. If I'm working on a team, and not just out to kill vehicles, I likely have a more important responsibility than chasing down tanks the whole game. Because while I'm off chasing one tank, me and my buddy are leaving the rest of the team defenseless against any other vehicle that decides to sidle up and give them hell. That's not teamwork, that's selfishness.
 
 These are the reasons why your anecdotes and continuing posts are irrelevant. You're setting out to prove a limited point, with limited applicability, and pretending as though the results prove some universal truth.
 
 But of course I'm doing this for the benefit of the people reading your threads, not for you yourself. You've already made up your mind, and wouldn't change it if I presented you with a thousand pages of hard, incontrovertible evidence. So to all of you who have any sense, I leave you this TL;DR:
 
 Don't feed the troll. If you don't respond to his posts, they will just disappear into the archive. Let them.
 [/thread]
 
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 222
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 22:21:00 -
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 8213 wrote:Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
 Because that's what this is equivilent to.
 
 You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
 
 How about next time you tell the whole truth?
 
 I'm not bragging, I'm making a point. I told you as much truth as I can pal. Good grief, you forum guys are just antsy as ****. I make a simple claim and get attacked. lol Chill out and take it easy.
 
 I mention that people should know how to fit their tanks because I am reasonably sure that he had no reps on his tank. I took it down to half armor, then he ran away. I found him again, full shields, still half armor. Hit him once to take the shields down, twice to finish his hardened armor.
 
 And seriously, cut the holy-than-thou bullshit. "How about next time you tell the whole truth?" Really?
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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        |  icdedppul
 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
 
 19
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 22:47:00 -
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 idiots in tanks are not hard to kill... its like walking up behind a sniper
 
 I soloed the same idiot in a Madrugar 4x in 1 match.
 
 idiot kept rolling up and then parking so he could aim with his blaster turret and either doesnt have his sound turned up or else doesnt recognize a RE arming
 
 just cause you can kill scrubs doesnt mean what they are using isnt OP
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        |  Scar Scrilla
 Cobra Kommando
 
 25
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.13 23:29:00 -
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 Maybe he just gave it the final shot. I wouldn't call that "soloing" though....
 
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        |  Jax Saurian
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 151
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 00:32:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all. Praise the Sun! 
 must... resist...
 ...
 ...
 PRAISE THE SUN
 
 "and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts Closed Beta Vet | 
      
      
        |  Charlotte O'Dell
 Fatal Absolution
 Covert Intervention
 
 1631
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 01:35:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing 
 I call bullsh8t.
 
 There is no way that every single blueberry is suddenly able to go 25:0 in a tank.
 
 The people who know how to pilot are very few in number and i can name all of them. You are not a tanker because every real tanker could take a nerf and still kill everything in sight- anyone defending OP tanks could not.
 
 If you dare defend your claims, please ring for someone on the opposite team of me in PC and I will show you what a real tanker does.
 
 
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        |  GET ATMESON
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Renegade Alliance
 
 223
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 03:31:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said! 
 That was great. Man this propaganda. DARN YOU FANCY LADY VOICE!!
 
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        |  Pvt Numnutz
 Black Phoenix Mercenaries
 Legacy Rising
 
 653
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 03:46:00 -
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 That must have been the worst fit tank in the game, good job. I assure you that my milita fit sica would eat you for breakfast. Its sad, and very out of balance. I can destroy in tanks without even specing into them. Also its very effective for how cheap it is.
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        |  pyramidhead 420
 Carbon 7
 CRONOS.
 
 284
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 03:49:00 -
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 Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing I call bullsh8t. There is no way that every single blueberry is suddenly able to go 25:0 in a tank. The people who know how to pilot are very few in number and i can name all of them. You are not a tanker because every real tanker could take a nerf and still kill everything in sight- anyone defending OP tanks could not. If you dare defend your claims, please ring for someone on the opposite team of me in PC and I will show you what a real tanker does. got a real bad A$$ here. meet me in PC and ill pull out my 5k hp dropsuit on wheels...really, that scrubby huh?
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        |  Marad''er
 Ancient Exiles.
 Renegade Alliance
 
 271
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 03:53:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:8213 wrote:Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
 Because that's what this is equivilent to.
 
