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Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 869	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:13:00 - [1] - Quote I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) Smeehf.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3641	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:16:00 - [2] - Quote Matari Scouts too while we're sitting here complaining about near useless suits. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 155	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:34:00 - [3] - Quote Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1313	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:34:00 - [4] - Quote If ever I do bring out my Assault mk.0, I make sure to bring along a crapload of damage mods and my trusty sniper rifle. However... I dun snipe. Yup, it's not relevant to me as well.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 869	Posted - 2014.01.04 09:55:00 - [5] - Quote I've been using it with pistols and it's good for that (adv) but not much else. Smeehf.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2790	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:00:00 - [6] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) One more low for Minmatar suits. Do it CCP. No.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2503	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:01:00 - [7] - Quote Proto minmatar assault for quite some time here. The bonus is definitely worth it if you like SMGs. Even better if you have the sort of SP invested that some people do. Having 100 rounds in a clip is insane if you get a great flank off or you love side arms. Even before the flaylock got nerfed to useless the SMG has always been the best side arm choice for minmatar. The only stat that this suit has over any other medium frame is the movement/strafe speed. No other suit can strafe as fast as this suit. It's really the only stat it has that no other medium frame can ever beat. The only thing that is out strafing a minnie is a scout. By no means is this a great suit though. You're paper thin compared to every other suit. It doesn't tank well. It has horrible regen. Stacking more than 3 damage mods is absolutely pointless. Other assault suits are simply better. I really only survive as well as I do because I am used to playing scout so that extra 200 HP is a lot in comparison. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1506	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:15:00 - [8] - Quote Lol my suit it useless, it has CPU and PG limitations, if I stack armor plates it'd be a waste of a suit. Please you have the second highest CPU and PG for a mid frame in the game, then your the fastest suit in the game and everyone stacks armor plates even them Caldari. So please stop your qq. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 869	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:23:00 - [9] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lol my suit it useless, it has CPU and PG limitations, if I stack armor plates it'd be a waste of a suit. Please you have the second highest CPU and PG for a mid frame in the game, then your the fastest suit in the game and everyone stacks armor plates even them Caldari. So please stop your qq. What suit are you using then? To Curious Li-Moody: The sidearm bonus for minmatar is good for pistols also. I've gotten used to low hp and can live with that but the proto suit just feels lacking, hence my 'QQ' of upgrading it. Smeehf.
Cosgar ParagonX 9054	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:34:00 - [10] - Quote Been saying this for a while. It's not the suit, it's the lack of high slot modules that are actually useful. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1435	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:36:00 - [11] - Quote SORRY FOR THE MONSTER POST The only way I can run a viable Min Assault is by abusing the Low fitting requirements of the Core Flaylock and the Republic Boundless. By using those two weapons (AND NO EQUIPMENT) I can stack 4 complex shields, a complex damage mod, enhanced speed, and a basic plate. 470 Shields 245 armor 8.3 Sprint I shouldn't be having to sacrifice so much just to get a good fit. ON ANOTHER NOTE: I think the Minmatar Assault needs the 4/3 layout instead of the 5/2. Give the Caldari Assault the 5/2 and us the 4/3. It makes more sense, as Min's are supposed to be light dual tankers with huge speed. This will also discourage the Dual Tanking Caldari that we see all the time. By giving them an extra shield slot, they could conceivably run the following fit (which is oh so caldari) Cal Assault CK.0 582 Shields 155 Armor 46 hp/s recharge (Both of these are pretty much scout level recharge on an assault suit) 3.62s delay 4x Complex shields 1x Complex Recharge PRO AR ADV SMG M1 Locus K17-D(R) Hives 1x Complex CPU 1x Complex Regulator Amazing right? Fast, tough with excellent regen. What about the Minmatar? 