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Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 329	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:27:00 - [31] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. now, imagine doing that with six competent madrugers aiming at you with a dropship shooting at u while the you've scanned sign is blinking. Good night sir i kno Tanks arent the problem. its the spam and hardner exploit that is annoying I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 305	Posted - 2014.01.14 04:44:00 - [32] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. This is a great example of what we call "flawed logic." You are appealing to several fallacies, including the fallacy of composition and no true Scotsman. But the most important fallacy you're making is generalizing a universal conclusion out of a particular instance--or what is known as cherry picking. You have a vested interest in coming to a particular conclusion, and therefore you have found a specific instance to justify that conclusion. If, in fact, you did kill a hardened Madrugar, alone, with a militia forge (which I find exceedingly unlikely already unless you've left out some important details), it does not follow that "tanks are *only* good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing" (emphasis added). At best, it proves that it is possible for a forge gun to destroy a tank, which I don't think is a point anyone disputes. It certainly doesn't constitute proof that there is no systemic problem, any more than an oppressive government allowing a token opposition newspaper to exist (so long as they get to review it before it goes out). In fairness to the original poster, you're hardly the only person around here who needs to read this stuff. It's a tiny fraction of arguments made on this forum that are well-reasoned. The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 224	Posted - 2014.01.14 05:24:00 - [33] - Quote A few points: -First of all, I made a simple claim. A very simple instance that happened, whether anyone wants to believe it or not. I really don't give a flying floopity ****. -Secondly, my point still stands. Tanks are stupidly accessible and cheap, and powerful, but not OP unless fit half-decently. Inherently tanks are no OP than any other fitting or weapon. It's pretty damn simple guys. Tank SPAM is OP. -Thirdly, why exactly are half of you hellbent on attacking me for this? Charlotte, sweety, it's cute that you think you know every good tanker in the game, but I guarantee that there are at least three that you don't know about. I know my way around tanks, and I know tankers. At any rate, feel free to give some criticism or some opinions on the matter, but we don't have to get personal. Are these forums a way of venting for some of you guys? If we're getting personal, I think you need to get out more. Have a drink, get laid, whatever. -Fourth, if no one has figured it out by now most of my posts are for pure entertainment. The dust community amuses me. The elitists most of all. Well done on another very bemusing thread. (Seriously though, some of you really need to chill out. It's a game. You're allowed to disagree with me, but you bros are taking this is a bit too seriously. Just saying.) "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Blood Spades Lokapalas. 3	Posted - 2014.01.14 06:55:00 - [34] - Quote I have just learned to except the fact that people here get all emotional over something stupid. Jumping to an argument rather then "RESPECTIVELY" sharing their opinions on the matter. If they have a passion for this game thats fine. But don't get your panties in a ****ING knot when someone has their own opinion. Shutting off others opinions is just another way of being closed minded. Listening to someone who's closed minded is like having a caveman teach you how to speak. It's painful and amusing. To me anyway. And i wholeheartedly agree with Awesome. I believe every obstacle can be overcome. And if you can't get over a little pebble in the path? Don't play a game with obstacles you can't overcome. And to those who never quite? Your the ones who make the game rock! Keep up the fight guys. I enjoy every minute of it. Donuts.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1075	Posted - 2014.01.14 06:57:00 - [35] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2132	Posted - 2014.01.14 07:56:00 - [36] - Quote I solo'd a Madrugar with a hardener on with a MLT FG recently. It parallel parked in the city, so to speak, and couldn't escape doing a 100 point turn. I think he only had one repper and ammo with 0 in repair. You don't need to be good, you just need to not suck. There is a huge difference, there. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 688	Posted - 2014.01.14 08:17:00 - [37] - Quote OP, your post smells tanker not wanting a nerf.... Really... never heard so much BS ... Tanks 514! Cheap, fast, Indestructible and you see tankers telling it's balanced... Just makes you want to quit this BS
Blood Spades Lokapalas. 3	Posted - 2014.01.14 09:23:00 - [38] - Quote Such negativity. If you actually ran with him you'd know he's a heavy and i've got a corp to back that up. He's not souly a tanker you know. Although he does know how to fit a tank. And it's kinda like me calling you a tanker even though you don't normally tank. But, like i said before. There's really no sense in talking with someone who has only one opinion, theirs. And i know you've tanked before. We've all done it. Donuts.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 779	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:32:00 - [39] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Sounds like someone's alt, but please enlighten us.... Tell us how we can fit that in our light/medium frames
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2214	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:47:00 - [40] - Quote Its great OP Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it Intelligence is OP

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4334	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:52:00 - [41] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM? Since when did the OP say the Aurum was spent on the fitting used in this example? Also, AUR could be used to buy Militia BPOs while they were still on the market.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 779	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:55:00 - [42] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Its great OP Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it They also asked for SP to either : A - Spec into Proto Heavy with Proto Forge (Since Forge is the only way to go, Swarms and AV nades should stay in closet as per lolTanker logic) B - Spec into tanks and Rails C - Spec into Very good Remotes and Demand for Extra ISK for the honorable Jihad method
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3449	Posted - 2014.01.14 13:55:00 - [43] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Its great OP Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it Brb Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 783	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:56:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Its great OP Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it Brb damn at first i thought it would be an actual video. I think i'm happier with the results.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 785	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:11:00 - [45] - Quote Bump
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2144	Posted - 2014.01.15 17:26:00 - [46] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Its great OP Whenever you can do something that AV cant do they always ask for vids lol, i suppose its so they can watch how its done and try to copy it I think it has something to do with the fact that it is literally impossible to solo a well fit hardened Madrugar with a MLT Forge Gun due to the reps repairing 100% of the damage between shots. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2177	Posted - 2014.01.15 17:34:00 - [47] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Put me in any tank and you could probably kill me with a Militia Forge gun, but that would not be saying much now would it? Incompetence is not a valid basis for balance discussions. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1079	Posted - 2014.01.15 23:09:00 - [48] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: plz dont nerf my op Iwinz button. Since when does MILITIA purchases require AURUM? Since when did the OP say the Aurum was spent on the fitting used in this example? Also, AUR could be used to buy Militia BPOs while they were still on the market. Pauses Dragons Dogma. The point is there is no way to solo a well fit Madrugar with hardners by trying to kill it with a MILITIA forgegun. Dust 514 is unbalanced. Remember when they had free militia vehicles and we talked about that the militia vehicle spam had to be fixed? Well CCP goofed again DESPITE prior data from older builds that showed that militia vehicle spam was bad for the game. So tired of this............ Waits till April when they may have PS4 in stock at a few stores. Goes back to playing Dragons Dogma. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.


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