 You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
 
 How about next time you tell the whole truth?
 I'm not bragging, I'm making a point. I told you as much truth as I can pal. Good grief, you forum guys are just antsy as ****. I make a simple claim and get attacked. lol Chill out and take it easy. I mention that people should know how to fit their tanks because I am reasonably sure that he had no reps on his tank. I took it down to half armor, then he ran away. I found him again, full shields, still half armor. Hit him once to take the shields down, twice to finish his hardened armor. And seriously, cut the holy-than-thou bullshit. "How about next time you tell the whole truth?" Really? So you killed a r3tard who doesn't know how to fit a tank.
 
 That's like killing a proto player that uses a plasma cannon and no other mods on his suit..
 
 Not sure how you can justify that as tanks themselves being balanced...
 
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        |  Ripcord19981
 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
 Legacy Rising
 
 329
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 04:27:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 now, imagine doing that with six competent madrugers aiming at you with a dropship shooting at u while the you've scanned sign is blinking.
 
 Good night sir
 
 i kno Tanks arent the problem. its the spam and hardner exploit that is annoying
 
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        |  Goric Rumis
 Dead Six Initiative
 Lokun Listamenn
 
 305
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 04:44:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 This is a great example of what we call "flawed logic." You are appealing to several fallacies, including the fallacy of composition and no true Scotsman. But the most important fallacy you're making is generalizing a universal conclusion out of a particular instance--or what is known as cherry picking. You have a vested interest in coming to a particular conclusion, and therefore you have found a specific instance to justify that conclusion.
 
 If, in fact, you did kill a hardened Madrugar, alone, with a militia forge (which I find exceedingly unlikely already unless you've left out some important details), it does not follow that "tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing" (emphasis added). At best, it proves that it is possible for a forge gun to destroy a tank, which I don't think is a point anyone disputes. It certainly doesn't constitute proof that there is no systemic problem, any more than an oppressive government allowing a token opposition newspaper to exist (so long as they get to review it before it goes out).
 
 In fairness to the original poster, you're hardly the only person around here who needs to read this stuff. It's a tiny fraction of arguments made on this forum that are well-reasoned.
 
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        |  Awesome Pantaloons
 Lokapalas.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.01.14 05:24:00 -
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 A few points:
 -First of all, I made a simple claim. A very simple instance that happened, whether anyone wants to believe it or not. I really don't give a flying floopity ****.
 -Secondly, my point still stands. Tanks are stupidly accessible and cheap, and powerful, but not OP unless fit half-decently. Inherently tanks are no OP than any other fitting or weapon. It's pretty damn simple guys. Tank SPAM is OP.
 -Thirdly, why exactly are half of you hellbent on attacking me for this? Charlotte, sweety, it's cute that you think you know every good tanker in the game, but I guarantee that there are at least three that you don't know about. I know my way around tanks, and I know tankers. At any rate, feel free to give some criticism or some opinions on the matter, but we don't have to get personal. Are these forums a way of venting for some of you guys? If we're getting personal, I think you need to get out more. Have a drink, get laid, whatever.
 -Fourth, if no one has figured it out by now most of my posts are for pure entertainment. The dust community amuses me. The elitists most of all. Well done on another very bemusing thread.
 
 (Seriously though, some of you really need to chill out. It's a game. You're allowed to disagree with me, but you bros are taking this is a bit too seriously. Just saying.)
 
 "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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        |  Blood Spades
 Lokapalas.
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 06:55:00 -
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 I have just learned to except the fact that people here get all emotional over something stupid. Jumping to an argument rather then "RESPECTIVELY" sharing their opinions on the matter. If they have a passion for this game thats fine. But don't get your panties in a ****ING knot when someone has their own opinion. Shutting off others opinions is just another way of being closed minded. Listening to someone who's closed minded is like having a caveman teach you how to speak. It's painful and amusing. To me anyway.
  And i wholeheartedly agree with Awesome. I believe every obstacle can be overcome. And if you can't get over a little pebble in the path? Don't play a game with obstacles you can't overcome. And to those who never quite? Your the ones who make the game rock! Keep up the fight guys. I enjoy every minute of it. 
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        |  Tech Ohm Eaven
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 1075
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 06:57:00 -
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 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. 
 Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  Borne Velvalor
 Endless Hatred
 
 2132
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 07:56:00 -
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 I solo'd a Madrugar with a hardener on with a MLT FG recently. It parallel parked in the city, so to speak, and couldn't escape doing a 100 point turn. I think he only had one repper and ammo with 0 in repair.
 