4/3 layout. (My fit at least) with a CPU/PG buff, as it will still be needed. Assault MK.0 405 Shields 251 Armor 22.5 hp/s regen 1.0 armor regen 4.68 delay Sprints at 8.77 3x Complex Shields 1x Complex L Damage mod PRO CR PRO Flay M1 Locus No equipment 1x Complex Ferro 1x Complex Kincat 1x Enhanced Shield Reg Made to be a rapid flanker. Shields should take the brunt of the damage, with 251 armor as backup. When you start taking too much shield damage, you should sprint away and wait for the regen. You can replace the damage mod with a recharger, but I think that flanking is more about doing as much damage as possible in a short period of time, and then running away if they turn to shoot you. Hence the damage is more important than a good regen, as you should be away from danger while recharging, not in it. Just my ideas on this. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3650	Posted - 2014.01.04 13:13:00 - [12] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. Your dirty Amarr suit gets a bonus to the most lethal rifle in this game, HTFU! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 1864	Posted - 2014.01.04 13:23:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. Your dirty Amarr suit gets a bonus to the most lethal rifle in this game, HTFU! Yeah! At least the general assault bonus actually helps for your suits, shields mean nothing to me. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
G Torq ALTA B2O 345	Posted - 2014.01.04 13:39:00 - [14] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 532	Posted - 2014.01.04 13:40:00 - [15] - Quote Your mk0 is trash. My ak0 and my viziam (**** sidearms) eats you all day long. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3651	Posted - 2014.01.04 13:42:00 - [16] - Quote G Torq wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... logi Sinboto - The True Blood Minja* Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 1819	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:08:00 - [17] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) The Min and cal assualts need to swap slot layout, and the min depleted recharge rate should be smaller than the cal suit, so you you could fit a regulator in a low slot and be able to counter the shield extender stacking penalty. If min is supposed to be the hit and run suit that is. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3023	Posted - 2014.01.04 15:58:00 - [18] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Your mk0 is trash. My ak0 and my viziam (**** sidearms) eats you all day long. Until you realize that we have the most powerful infantry "weapon" in the entire game. Go home Amarrian. You aren't welcome here. Most hated person since Lueko and Checkmate AV is easy huh? Talk is cheap.
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 532	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:04:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Your mk0 is trash. My ak0 and my viziam (**** sidearms) eats you all day long. Until you realize that we have the most powerful infantry "weapon" in the entire game. Go home Amarrian. You aren't welcome here. Your "most powerful weapon" (made of duct tape) has less dps than my viziam (during the relevant time frame). That's why you guys are dying and dying and dying. To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
demonkiller 12 G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder. 297	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:15:00 - [20] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. go pick up a laser rifle and enjoy that incredibly OP damage buff, youre welcome

pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 260	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:25:00 - [21] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Atiim wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Your mk0 is trash. My ak0 and my viziam (**** sidearms) eats you all day long. Until you realize that we have the most powerful infantry "weapon" in the entire game. Go home Amarrian. You aren't welcome here. Your "most powerful weapon" (made of duct tape) has less dps than my viziam (during the relevant time frame). That's why you guys are dying and dying and dying. please scrub, were beating you 9 out of every 10 fw matches. you must have " 0% OF DISTRICT OWNED " burned into your tv screen, it pops up so often
