We shouldn't have to accept any kind of downgrade in visuals. The game already frankly looks really bad in a lot of areas. Though maybe the graphic slider options could downgrade things a bit further? I don't know, but I would use it a lot for PC.

Try playing the game in 576p, takes me right back to 1995 graphics, but it at least gets me the minimum framerate i need to play this game at.

I might actually try this, it is already the worst looking ps3 game i own but if it helps with the frame rate and i can still see everything then why not.

Which do you think will happen first for Dust?

Hitting one of these standards should have been the absolute top priority and it's rather remarkable it hasn't happened yet as its one of the number one killers of first impressions about the game.

I specialise in cqc up to mid range, so it doesnt affect me that much but at long range youll be firing at moving pixels, but i am used to that aswell as in all competetive FPS games on PC since CounterStrike we turned down graphics to get stable framerates.

Friend of mine tried it, he couldnt hit anything anymore, just because he couldnt see it, it's like the chevron change if you rely on scanners and squad vision, when it goes away, all of a sudden, yer blind.

Try playing the game in 576p, takes me right back to 1995 graphics, but it at least gets me the minimum framerate i need to play this game at.

Which do you think will happen first for Dust?

Hitting one of these standards should have been the absolute top priority and it's rather remarkable it hasn't happened yet as its one of the number one killers of first impressions about the game.

If you can name a game on consol's that even run at 1080, or even run a consistent 30 fps... its kinda a myth on the ps3 that has never really happened.

If there's a PS4 version, I want the following:
- Full 1080p
- 60fps
- Graphic same as now or slightly better
- Bigger FoV
- Bigger environments

All doable as long as they don't upgrade the ******* graphics too much. The PS3 -> PS4 jump is not minor.

You forgot about larger squad sizes and more players per match.

Something I wonder about,since I'm not as tech savy as a lot of others,but wouldn't it have helped this game technically if it were on a disc?

I'm a former MAG veteran and have seen what massive battles with little to no lag feels like,and I'm sure one of the reasons that it ran so smooth(30 FPS with little to no rendering issues) is because even though the game was online only,most of the rendering was on a disc.

Now I know that they wanted Dust to be F2P so that's why they didn't put it on disc,but look at what suffers because of that.I remember right before closed beta invites were out,CCP originally said that the game would be $20 with a $10 sub.I don't see why they just didn't charge $20 for the disc,and make everything else microtransactions,that way,the game would have run smoother,and they still would have made money.

Just another example of how CCP is failing on every level.

That's what I meant with "bigger environments". Maybe I should have written "larger scale".


HDD is faster. BD only runs at 1X speed on the PS3.
I don't know about bandwith. Maybe it's higher on BDs for the PS3, but the issue here is that it would require really careful optimization for streaming data. I don't think CCP are competent enough for that.
PS4 will have a performance boost just because CCP won't have to use the arcane architecture of the PS3 anymore. PS4 is basically a PC and thus programmed essentially the same way.

Also, I would never call 30FPS smooth.

Assuming the game is going to ps4/makes it to its next platform id say we are more likely to see 60 frames then than 30 frames now. Im no tech head but i would really like to know what is in this game that is stressing the ps3 enough to not be getting atleast 30 frames, there are countless other ps3 games that have better texture quality, more things happening at once, further draw distance etc and they have a way better frame rate than here. I am guessing poor optimization?

I remember reading the human eye wont really be able to see a choppiness of the frame rate until your getting lower than 22 frames, you basically can't even walk around without it stuttering so the current frame rate generally has to be below that. I would easily accept a downgrade of visuals or whatever for a stable 30 FPS.