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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:19:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Swarms need a buff, forge guns are basically perfectly balanced towards dropships right now, but it's a skill vs skill scenario. Plasma cannon is a joke.
Railguns need to have more elevation so we can finally solve the redline. The assault forge guns are still too strong stat wise and all assault varients do less damage, my python gets 2 shotted sometimes, and the breach fg is still overpowerec, lower charge time slight then reduce its ******* damage Or give dropships a resistancd to that bullshit
Are you drunk? A Troll?
Or a Drunk Troll?
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Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3482
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:21:00 -
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The base price of an ADS is far more expensive than the base price of an HAV.
HAV "spam" (seriously, htfu, I never see more than 3 on a team) isn't an issue. Hardeners yes, prices no.
We used to have a time machine
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
5494
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:21:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate. Ads are more expensive and fragile
Doesnt make it any better. So were tanks once upon a time long long ago...
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
Reference = ISK
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Swarms need a buff, forge guns are basically perfectly balanced towards dropships right now, but it's a skill vs skill scenario. Plasma cannon is a joke.
Railguns need to have more elevation so we can finally solve the redline. The assault forge guns are still too strong stat wise and all assault varients do less damage, my python gets 2 shotted sometimes, and the breach fg is still overpowerec, lower charge time slight then reduce its ******* damage Or give dropships a resistancd to that bullshit Are you drunk? A Troll? Or a Drunk Troll?
For dropships not the tanks you want removed
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate. Ads are more expensive and fragile Doesnt make it any better. So were tanks once upon a time long long ago...
If the ads wasnt as expensive it can stay the same bearing swarms
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9833
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate. Ads are more expensive and fragile Doesnt make it any better. So were tanks once upon a time long long ago...
I think I stomped your Python with my Incubus. Assuming it was you your team was redlining ours and you guys had a bunch of tanks and pythons and I was basically the only one who put up a fight, took out 4 ships and a couple tanks that match. Was fun. It was that new longer map with the cliffs going down on either side.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate. Ads are more expensive and fragile Doesnt make it any better. So were tanks once upon a time long long ago... I think I stomped your Python with my Incubus. Assuming it was you your team was redlining ours and you guys had a bunch of tanks and pythons and I was basically the only one who put up a fight, took out 4 ships and a couple tanks that match. Was fun.
Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much
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Xvos Reigns
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
26
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:29:00 -
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Anyone have a good ADS channel
Support Logistics
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9835
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:29:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much
Not sure what you mean.
I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000.
ADS price is beautiful right now.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1524
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:29:00 -
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Mlt Tank Spam is the only thing saving us from
Mlt Tanks
Std Tanks
ADS
DS
and anything else vehicle related that isn't LAV
Tanks 514
I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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LEHON Xeon
Pradox XVI
Proficiency V.
25
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:31:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:ADS are annoying yes but SKILLED FG'ers can pop them. ADS arent very scary once you hit them 2 times with a GF and they are running. Then all it takes is 1 shot to kill them as they fly away in a straight line.
I've dropped quite a few like that. Dropships aren't too tough compared to HAVs. I think dropships are fine the way they are. I've seen very skilled pilots do all kinds of stuff in matches with them.
If Walking Is So Good For You, Then Why Does My Mailman Look Like Jabba The Hut?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3255
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:31:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
For dropships not the tanks you want removed
Considering how a Python survived 3 shots from my Swarm Launcher (while in-hardened) I don't think they need any more resistance.
And no, I don't want tanks to be removed. Why do you think that I want your 'precious' tanks gone? Because I don't say "buff! buff! buff!" every time I talk about them?
Even from a personal standpoint, what benefit would I get from removing them? That would make my Swarm Launcher even more worthless than it already is.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:33:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much Not sure what you mean. I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000. ADS price is beautiful right now.
They need a price decrease still, no reason to be alot more expensive than a tank
Also std tank hull 175k because small difference until changes announced, I have to grind 2 matches for my railgun magne....I mean python
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:34:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate.
No, when I run AV I can usually get hits on a DS that will make it run away, those same hits on a tank just let's them know where I am so they can hunt me down and kill me. Really good DS pilots can probably go 25-0 in some games but so can a good, well, anything else. A mediocre DS pilot has enough trouble just not crashing or dying. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9835
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:34:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Mlt Tank Spam is the only thing saving us from
Mlt Tanks
Std Tanks
ADS
DS
and anything else vehicle related that isn't LAV
.....
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
465
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:34:00 -
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I think dropships being OP is fine. About time they got their hey-day. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:34:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
For dropships not the tanks you want removed
Considering how a Python survived 3 shots from my Swarm Launcher (while in-hardened) I don't think they need any more resistance. And no, I don't want tanks to be removed. Why do you think that I want your 'precious' tanks gone? Because I don't say "buff! buff! buff!" every time I talk about them? Even from a personal standpoint, what benefit would I get from removing them? That would make my Swarm Launcher even more worthless than it already is.