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 789	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:34:00 - [22] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Proto minmatar assault for quite some time here. The bonus is definitely worth it if you like SMGs. Even better if you have the sort of SP invested that some people do. Having 100 rounds in a clip is insane if you get a great flank off or you love side arms. Even before the flaylock got nerfed to useless the SMG has always been the best side arm choice for minmatar. The only stat that this suit has over any other medium frame is the movement/strafe speed. No other suit can strafe as fast as this suit. It's really the only stat it has that no other medium frame can ever beat. The only thing that is out strafing a minnie is a scout. By no means is this a great suit though. You're paper thin compared to every other suit. It doesn't tank well. It has horrible regen. Stacking more than 3 damage mods is absolutely pointless. Other assault suits are simply better. I really only survive as well as I do because I am used to playing scout so that extra 200 HP is a lot in comparison. its called having tactics and strategy not every suit in the game is meant to be a full frontal assualt In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution 1400	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:39:00 - [23] - Quote just wait till you get a Matari tank though. Acceleration of a Gunlogi and top speed of a Madrugar. My mouth is watering, already. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1508	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:40:00 - [24] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lol my suit it useless, it has CPU and PG limitations, if I stack armor plates it'd be a waste of a suit. Please you have the second highest CPU and PG for a mid frame in the game, then your the fastest suit in the game and everyone stacks armor plates even them Caldari. So please stop your qq. What suit are you using then? To Curious Li-Moody: The sidearm bonus for minmatar is good for pistols also. I've gotten used to low hp and can live with that but the proto suit just feels lacking, hence my 'QQ' of upgrading it. I have the ak.0 on this character. But I'm sure your gonna be like your opinion doesn't matter then so let me explain my headaches. At proto I only have 3lows and 3 highs that load out makes for some pretty interesting fits right? I'm slower than a pregnant woman, my racial gun doesn't know the meaning of conservation **** eats CPU and pg like a midnight snack. I get 30 more HP and some stamina bonuses that is somehow equal to loosing some speed oh but get this I'm also inheritly slower then any other mid frame because of that. But that ain't the annoying part the most annoying part is that a damn scout gk.0 can get 600+ armor and still move faster than me. But I just learnt to deal with stuff I don't like by spamming grenades. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2504	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:42:00 - [25] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: just wait till you get a Matari tank though. Acceleration of a Gunlogi and top speed of a Madrugar. My mouth is watering, already. and the tank of a LAV Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 789	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:42:00 - [26] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: just wait till you get a Matari tank though. Acceleration of a Gunlogi and top speed of a Madrugar. My mouth is watering, already. and hopefully 3L and 3H In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1508	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:48:00 - [27] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: SORRY FOR THE MONSTER POST The only way I can run a viable Min Assault is by abusing the Low fitting requirements of the Core Flaylock and the Republic Boundless. By using those two weapons (AND NO EQUIPMENT) I can stack 4 complex shields, a complex damage mod, enhanced speed, and a basic plate. 470 Shields 245 armor 8.3 Sprint I shouldn't be having to sacrifice so much just to get a good fit. ON ANOTHER NOTE: I think the Minmatar Assault needs the 4/3 layout instead of the 5/2. Give the Caldari Assault the 5/2 and us the 4/3. It makes more sense, as Min's are supposed to be light dual tankers with huge speed. This will also discourage the Dual Tanking Caldari that we see all the time. By giving them an extra shield slot, they could conceivably run the following fit (which is oh so caldari) Cal Assault CK.0 582 Shields 155 Armor 46 hp/s recharge (Both of these are pretty much scout level recharge on an assault suit) 3.62s delay 4x Complex shields 1x Complex Recharge PRO AR ADV SMG M1 Locus K17-D(R) Hives 1x Complex CPU 1x Complex Regulator Amazing right? Fast, tough with excellent regen. What about the Minmatar? 