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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 07:14:00 -
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Minmatar scout melee bonus is still less than medium frame melee, even when maxed out; its also weird for it to get a bonus to another race's weapon (nova knives are Caldari). The 5% hacking speed bonus (which seems like its going to be removed from the Minmatar logi) would be perfect on a scout given that they have the speed to quickly and stealthily reach objectives.
An alternative would be to have the hacking bonus was the role bonus for all scouts, and the Minmatar scout bonus was to the efficacy of biotic modules (kinkats, stimulants, and myofibrals), 10% per level.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 07:19:00 -
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EDIT: Nevermind, increase bad, decrease good. Got confused for a sec.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 07:41:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Minmatar scout melee bonus is still less than medium frame melee, even when maxed out; its also weird for it to get a bonus to another race's weapon (nova knives are Caldari). The 5% hacking speed bonus (which seems like its going to be removed from the Minmatar logi) would be perfect on a scout given that they have the speed to quickly and stealthily reach objectives.
An alternative would be to have the hacking bonus was the role bonus for all scouts, and the Minmatar scout bonus was to the efficacy of biotic modules (kinkats, stimulants, and myofibrals), 10% per level. The plan was to buff up the Minmatar Scout's base melee damage (right now light frames do 80, medium frames 110 and heavy frames 150) up to 120.
That works, though I still think there should be a scout with a hacking bonus.
The bonuses from the test servers in general seem pretty good, though the assault ones are pretty bad. The ROF bonus buffs the AR, RR (and maybe the CR), but not the SCR (nerfing it by ommision). On top of that, the removal of the Amarr assault's heat buildup reduction bonus is a much bigger nerf. The ROF bonus would make a SCR disincentivized on an assault suit because the bonus is wasted on it.
Instead of HP/rep bonuses, assaults should have bonuses that enhance their race's weaponry. You guys had the right idea with the heat bonus.
Amarr: 5% heat buildup per level of laser weapons per.
Minmatar: 5% magazine size per level of projectiles and explosives per level.
Gallente: 5% reload speed of hybrid-blaster weapons per level.
Caldari: something...
As for the assault role bonus, the 4 racial rifles should receive a 10% damage nerf, but the role bonus should give a 2% light weapon damage increase per level, so they will be as strong as they currently are to a maxed out assault, and ensure assaults are better slayers than logis without making the weapons overpowered and hurting TTK.
Also back on scouts, I love the Caldari scout idea of increasing the enemy's precision (so counter-intuitive in regular language though that more precision means less effective at sensing).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 07:55:00 -
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I very much appreciate the replies CCP Remnant. I tried to edit my post to add this, but didn't do so fast enough:
In regards to scouts. I am also worried about the effects of the new Gallente logi active scanner precision bonus on the scout's ability to be stealthy. I would recommend changing it to a range bonus, or nerfing the base precision of active scanners to compensate. Active scanners are already so prevalent as it is right now, and there is no active counter; passive scan is countered by passive dampening, but active scanner equipment has no equipment to counter it.
There are prototype scanner variants that require 4 complex dampeners on a maxed out scout to evade (according to some calculations), and this is without the help of a precision bonus. I fear active scanners may severely hurt the stealth niche.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.01.13 16:35:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:CCP Remnant wrote:hgghyujh wrote:im okay with it, how ever I would like to see other light frame variants for hacking, assassination and battlefield intel.
that said current iterations need two equipment slots more then ever and the pg/cpu buff to go with it. Done and done. Though, you're gonna be losing a sidearm slot. (Also, I think people are gonna faint when they see the PG/CPU costs of cloak fields; Scouts'll be alright though) Pardon? So no more NK/MD fits huh? *cries a little* Well, the thinking was to give the second EQP slot to GA, CA, AM suits and leave the Minmatar with one EQP slot and its sidearm. Still debating that one though.
With he removal of sidearms on scouts, I would like to propose this new specialization (original thread):
Name: Assassin
Frame: light
Slots/stats:
No light weapon slot
3 sidearm slots
Otherwise same as a basic light
Role bonus:
2% sidearm damage per level
Racial bonuses:
Amarr: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Amarr racial knife + laser sidearms (scrambler pistol) per level.
Gallente: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Gallente racial knife + hybrid-baster sidearms (ion pistol) per level.
Caldari: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of nova knives + hybrid-railgun sidearms (bolt pistol & magsec SMG) per level.
Minmatar: 5% reduction reduction in PG/CPU of Minmatar racial knife + projectile & explosive sidearms (flaylock pistol & SMG) per level.
*It may seem like the Caldari and Minmatar will be benefit the most out of the racial bonuses since they each have (or soon will have) an SMG in addition to their pistols and knives, but I'm willing to bet that the Amarr and Gallente will eventually get their own SMG for racial symmetry*
The reasoning behind this is that the Minmatar scout should not have a bonus to a Caldari knife since it doesn't make sense to have a bonus to a nother race's weapon, and even if it did have a bonus to its own race's weapon, it wouldn't fit a scout to have such narrow and combat-oriented bonuses; this is why I am proposing this combat oriented light specialization instead. Also each race will have their own knives and pistols (shown at Fanfest 2013), and I don't want scouts to get bonuses to weapons since it would just encourage them into a narrow combat path instead of stealth, etc. This is meant to be a sidearm/knife suit.
This dropsuit specialization would be perfect for a ninja-knifer, or any sidearm specialist.
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