 You don't need to be good, you just need to not suck. There is a huge difference, there.
 
 Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda. | 
      
      
        |  Necandi Brasil
 DUST BRASIL S.A
 Covert Intervention
 
 688
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 08:17:00 -
          [37] - Quote 
 OP,
 your post smells tanker not wanting a nerf....
 Really... never heard so much BS ...
 
 Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestructible and you see tankers telling it's balanced...
Just makes you want to quit this BS | 
      
      
        |  Blood Spades
 Lokapalas.
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 09:23:00 -
          [38] - Quote 
 Such negativity. If you actually ran with him you'd know he's a heavy and i've got a corp to back that up. He's not souly a tanker you know. Although he does know how to fit a tank. And it's kinda like me calling you a tanker even though you don't normally tank. But, like i said before. There's really no sense in talking with someone who has only one opinion, theirs.
 
 And i know you've tanked before. We've all done it.
 
 Donuts. | 
      
      
        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 779
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 13:32:00 -
          [39] - Quote 
 
 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 
 Sounds like someone's alt, but please enlighten us.... Tell us how we can fit that in our light/medium frames
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        |  Takahiro Kashuken
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 2214
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 13:47:00 -
          [40] - Quote 
 Its great OP
 
 Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it
 
 Intelligence is OP | 
      
      
        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 4334
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 13:52:00 -
          [41] - Quote 
 
 Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM? Since when did the OP say the Aurum was spent on the fitting used in this example?
 
 Also, AUR could be used to buy Militia BPOs while they were still on the market.
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        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 779
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 13:55:00 -
          [42] - Quote 
 
 Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Its great OP 
 Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it
 
 They also asked for SP to either :
 
 A - Spec into Proto Heavy with Proto Forge (Since Forge is the only way to go, Swarms and AV nades should stay in closet as per lolTanker logic)
 
 B - Spec into tanks and Rails
 
 C - Spec into Very good Remotes and Demand for Extra ISK for the honorable Jihad method
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        |  Atiim
 Living Like Larry Schwag
 
 3449
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 13:55:00 -
          [43] - Quote 
 
 Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Its great OP 
 Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it
 Brb
 
 Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink. | 
      
      
        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 783
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.14 17:56:00 -
          [44] - Quote 
 
 Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Its great OP 
 Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it
 Brb 
 damn at first i thought it would be an actual video. I think i'm happier with the results.
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        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 785
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.15 14:11:00 -
          [45] - Quote 
 Bump
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        |  Borne Velvalor
 Endless Hatred
 
 2144
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.15 17:26:00 -
          [46] - Quote 
 
 Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Its great OP 
 Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it
 I think it has something to do with the fact that it is literally impossible to solo a well fit hardened Madrugar with a MLT Forge Gun due to the reps repairing 100% of the damage between shots.
 
 
 
 Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda. | 
      
      
        |  Fox Gaden
 Immortal Guides
 
 2177
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.15 17:34:00 -
          [47] - Quote 
 
 Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why:I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
 
 Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
 Put me in any tank and you could probably kill me with a Militia Forge gun, but that would not be saying much now would it?
 
 Incompetence is not a valid basis for balance discussions.
 
 Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014 | 
      
      
        |  Tech Ohm Eaven
 L.O.T.I.S.
 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
 
 1079
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.01.15 23:09:00 -
          [48] - Quote 
 
 Garrett Blacknova wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM? Since when did the OP say the Aurum was spent on the fitting used in this example? Also, AUR could be used to buy Militia BPOs while they were still on the market. 
 Pauses Dragons Dogma.
 
 The point is there is no way to solo a well fit Madrugar with hardners by trying to kill it with a MILITIA forgegun.
 
 Dust 514 is unbalanced.
 Remember when they had free militia vehicles and we talked about that the militia vehicle spam had to be fixed?
 
 Well CCP goofed again DESPITE prior data from older builds that showed that militia vehicle spam was bad for the game.
 
 So tired of this............
 
 Waits till April when they may have PS4 in stock at a few stores.
 
 Goes back to playing Dragons Dogma.
 
 Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4. | 
      
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