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Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:15:00 -
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And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
370
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:18:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. My assault forge cant kill a unhardened tank, wtf
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Sir Dukey
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
352
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:18:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
so what i soloed a proto gallante logi with starter fit. He was just awful with the OP suit and this dude musta been awful with his OP tank. |
Awesome Pantaloons
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
221
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:19:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. My assault forge cant kill a unhardened tank, wtf
What are your skills and suits like?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:27:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
Picture please or vids?
Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
221
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:29:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Picture please or vids?
Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said!
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
411
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:32:00 -
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Hell, yesterday I took down and Ass.Dropship with two Flux and the HMG. A Sica the match after that.
HMG for AV \o/
Nerf HMG av ability and BUFF Tank.
Once you try "HMG-FAT" you never get back...
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Thumb Green
Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
663
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:32:00 -
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I'll believe it when I see it and even then at most that's just proof that even OP stuff can't help complete idiots.
CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
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CLONE117
planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate
579
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:33:00 -
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props to u.
ive really only been able to solo mlt vehicles. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3423
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:38:00 -
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$#!t tanker is $#!t.
Also, vids or it didn't happen.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
4453
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:40:00 -
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I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:40:00 -
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Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
Also, vids or it didn't happen.
Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3426
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:42:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said! Paying AUR for a MLT forge?
Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!"
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:42:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all.
Praise the Sun!
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Knight Soiaire
BurgezzE.T.F
4453
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Paying AUR for a MLT forge?
Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!"
He never said he spent his Aurum on MLT Forges, just that he spent his money on Aurum.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said! Paying AUR for a MLT forge? Bull$#!t meter just went from "suspicious" to "ALERT! ALERT!"
??? When did I say that I spent money of a militia forge? I stated that my reason for not having a recorder is that I spent my money on Aurum. No, the militia forge came with the Mauler suit I got from the event. Try again, Ati.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3426
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:44:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
Also, vids or it didn't happen. Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P No, because any Tom, ****, and Harry can easily pay someone to lie about something.
Because of this, Vids or it Didn't happen.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3426
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:46:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote: ??? When did I say that I spent money of a militia forge? I stated that my reason for not having a recorder is that I spent my money on Aurum. No, the militia forge came with the Mauler suit I got from the event. Try again, Ati.
My fault, I misread that one :/
But I will "Try again"
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Atiim wrote:$#!t tanker is $#!t.
Also, vids or it didn't happen. Would you like the name of the tanker? He sent me hatemail afterwards, admitting that his fit was not good. You can ask him. :P No, because any Tom, ****, and Harry can easily pay someone to lie about something. Because of this, Vids or it Didn't happen.
Believe what you will, as you may. It matters little to me. lol I appreciate that you encourage people to be reasonably skeptical though,
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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8213
0uter.Heaven
1321
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:07:00 -
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Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
Because that's what this is equivilent to.
You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
How about next time you tell the whole truth?
Fish in a bucket!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3430
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:11:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Believe what you will, as you may. It matters little to me. lol I appreciate that you encourage people to be reasonably skeptical though,
Well, I hope you enjoy the credibility of Fox News then.
If I said that a Soma with no hardeners survived 12 Volleys of my Swarm Launcher? Would you believe me?
As for the OP, I think this guy pretty much covered it in Tankahiro's last thread
Goric Rumis wrote:This is going to be my one and only post in response to the least productive but most vocal person in the vehicle/AV debate:
Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced.
1. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. I know a dropship pilot who six months ago was able to stay in the air a whole game, move troops around, get kills, and never get shot out of the sky--and I saw him do it in Planetary Conquest, Factional Warfare, and pub matches. Does that mean dropships were balanced and pilots just needed to HTFU and adapt? I don't believe that, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim that.
2. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. Balance in a role-based game is predicated on the idea that a role that is strong in one way is weak in another. Therefore the question is not whether AV are capable of destroying tanks, it's a question of what they have to give up to do it, and whether they're being proportionately compensated for their weaknesses in their area of strength. Right now, people are using militia tanks and suicide LAVs because they're able to accomplish the job better without making sacrifices. Just because they could do the job with forge guns and swarm launchers doesn't mean it's the best way to get it done--and if you can get better results without sacrificing flexibility, why wouldn't you?
3. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's balanced. I want to emphasize this point because you seem to be under the delusion that what is possible must be balanced. Tankers didn't believe this in 1.6, despite many of them going multiple matches without being destroyed. There are scouts who run around in ninja fits with nova knives--they get kills, therefore they are balanced? I regularly go positive on my skill-less alt with starter fits, so obviously a starter fit is just as good as a proto. There's not a problem with the matchmaking system, people just need to learn to adapt.
4. And finally: Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should. You talk about teamwork, but what you really mean is buddy-work. If I'm working on a team, and not just out to kill vehicles, I likely have a more important responsibility than chasing down tanks the whole game. Because while I'm off chasing one tank, me and my buddy are leaving the rest of the team defenseless against any other vehicle that decides to sidle up and give them hell. That's not teamwork, that's selfishness.
