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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:12:00 -
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Can we finally remove their ability to hold light weapons? Considering how difficult it will be to bring them down in CQC being at a disadvantage in long range combat is the only way to keep them balanced.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Except their resistance is damage type specific, if you're not using a gun they're resistant to, you're going to cut through them just as easily as you do now.
except that they'll have 2000eHP
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:23:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Except their resistance is damage type specific, if you're not using a gun they're resistant to, you're going to cut through them just as easily as you do now. except that they'll have 2000eHP Lies, 10-15% resistance to certain weapons will not double there eHP
Currently a proto sentinel with 4 complex plates, 1 complex shield, and level 5 shields and armor has 1867HP
673 shields and 1194 armor
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:25:00 -
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Since only heavies are responding to this let me add that there will be other racial heavy weapons not just the HMG and forge.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:13:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Can we finally remove their ability to hold light weapons? Considering how difficult it will be to bring them down in CQC being at a disadvantage in long range combat is the only way to keep them balanced. While we're at why not limit medium suits to light weapons only! And scout suits should only be ale to carry sidearms! /s Do you realize how illogical of an idea that sounds? I can carry this giant lead-spewing hose, or a massive hulk of steel that shoots big-ass metal slugs, but I am unable to carry this tiny assault rifle? While I don't personally use light weapons on my Heavy suit, we should have a choice. Why do you hate heavies? Why do you want to limit heavies to only two primary weapons? WHY? WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE BAD IDEAS!?
This isn't about logic its about balance. If you want logic why can't I throw all three AV grenades at once? Why is a heavy incapable of using equipment? Why can I carry three grenades of only one type but not mix and match? Why is commando and BE scout able to carry 2 light weapons but assaults can't? Why can't I duct tape a nanohive to my back and have perma triage repps and constant ammo. Why is there a 6 vehicle limit? Why does a vehicle have to be brought in on an RDV but can teleport when its recalled? Why does being on fire not hurt vehicles?
Balance is far more important than logic in videogames.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:16:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Scalesdini wrote:ITT: STB member cries about how OP heavies will be because of damage resistances that nobody has even seen in action, meanwhile almost every STB member tools around in broken OP tanks that can resist 90% of damage 100% of the time. People still think we spam tanks all the time, for fucks sake its been two builds already, most of our tankers only get on for PC anyway! Pretty sure every time a squad from my corp starts bullying STB, MLT tanks are spammed at an alarming rate.
You're right STB is the only corp that calls in tanks and uses protogear in pubs  I call in soma's to weaken enemy tanks then I jump out and finish him with Lai Dai's. This thread isn't about STB or tanks its heavy's using light weapons so go troll elsewhere.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:30:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Tell me something Carlos, if I had a module which allowed my dropsuit to resist 100% of Thermal and EM Damage, but I took full damage to Kinetic and Hybrid Rail, how would you go about killing me?
I don't play EVE so thats just gibberish to me.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:40:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Tell me something Carlos, if I had a module which allowed my dropsuit to resist 100% of Thermal and EM Damage, but I took full damage to Kinetic and Hybrid Rail, how would you go about killing me? I don't play EVE so thats just gibberish to me. So in other words, you've made a post complaining about the bonuses the Sentinels might get, when you don't even understand the basics of damage types? Damage types exist in Dust too and they're very important. Get informed before you start complaining about things you don't understand, k? 
Sure when I see a protoheavy i can switch weapons to counter that heavy but that means I have to be skilled into every weapon type which means I'm about 20mill SP away from that or I use a STD verison that perfectly counters him and he just laughs because he has close to 2000HP and out ranges me because he has a rail rifle and he can survive the RE I trap him with or he survive the 3 core locus I throw at him.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:44:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Tell me something Carlos, if I had a module which allowed my dropsuit to resist 100% of Thermal and EM Damage, but I took full damage to Kinetic and Hybrid Rail, how would you go about killing me? I don't play EVE so thats just gibberish to me. So in other words, you've made a post complaining about the bonuses the Sentinels might get, when you don't even understand the basics of damage types? Damage types exist in Dust too and they're very important. Get informed before you start complaining about things you don't understand, k? Sure when I see a protoheavy i can switch weapons to counter that heavy but that means I have to be skilled into every weapon type which means I'm about 20mill SP away from that or I use a STD verison that perfectly counters him and he just laughs because his HP is still close to 1000. Or you run in a group where each member of the fire team has a different damage type do you don't have to skill into every weapon, this is a team based game afterall =)
Sure thats fine for me because I'm in a 400+ member corp, but what about the guys who don't have that luxury?
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.09 00:20:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Scalesdini wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Scalesdini wrote:ITT: STB member cries about how OP heavies will be because of damage resistances that nobody has even seen in action, meanwhile almost every STB member tools around in broken OP tanks that can resist 90% of damage 100% of the time. People still think we spam tanks all the time, for fucks sake its been two builds already, most of our tankers only get on for PC anyway! Pretty sure every time a squad from my corp starts bullying STB, MLT tanks are spammed at an alarming rate. You're right STB is the only corp that calls in tanks and uses protogear in pubs I call in soma's to weaken enemy tanks then I jump out and finish him with Lai Dai's. This thread isn't about STB or tanks its about heavy's using light weapons so go troll elsewhere. Your MLT tank costs about the same as my ADV heavy suit, has several orders of magnitude more firepower and range than any heavy, even one using a rail rifle, and can resist 90% of all damage types close to 100% of the time. This is clearly imbalanced - tanks should only be able to equip nova knives for turrets since they resist so much damage. It's simply not fair they have all that range with their ability to take damage, so since heavies should be limited to 40m range weapon for AP, tanks with their much higher ability to take damage should be limited to melee. See how stupid that logic is? This thread is an idiotic QQ thread about how you want to be able to solo heavies in every situation no matter what, which is how heavies got gimped in the first place - baddies whining they couldn't solo everything with their AR. You STB kids should know about that, it's how your precious tanks got nerfed as well. So no thanks, I think I'll keep "trolling" right here. Protip: It's not trolling for me to demonstrate how dumb your logic is.
LMAO I hate tanks and wish they were removed from ambush and I completely agree that MLT tanks are OP, my zero SP pure milita 70k tank can take out madrugars and gunnlogis, and as I said I bring it out to counter enemy tanks and I just jump out with Lai Dais for the kill. And as I stated earlier this isn't about tanks.
And if you want to keep talking **** I'll buy you a clone pack and you can attack one of our districts.
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stlcarlos989
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:51:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Dexter307 wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Except their resistance is damage type specific, if you're not using a gun they're resistant to, you're going to cut through them just as easily as you do now. except that they'll have 2000eHP Lies, 10-15% resistance to certain weapons will not double there eHP Currently a proto sentinel with 4 complex plates, 1 complex shield, and level 5 shields and armor has 1867HP 673 shields and 1194 armor Terrible build for anything outside of PC though. So no heavy will run that
CCP should balance this game around proto PC players. Balancing this game around average players in pubs is a mistake, it should be balanced around competitive players all using proto with squad tactics being taken into account, Goodluck killing a 1000+ armor Proto heavy with 25% blast resistance and a minmatar logi 47m behind him with a rep tool doing 87.6 HP/s.
Maradur you should know as well as anyone I'm not just some QQing no talent scrub, I drop proto sentinels in CQC 1v1s with my Six kin CR all day, I'm looking at balance with these new racial bonus'.
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