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BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2014.01.13 11:24:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I very much appreciate the replies CCP Remnant. I tried to edit my post to add this, but didn't do so fast enough:
In regards to scouts. I am also worried about the effects of the new Gallente logi active scanner precision bonus on the scout's ability to be stealthy. I would recommend changing it to a range bonus, or nerfing the base precision of active scanners to compensate. Active scanners are already so prevalent as it is right now, and there is no active counter; passive scan is countered by passive dampening, but active scanner equipment has no equipment to counter it.
There are prototype scanner variants that require 4 complex dampeners on a maxed out scout to evade (according to some calculations), and this is without the help of a precision bonus. I fear active scanners may severely hurt the stealth niche. Scouts are a getting a buff to base scan profile (probably a reduction down to 35, though the exact number isn't final)
Even with that bonus a Gallente scout needs two dampeners to hide from a freaking Advanced Gallente scanner. And impossible to hide from a proto scanner. Please nerf scanners so the difficulty of dampening matches the difficulty of scanning... |
BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2014.01.13 12:22:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:CCP Remnant wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I very much appreciate the replies CCP Remnant. I tried to edit my post to add this, but didn't do so fast enough:
In regards to scouts. I am also worried about the effects of the new Gallente logi active scanner precision bonus on the scout's ability to be stealthy. I would recommend changing it to a range bonus, or nerfing the base precision of active scanners to compensate. Active scanners are already so prevalent as it is right now, and there is no active counter; passive scan is countered by passive dampening, but active scanner equipment has no equipment to counter it.
There are prototype scanner variants that require 4 complex dampeners on a maxed out scout to evade (according to some calculations), and this is without the help of a precision bonus. I fear active scanners may severely hurt the stealth niche. Scouts are a getting a buff to base scan profile (probably a reduction down to 35, though the exact number isn't final) Even with that bonus a Gallente scout needs two dampeners to hide from a freaking Advanced Gallente scanner. And impossible to hide from a proto scanner. Please nerf scanners so the difficulty of dampening matches the difficulty of scanning... Are you sure? The only suit that is able to detect a proto gal scout with advanced scanners would be the gal logi (and that just because the rounding mechanic) As soon as you get one level in profile dampening even the gal logi needs a pro scanner... With one complex dampener on a gal scout even the gal logi will need the focussed scanner...
When I specified Gal scanner I was referring to the Gal Logistics scanner. Also just redid my math and a Gallente scout can use 1 complex dampener to hide from an advanced Gal scanner but it's impossible to hide from proto. Based on the assumption CCP reduces scan to 35. |
BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2014.01.13 12:38:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:
When I specified Gal scanner I was referring to the Gal Logistics scanner. Also just redid my math and a Gallente scout can use 1 complex dampener to hide from an advanced Gal scanner but it's impossible to hide from proto. Based on the assumption CCP reduces scan to 35.
I dare say any math don off of current stats and partial stats from this thread won't be indicative of what we're getting in 1.8 which seems to be a complete overhaul of everything.  Also, FML...a logibro from the start, soon to be speccing balls deep into scout...I had dreams of FINALLY having a side arm  So close and yet so far.
I was going to spec I to scouts. But now I'm not because of the sidearm thing.
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