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major parts
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:40:00 -
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action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9926
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:42:00 -
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You obviously haven't flown much if you think swarms don't already cause a good amount of impact.
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4439
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:42:00 -
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major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I think you'll find that most of us wouldn't oppose a speed increase, since as someone who uses an Afterburner-fit Python, Swarms are no threat whatsoever. I can tank anything below PRO, and if someone comes at me with those I just burn out till they run out of fuel, and then circle back and kill the guy using them.
DUST Fiend wrote:You obviously haven't flown much if you think swarms don't already cause a good amount of impact.
I think what he's actually trying to advocate for is an increase in flight speed.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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The Final Fantasy
DETHDEALERS
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:45:00 -
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major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I like the idea but a even a mlt swarm can drop a drop ship if u hit the nose hell I lost 6ds to nose hit its weird but the ship just flips upside down to the point of no return lol before 1.7 a good sniper shot to the nose made you lose your balance |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9926
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:47:00 -
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The Final Fantasy wrote:major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I like the idea but a even a mlt swarm can drop a drop ship if u hit the nose hell I lost 6ds to nose hit its weird but the ship just flips upside down to the point of no return lol before 1.7 a good sniper shot to the nose made you lose your balance
I do NOT miss when flaylock rockets could practically flip you upside down >_<
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Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4439
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Posted - 2014.01.12 16:48:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:The Final Fantasy wrote:major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I like the idea but a even a mlt swarm can drop a drop ship if u hit the nose hell I lost 6ds to nose hit its weird but the ship just flips upside down to the point of no return lol before 1.7 a good sniper shot to the nose made you lose your balance I do NOT miss when flaylock rockets could practically flip you upside down >_<
I wish this guy would post again to clarify whether he actually means more kinetic impact or more flight speed, because his post made it sound like he might be advocating for them to fly faster so you can't just outrun them.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9934
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:04:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Final Fantasy wrote:major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I like the idea but a even a mlt swarm can drop a drop ship if u hit the nose hell I lost 6ds to nose hit its weird but the ship just flips upside down to the point of no return lol before 1.7 a good sniper shot to the nose made you lose your balance I do NOT miss when flaylock rockets could practically flip you upside down >_< I wish this guy would post again to clarify whether he actually means more kinetic impact or more flight speed, because his post made it sound like he might be advocating for them to fly faster so you can't just outrun them.
I'm pretty sure he wants more knockback, which is crazy. More speed for swarms is something I've been asking for since 1.7. The damage itself honestly isn't that bad, maybe a little more on STD and ADV swarms, but the main issue is that swarms take too long to connect, and are primarily negated by afterburners.
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Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
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Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:04:00 -
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Without after burners or nitro they will hit. With them they wont. Kind of the whole point of speed boost imho. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9935
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:08:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:Without after burners or nitro they will hit. With them they wont. Kind of the whole point of speed boost imho.
The point of the speed boost is to get out of the hot zone quickly, not to entirely negate an AV weapon. Forges and rails can still hit you with your AB on, though it is much harder if you're a good pilot, but outrunning anti vehicle missiles is kind of silly.
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Closed Beta Vet; Dropship Pilot
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
375
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:12:00 -
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major parts wrote:right now, everything can outrun them
I once had a pack of swarms chase down my full speed LAV on a straight away. I was surprised too.
Amarr HAV Speculation
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major parts
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:46:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:The Final Fantasy wrote:major parts wrote:action movies thrill.
rockets normally are used to add 'impact' right?
so is it just me or would swarms would be great if they had a terminal velocity about 4 x more than they have now? i know ive posted something similar before but the more i think about it the more great i think it would be.
right now, everything can outrun them, the only thing it is good for is knocking mercs on the head.
CCP have probably already corrected AV imbalance for future release, but i bet this gets missed.
if dropship pilots complain, give them countermeasures?
I like the idea but a even a mlt swarm can drop a drop ship if u hit the nose hell I lost 6ds to nose hit its weird but the ship just flips upside down to the point of no return lol before 1.7 a good sniper shot to the nose made you lose your balance I do NOT miss when flaylock rockets could practically flip you upside down >_< I wish this guy would post again to clarify whether he actually means more kinetic impact or more flight speed, because his post made it sound like he might be advocating for them to fly faster so you can't just outrun them.
you guessed right first time. more speed for the impact. and normal physics, not disproportionate knockback or anything like that. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:52:00 -
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Maybe he means more of a visual knockback, camera shake, smoke and lighting effects.
As well as that, maybe he means more physical knockback on vehicals other than dropships.
When was the last time you saw a tank swerve when taking a volley to the side?  |
major parts
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:52:00 -
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so no-one thinks faster swarms are a bad idea?
i like the way they hang momentarily before accellerating, but should then whip up to just under supersonic.
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major parts
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.01.12 22:55:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Maybe he means more of a visual knockback, camera shake, smoke and lighting effects. As well as that, maybe he means more physical knockback on vehicals other than dropships. When was the last time you saw a tank swerve when taking a volley to the side?
that might be cool but i dont think we should ask too much from ccp, getting good basic mechanics would b good. the new ragdoll **** has made some good moments tho'!
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