4/3 layout. (My fit at least) with a CPU/PG buff, as it will still be needed. Assault MK.0 405 Shields 251 Armor 22.5 hp/s regen 1.0 armor regen 4.68 delay Sprints at 8.77 3x Complex Shields 1x Complex L Damage mod PRO CR PRO Flay M1 Locus No equipment 1x Complex Ferro 1x Complex Kincat 1x Enhanced Shield Reg Made to be a rapid flanker. Shields should take the brunt of the damage, with 251 armor as backup. When you start taking too much shield damage, you should sprint away and wait for the regen. You can replace the damage mod with a recharger, but I think that flanking is more about doing as much damage as possible in a short period of time, and then running away if they turn to shoot you. Hence the damage is more important than a good regen, as you should be away from danger while recharging, not in it. Just my ideas on this. I find it funny that you put a complex CPU mod on that caldari fit but you give yourself a CPU pg buff to fit all those complex modules and weapons "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
daishi mk03 BLACK-GUARD Die Fremdenlegion 532	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:55:00 - [28] - Quote pyramidhead 420 wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Atiim wrote: daishi mk03 wrote: Your mk0 is trash. My ak0 and my viziam (**** sidearms) eats you all day long. Until you realize that we have the most powerful infantry "weapon" in the entire game. Go home Amarrian. You aren't welcome here. Your "most powerful weapon" (made of duct tape) has less dps than my viziam (during the relevant time frame). That's why you guys are dying and dying and dying. please scrub, were beating you 9 out of every 10 fw matches. you must have " 0% OF DISTRICT OWNED " burned into your tv screen, it pops up so often lol, what took you so long, terrorist scum? try to boast with something other than 16 queue synch'ed tards like you winning vs 12 academy players. until then, eat my lazor To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin. The Scriptures,Book of Missions
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven 166	Posted - 2014.01.04 16:57:00 - [29] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lol my suit it useless, it has CPU and PG limitations, if I stack armor plates it'd be a waste of a suit. Please you have the second highest CPU and PG for a mid frame in the game, then your the fastest suit in the game and everyone stacks armor plates even them Caldari. So please stop your qq. Caldari base shield equals 210, mk.0 is 150. Caldari and Gallente 60 pg, 300 cpu. Minmatar is 64pg and 320cpu. Cal gets a free shield ext out of the gate for essentially 4pg and 20 cpu. Gal stacks armor with reduced fitting costs compared to shields. So....whatsyour point? Come back when you have a legitimate argument.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 874	Posted - 2014.01.04 17:09:00 - [30] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Repe Susi wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lol my suit it useless, it has CPU and PG limitations, if I stack armor plates it'd be a waste of a suit. Please you have the second highest CPU and PG for a mid frame in the game, then your the fastest suit in the game and everyone stacks armor plates even them Caldari. So please stop your qq. What suit are you using then? To Curious Li-Moody: The sidearm bonus for minmatar is good for pistols also. I've gotten used to low hp and can live with that but the proto suit just feels lacking, hence my 'QQ' of upgrading it. I have the ak.0 on this character. But I'm sure your gonna be like your opinion doesn't matter then so let me explain my headaches. At proto I only have 3lows and 3 highs that load out makes for some pretty interesting fits right? I'm slower than a pregnant woman, my racial gun doesn't know the meaning of conservation **** eats CPU and pg like a midnight snack. I get 30 more HP and some stamina bonuses that is somehow equal to loosing some speed oh but get this I'm also inheritly slower then any other mid frame because of that. But that ain't the annoying part the most annoying part is that a damn scout gk.0 can get 600+ armor and still move faster than me. But I just learnt to deal with stuff I don't like by spamming grenades. Aannyway, this thread was about Minmatar Assault. Not Amarr. Smeehf.

