When hitting moving targets and not having to be even closely aimed fully to hit targets Yes a majority of weapons in DUST have turned OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqlnXZU6bw


Aslong as THIS is part of DUST all hitscan weapons will have issues. Every new player that comes to DUST knowing how to play FPS will get destroyed by vets, AA vs Your AA + Skills and suit = ????????

This is about choices.

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I agree on this, my mass driver almost completely useless since these two rifles got onto the field. I'm using a basic RR with only one point in it and getting more kills than my fully specced mass driver and I've got a pretty crap aim to go along with it.

If you use kb and mouse then you do have that advantage of 0 momentum when you strafe and the ds3 is a clumsy piece of ish vs that in cqc.

Just saying, now imagine raw input.

If not then it'll be aim assist which actually works best with the scr, on my alt I can drop 3 - 4 people no problem within seconds without even aiming, I'll now watch the video.

Edit: yep.

KBM since Wolfenstein 3D came out 20 years ago (+-) but yeah, still would like to have raw input one day as i feel like i play like a handicapped person in this game, but i can deal with the Aim Assist, because most guys don't get to the Aim Part.

But normally CEO_pyrex is also a KBM player but swapped to DS3 because it had the AA. /rolls eyes

That game you watched was with KBM, so i had no AA and my record still sits at 7 people before overheat became an issue, i am now doing exactly the same thing with both the RR and CR.

SCR drops people before they can react.
CR drops people before they can react.
RR drops people before they can react.

I don't really notice a diffrence.

Who in their right mind goes close range with a Rail Rifle ._.
unless we're talking about the assault variant(: which wouldn't really make a difference because it's still pretty stable

Short poll so i can see peoples answer.

http://strawpoll.me/969842


Up close weapon tears you up.

Medium range. Weapon tears you up.

Long range. Weapon tears you up.


I feel like it either needs a 0.65 charge time to be balanced at close range.

bigger hip fire dispersion. Or lower damage in close range, kind of like the laser rifle. But not that severe though.

I find that this weapon really has no drawbacks. the spool up time isnt long enough to hinder the weapon in CQC.

The rail rifle just does so much damage that you really cant do anything about it after it starts hitting you. Perhaps a lower ROF could fix that.


Something needs to be done so this weapon isn't super deadly at all ranges. It has great range and great accuracy.

All caldari weapons have very long range and very high damage. It is balanced learn the lore before you say something.

The laser rifle and mass driver had their op moments now they are niche weapons. Leave the guns be no one wants those two weapons op again. They are niche weapons like the hmg get good with your weapon and wait for their buff don't ask for a nerf because it probably won't happen.

The rifles need the 10-15% damage reduction an earlier commenter suggested because the TTK is too low. The problem with the niche weapons is that they aren't even superior in their supposed niche (with perhaps the exception of a MD user on a roof or something raining down explosive death). I've got proficiency 5 in ScR and MD on my main and I've pretty much quit using the MD because in the time it takes me to fire 2 rounds (which kills just about nobody) a rifle of either the 4 varieties kills me. I imagine the laser suffers a similar problem, since it requires heat build up before its deadly a CR or RR will kill the laser rifle user before his weapon could possibly kill the other guy.

I am saying the MD can live again. I use a shield shreading weapon with a mas driver on a Commando Suit.
I had given up on my Commando suit as it has been stuck in Basic for a long time but I used the Imperial Advanced Suit and it was fun.
AR and MD or SCR and MD is a great combo.
Even if you have a better suit and you are a better player I destroy as much of your shield as I can and flee raining mass drivers on you lol

I find it balanced, the only concern is how quickly you can ADS. I've noticed the adv rr snaps ads a lot quicker than the basic one and roughly the same as the proto rr.

Idk but I feel the rail rifle is "my" weapon. It is the weapon that feels most comfortable. I don't know how to explain it other than, it just feels "right" to use a rail rifle.

EDIT: forgot to add my 2 cents for CQC rr.

Simply put, it's an absolute powerhouse if your accurate.

Somewhat longer answer:

Because the RR is a form of breach AR, it will have a natural tighter hip fire spread over a distance (read the description of all weapons with "breach" in the name). It has a slower fire rate, but a fairly high DPS (for an AR). So if you are accurate....that is, if you can effectively lead a target, you can use the RR at virtually all ranges. Having good techniques such as feathering the trigger, will also help to reset the guns kick and keep your shots as accurate as possible. If you aim for the upper body/head when hip firing, the rail rifle will wreck most targets with half a clip or less in a closer range. In the optimal range, the RR can decimate an enemy with about a quarter of a clip (provided all shots hit your target, and you are using ADS).

TL;DR- it's not OP, people are just angry cause they got killed by it, it's like me getting wrecked by a CR. But do I scream OP? No. I take it with a grain of salt and adjust my tactics/fittings accordingly.

It's as easy as that.