Your swams need a buff yes, but forges and rails are a bit too strong VERSUS DROPSHIPS ONLY
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9835
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much Not sure what you mean. I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000. ADS price is beautiful right now. They need a price decrease still, no reason to be alot more expensive than a tank Also std tank hull 175k because small difference until changes announced, I have to grind 2 matches for my railgun magne....I mean python
I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships.
Price is perfect.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:36:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:GET ATMESON wrote:ADS are annoying yes but SKILLED FG'ers can pop them. ADS arent very scary once you hit them 2 times with a GF and they are running. Then all it takes is 1 shot to kill them as they fly away in a straight line.
I've dropped quite a few like that. Dropships aren't too tough compared to HAVs. I think dropships are fine the way they are. I've seen very skilled pilots do all kinds of stuff in matches with them.
Keyword VERY SKILLED, forges are just a tiny bit too strong against dropships, and railguns?forget it
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3255
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:37:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:I think dropships being OP is fine. About time they got their hey-day.
Nope.
If that's the case, then my Scouts better be flying in 1.8, and my Minmatar Assault suit better be so good that even the Amarr loyalists will be snatching them off the shelves.
No special treatment towards balancing roles. That creates more problems than it solves.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
300
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much Not sure what you mean. I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000. ADS price is beautiful right now. They need a price decrease still, no reason to be alot more expensive than a tank Also std tank hull 175k because small difference until changes announced, I have to grind 2 matches for my railgun magne....I mean python I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships. Price is perfect.
No, its not, so did I, doesnt mean a dropship needs to be super expensive, just a hull should be 200k at least
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3261
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Your swams need a buff yes, but forges and rails are a bit too strong VERSUS DROPSHIPS ONLY
Oh, you were referring to Forge Guns & Railguns 
I haven't witnessed a Forge Gun vs Assault Dropship fight where I haven't assisted the Forge Gunner, so I can't really comment on FG vs ADS issues.
As for Railguns, I think it is common knowledge that the Railguns need a falloff damage system introduced to them
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3261
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships.
Price is perfect.
That's the base price of an Enforcer.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
301
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:
Your swams need a buff yes, but forges and rails are a bit too strong VERSUS DROPSHIPS ONLY
Oh, you were referring to Forge Guns & Railguns I haven't witnessed a Forge Gun vs Assault Dropship fight where I haven't assisted the Forge Gunner, so I can't really comment on FG vs ADS issues. As for Railguns, I think it is common knowledge that the Railguns need a falloff damage system introduced to them
An assault or breach forge gun desttoys pythons because power and no afterburner, you get 2 shotted by assaults sometimes and the breach? Well lets just say some of my armor is gone
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9837
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships.
Price is perfect.
That's the base price of an Enforcer.
Are you comparing enforcers to pre 1.7 dropships?
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
3807
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:43:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:Im a tanker by trade, every SP i have is in tanking, but every so often i like to mix it up by running a uplink MLT suit and get my hands dirty. I was in several matches today where very few tanks where called in and it was ADSs every where every time, using their OP splash missle launchers to rain down on us from perfect angels where cover isnt worth crap. And while there are some mainly indoor maps, there are plenty were the main opjective of domination or skimishes are completely open to arial attacks, and even roofs or places tanks cant fit arnt safe from ADS. Bad thing is unlike a tank, drop ships dont even have to worry about remots, and AV nades, esily out run swarms, and can dodge forge guns enough to ust kill their operators.
So yeah keep QQing over tanks, but when they are gone its not like you will be free from an even worse fate.
Shut the **** up.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9837
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:45:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much Not sure what you mean. I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000. ADS price is beautiful right now. They need a price decrease still, no reason to be alot more expensive than a tank Also std tank hull 175k because small difference until changes announced, I have to grind 2 matches for my railgun magne....I mean python I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships. Price is perfect. No, its not, so did I, doesnt mean a dropship needs to be super expensive, just a hull should be 200k at least
I pay a little over 500k for my dropship and I manage to stay mostly ISK positive while rolling around solo. I for one love the price, feels like it fits the utility and power that the assault dropship gives me.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3261
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Are you comparing enforcers to pre 1.7 dropships?
I'm having troubles figuring out which one was more over-priced.
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
301
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you think they need a price increase? 68k>322k is way to much Not sure what you mean. I think militia tanks should cost 125,000 ISK for the hull, standard tanks 200,000. ADS price is beautiful right now. They need a price decrease still, no reason to be alot more expensive than a tank Also std tank hull 175k because small difference until changes announced, I have to grind 2 matches for my railgun magne....I mean python I used to pay 1.2 million and some change for dropships. Price is perfect. No, its not, so did I, doesnt mean a dropship needs to be super expensive, just a hull should be 200k at least
I pay a little over 500k for my dropship and I manage to stay mostly ISK positive while rolling around solo. I for one love the price, feels like it fits the utility and power that the assault dropship gives me. [/quote]
I dont fell like grinding 2 matches for a non proto fit, 200k hull price and im fine, not too expensive not too cheap
Ps
Its hard to not die sometimes because every game has railguns, I havent flow in 2 weeks
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
301
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Are you comparing enforcers to pre 1.7 dropships? I'm having troubles figuring out which one was more over-priced.
Assault dropships
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