These are the reasons why your anecdotes and continuing posts are irrelevant. You're setting out to prove a limited point, with limited applicability, and pretending as though the results prove some universal truth.
But of course I'm doing this for the benefit of the people reading your threads, not for you yourself. You've already made up your mind, and wouldn't change it if I presented you with a thousand pages of hard, incontrovertible evidence. So to all of you who have any sense, I leave you this TL;DR:
Don't feed the troll. If you don't respond to his posts, they will just disappear into the archive. Let them. [/thread]
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
222
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:21:00 -
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8213 wrote:Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
Because that's what this is equivilent to.
You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
How about next time you tell the whole truth?
I'm not bragging, I'm making a point. I told you as much truth as I can pal. Good grief, you forum guys are just antsy as ****. I make a simple claim and get attacked. lol Chill out and take it easy.
I mention that people should know how to fit their tanks because I am reasonably sure that he had no reps on his tank. I took it down to half armor, then he ran away. I found him again, full shields, still half armor. Hit him once to take the shields down, twice to finish his hardened armor.
And seriously, cut the holy-than-thou bullshit. "How about next time you tell the whole truth?" Really?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
19
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Posted - 2014.01.13 22:47:00 -
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idiots in tanks are not hard to kill... its like walking up behind a sniper
I soloed the same idiot in a Madrugar 4x in 1 match.
idiot kept rolling up and then parking so he could aim with his blaster turret and either doesnt have his sound turned up or else doesnt recognize a RE arming
just cause you can kill scrubs doesnt mean what they are using isnt OP |
Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
25
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Posted - 2014.01.13 23:29:00 -
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Maybe he just gave it the final shot. I wouldn't call that "soloing" though....
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Jax Saurian
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
151
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Posted - 2014.01.14 00:32:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I soloed an STB's player HAV with a Forge Gun, had hardeners active and all. Praise the Sun!
must... resist... ... ... PRAISE THE SUN
"and when they catch you, they will kill you... ...but first they must catch you" motto of the scouts
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1631
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Posted - 2014.01.14 01:35:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing
I call bullsh8t.
There is no way that every single blueberry is suddenly able to go 25:0 in a tank.
The people who know how to pilot are very few in number and i can name all of them. You are not a tanker because every real tanker could take a nerf and still kill everything in sight- anyone defending OP tanks could not.
If you dare defend your claims, please ring for someone on the opposite team of me in PC and I will show you what a real tanker does.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
223
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:31:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:And here's why: I soloed a hardened Madrugar with a militia forge
Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who know how to drive, how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. Picture please or vids? Wish I had a recorder. :/ Spent all of my money on Aurum. Low on time they said! Low on skill they said!
That was great. Man this propaganda. DARN YOU FANCY LADY VOICE!!
Open Beta Fed 16th 2013. Scout fix + Heavy suits + Heavy guns = soonGäó
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
653
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:46:00 -
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That must have been the worst fit tank in the game, good job. I assure you that my milita fit sica would eat you for breakfast. Its sad, and very out of balance. I can destroy in tanks without even specing into them. Also its very effective for how cheap it is. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
284
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:49:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Tanks are only good in the hands of those who know what the hell they are doing I call bullsh8t. There is no way that every single blueberry is suddenly able to go 25:0 in a tank. The people who know how to pilot are very few in number and i can name all of them. You are not a tanker because every real tanker could take a nerf and still kill everything in sight- anyone defending OP tanks could not. If you dare defend your claims, please ring for someone on the opposite team of me in PC and I will show you what a real tanker does. got a real bad A$$ here. meet me in PC and ill pull out my 5k hp dropsuit on wheels...really, that scrubby huh? |
Marad''er
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
271
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Posted - 2014.01.14 03:53:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:8213 wrote:Would you brag on the forums if you shot a Prototype player dead with a SMG? Especially if the prototype was spinning in circles shooting into the sky..
Because that's what this is equivilent to.
You shot a r*tard... good for you. I still call BS on the 'solo' part. Because that means you shot 7 shots and reloaded twice. Thats 4 seconds per shot and 3 seconds to reload. Meaning that tank sat there for 34 seconds... Can you tell me how long armor hardeners last? Plus basic armor rep at 100/sec(400 between each shot and 300 per reload)
How about next time you tell the whole truth? I'm not bragging, I'm making a point. I told you as much truth as I can pal. Good grief, you forum guys are just antsy as ****. I make a simple claim and get attacked. lol Chill out and take it easy. I mention that people should know how to fit their tanks because I am reasonably sure that he had no reps on his tank. I took it down to half armor, then he ran away. I found him again, full shields, still half armor. Hit him once to take the shields down, twice to finish his hardened armor. And seriously, cut the holy-than-thou bullshit. "How about next time you tell the whole truth?" Really? So you killed a r3tard who doesn't know how to fit a tank.
That's like killing a proto player that uses a plasma cannon and no other mods on his suit..
Not sure how you can justify that as tanks themselves being balanced...
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