el OPERATOR Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:03:00 - [31] - Quote There isn't a dropsuit in the game, PROTO or otherwise that realizes any of it's full potential until you've maxed your dropsuit core upgrades, especially Dropsuit Engineering and Dropsuit Electronics. Save yourself some frustration at sinking a million+ SPs into a PROTO suit that can't stack/tank/outfit the way you want and do your core elec/engin FIRST. They seem stupid, but the gains made by maxing those are the key to being able to create the fits you're wanting to do. On the plus side, they affect every suit you have so if you branch out the new suits will have the gains too. Open-Beta Vet. NPC Corp Independent Contractor. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 159	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:02:00 - [32] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. Your dirty Amarr suit gets a bonus to the most lethal rifle in this game, HTFU! I'm sorry my confused matari, we're not the caldari, which you should recognize after your slot distribution was swapped.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 159	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:04:00 - [33] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. go pick up a laser rifle and enjoy that incredibly OP damage buff, youre welcome Yay two or three shots before my dps drops to 0
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2794	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:08:00 - [34] - Quote Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. I have both. The Amarr suit is by far superior. They're the easiest suits to fit. No.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1444	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:10:00 - [35] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: I find it funny that you put a complex CPU mod on that caldari fit but you give yourself a CPU pg buff to fit all those complex modules and weapons I knew someone would notice that. Reason is simple. Shields, regulators and rechargers are VERY CPU heavy. Since you don't need the low slots, you might as well use a low and give yourself the extra CPU. It's the reason why he runs so much complex regulators, rechargers, and extenders, AS WELL as that amazing K17 Rep Hive. Heck, now that I think about it, he could probably run a PRO Sidearm too. I didn't put on the the Min Assault, because he is actually VERY close to max with that suit. It only needs around 3 more PG and 10 more CPU to run the fit I have listed. He sacrifices his equipment because he won't have a chance to use it. Since he is a rapid flanker, he shouldn't be standing still long enough to use a hive or such. Much easier to forgo the equipment, and focus on killing power and speed, rather than staying power. The Caldari runs the equipment because he has the extra CPU to run it, and it synergizes well with his role. He is a tanked mid-long range attacker. Since he will often be at range (and near cover), running the hive gives him the ammo he needs to provide constant long range surppressive fire. The armor rep is a bonus, just in case his shields break (which will happen eventually) Hope that answers your question. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 161	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:11:00 - [36] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Vermaak 'Fatal' Kuvakei wrote: Both of you, look at the amarr assault suit and be grateful you greedy matari heathens. I have both. The Amarr suit is by far superior. They're the easiest suits to fit. That's because of the lower slot count
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 437	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:19:00 - [37] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) CPU and pg upgrades that's kinda why their you know their We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1899	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:44:00 - [38] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) The Min and cal assualts need to swap slot layout, and the min depleted recharge rate should be smaller than the cal suit, so you you could fit a regulator in a low slot and be able to counter the shield extender stacking penalty. If min is supposed to be the hit and run suit that is. I have noticed that as well. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Tectonic Fusion 928	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:00:00 - [39] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Matari Scouts too while we're sitting here complaining about near useless suits. I use the militia, and it's pretty good with 2 basic/enhanced armor, a combat rifle, advanced knives, packed AV grenade, and a remote explosive. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1437	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:21:00 - [40] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) I got the minmatar assault. It was remarkably underwhelming. A friend of mine asked me what I thought of the suit. I told him the same thing and added that he probably shouldn't spec into it. He didn't listen and now he regrets putting the SP into the suit as well. So now im going to warn you, unless you want to run plasma cannon, or swarm launchers with 5 damage mods. Do not run this suit. The only reason you would want to run it right now is that eventually it will get a lot better. But as far as tier for tier assault suits go, the minmatar definitely feels like its below the rest. The amar has a great balance between shields and armor, along with a fantastic racial bonus letting me use SRs and LRs at my leisure. The Gallente has fantastic armor tank, and if you couple its racial skill with the specialist duvolle assault rifle you have a lot more CPU/PG to play with then most. The Caldari has a wonderful shield tank if properly fitted and is otherwise just an all around balanced suit with great performance. The minmatars only advantage is a marginal speed buff. If that suit ran as fast or just a little less fast then a scout suit, then I think it would definitely fill in a very niche role. But the fact that its only marginally faster, with a lack of CPU/PG means you have to fit a CPU/PG module to give you the extra room you need to fit a gun, a nanohive or scanner, and 5 shield extenders. (because if you don't fit the shield extenders you don't have nearly as much health as most of the other suits) and even when you do fit those shield extenders your suits HP regen is so slow that it takes literally a year to regen its shields fully. With the addition of the combat rifle one could argue that the suit isn't that bad. Its pretty decent at rapid relocation and flanking. But the fact that the suits CPU/PG is so low means that its really limited in what it can do. But pshhhhhh what do I know? Marston VC, STB Director

McFurious TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 403	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:30:00 - [41] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) CPU and pg upgrades that's kinda why their you know there I have CPU and PG at level 5. I have to use those in the lows for most of my fits. Suit still sucks. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
G Torq ALTA B2O 346	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:57:00 - [42] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: G Torq wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... logi The Minmatar Assault Suit has a 5% Hack-Speed bonus, scrubby :) Team Fairy DUST* HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3659	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:08:00 - [43] - Quote G Torq wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: G Torq wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... logi The Minmatar Assault Suit* has a 5% Hack-Speed bonus, scrubby :) If you say so. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 2508	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:14:00 - [44] - Quote G Torq wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: G Torq wrote: Repe Susi wrote: I have Min assault @ lvl 3 and honestly I feel like not getting it to level 5. Yeah, you got the speed, yeah you got the armor repair and yeah you got the sidearm clip bonus. Whoopty doo. level 5 gives you 2 more high slots, which, if I've read correctly from other posts you can't even use sensibly because of the CPU/PG limitations. I would LOVE to have 2 dmg mods and 3 shields (or vice versa) on the slots but as it is, that just won't work with my style because those are CPU hogs, coupled with kin cat / dampeners in the lows. You could put armor plates in the lows but it still doesn't compare to caldari assault suit and you'd be sacrificing the only bonus Min Assault suit has beyond others. (Speed) You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... logi The Minmatar Assault Suit* has a 5% Hack-Speed bonus, scrubby :) Not sure if trolling or... Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
G Torq ALTA B2O 346	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:15:00 - [45] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: G Torq wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: G Torq wrote: Repe Susi wrote: blablabla You get that 5% hack-speed bonus with Minmatar Assault suits... logi The Minmatar Assault Suit* has a 5% Hack-Speed bonus, scrubby :) If you say so. http://dust.thang.dk/showgearcomparison.php?gear=351071,363934,363935,363936 - look for mHackSpeedFactor (hint - 1.05 vs 1 means 5%) A view of the same data, formatted differently: http://pct-gritb.rhcloud.com/sde/type/364018 (Minmatar) and http://pct-gritb.rhcloud.com/sde/type/364019 (Gallente) Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1445	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:22:00 - [46] - Quote G Torq wrote: http://dust.thang.dk/showgearcomparison.php?gear=351071,363934,363935,363936 - look for mHackSpeedFactor (hint - 1.05 vs 1 means 5%) A view of ca the same data, formatted differently: http://pct-gritb.rhcloud.com/sde/type/364018 (Minmatar) and http://pct-gritb.rhcloud.com/sde/type/364019 (Gallente) So, not what I'm saying, but what the data from CCP Games is saying. Well I'll be! Have a like for that! Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
G Torq ALTA B2O 347	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:28:00 - [47] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: G Torq wrote: The Minmatar Assault Suit has a 5% Hack-Speed bonus, scrubby :) Not sure if trolling or... Trust me, if I was going for trolling, I'd be betting you all 100mill ISK each that I was right, before dropping the links :) Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5328	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:33:00 - [48] - Quote Hey at least your bonus is half useful to your suit Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 105	Posted - 2014.01.04 22:49:00 - [49] - Quote Up the shield recharge rate and CPU/PG enough to be able to fit, well, anything. When flanking or skirting around cover, I can usually run quickly enough to survive the initial response, but can't get shields back in time to make a second attempt or move to a new position, so I just get grenaded or zerged.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 524	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:22:00 - [50] - Quote The flanker assault just isn't as viable thanks to active scanners. I skilled into min assault as my AV fit. The concept was to be able to get around the battlefield quickly on foot with swarms and a nasty smg for dealing with infantry. Well now I've got 2 enhanced plates on her and a combat riffle and I'm basically a gimped caldari assault.

Aero Yassavi Yassavi House 4269	Posted - 2014.01.05 00:34:00 - [51] - Quote All they need to do is increase TTK. If you increase TTK, then your speed becomes a factor. This is also true for scouts. Also if you increase TTK, the Commando's dual light weapons becomes a factor, as well as his reload speed. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor


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