coming from a guy that wants his av grenade crutch back so he can be god infantry again, that's a laugh.

I use a forge gun. but you already knew that because you've felt it in your ass a few times. did you like it?

im not arguing that things are perfect, they are just going in the right direction now. if you cant outsmart an intelligent player then what right do you have to kill him or defeat him or what have you?

I would agree if there was a way to outsmart them. It's not a battle of wits/skill, it's a test of patience in how long one can wait for another to make a mistake. It's like trying to outsmart an opponent in chess with the added rule that they may claim invincibility on any attack you make as long as they're lucid enough to see the move.

the thing about av grenades, they were an abomination, they were used as a primary weapon, grenades are not primary weapons.

I'm tired.

Must I say the same things over and over and over again?

How many times do I have to leave a tankers thread and arguments in shambles before they get the point.

then find a way, stop expecting everything to be handed to you.

knowing you it mustv been an ishukone assault forge gun because those things were op, they did far too much damage for that rof.

He QQs about tanks being OP when he refuses to try to kill them. I saw him go 2/9 in a pub. He didn't pull out AV once which means one of 2 things:
1) He has nothing better than MLT AV and has no place saying whether or not AV is UP.
2) He has ADV or PRO AV and refuses to use it, meaning he makes no effort to use AV, and therefore, has no place saying tanks are OP when they ROFLSTOMP all over his AR-toting corpse.

Funny thing is Atiim also claims to have SP in tanks, so he SHOULD have used his own to counter our tanks, but he didn't.

err, yeah, good one. so anything that can kill a tank must be OP. btw rail tank rof, damage, and range all greater than the ishukone assault forge. So by your logic... what does that make a rail tank?



or 3. He didn't want to waste his time fighting over powered broken aspects of the game.

im going to your house, good luck with the insurance. lol...

you misunderstand when I say entitled, how is 1 single person entitled to kill something over 5x his size with no effort or skill involved? why are infantry entitled to one shot everything like in call of duty and vehicle pilots forced to eat ****?

that is your logic.

I have a better question.

Why should one person be able to hop into a tank and require 3-6 people to destroy?

Why do tankers feel so entitled to do so, yet scoff at the idea of AV doing the same?

-Insert Revised Spkr4TheDead sig here.

answer my question and il answer yours, you have never given any kind of valid reason why a single person should be able to destroy something 5x his size on his own.

Replying to this thread is a waste of time.
The original poster just wants to hear himself talk or sound smart

are you guys just shooting at tanks when their hardeners are up?

if you are thats your problem, your too stupid to learn how to do new things.

but seriously, this is what I have in mind for making the balance more perfect.

sica & soma- 1 type of hardener on, stacking penalties apply, if you try to put more than one hardener on the fitting will become invalid. reasonable for militia grade equipment.

Gunnlogi & Madrugar- 2 hardeners max, since these are the ones you have to sink SP into, but they are still STD tanks, they should be allowed only 2 hardeners on max. 1 hardener for combat, the other hardener for retreating but it would be weaker because of stacking penalties. you cant activate them until both are colldowned. or when you activate one hardener you automatically get all of them activated and they are on colldown mode when retreating.

the price of tanks right now SHOULD HAVE been the price BEFORE 1.7 because lest face it, they weren't worth **** back then, every brain dead ****** with av grenades could solo the toughest ones with little to no effort.

increase the price of militia tanks to 150k, STD to 500k. that way it does cost isk to send them in, but its not to where everybody goes broke for a single fitting.

for AV to become a role again, you guys need to adapt or die for once in your lives, this is no longer call of duty 514, its your turn to experience **** for once. now you see what youv put tankers through for the last year or so.

reap what youv sewn.

I have a better question.

Why should one person be able to hop into a tank and require 3-6 people to destroy?

Why do tankers feel so entitled to do so, yet scoff at the idea of AV doing the same?

-Insert Revised Spkr4TheDead sig here.

, and having one class completely killed because others feel entitled

we (they) have adapted to over a year's worth of nerf after nerf after nerf, always getting the screwed end of the deal every time, tanks were a complete joke back then before 1.7, not worth the isk or SP you needed to put into them, now they are a thriving class that needs to have the weak weeded out.

answer my question and il answer yours, you have never given any kind of valid reason why a single person should be able to destroy something 5x his size on his own.

before 1.7- "hey everyone, a tanks here, free points" nobody feared tanks, they were jokes.

after 1.7- "why do I have to work for this now? this isn't call of duty anymore!!!!"

you act as if you don't remember the forge sniping days where it would take 4+ snipers and really good luck rendering and those had gone over 40+ kills w/ zero deaths.
and 1 aver can solo a tank, its not as easy as it was before but its still possible. get good.

you act as if you don't remember the forge sniping days where it would take 4+ snipers and really good luck rendering and those had gone over 40+ kills w/ zero deaths.
and 1 aver can solo a tank, its not as easy as it was before but its still possible. get good.

tankers didn't adapt to anything. especially not void echo. they cried until they got an "easy win" button.

most real tankers in game will admit that they're OP and completely imbalanced.

Void echo is a joke. not worth replying to.

im going to your house, good luck with the insurance. lol...

you misunderstand when I say entitled, how is 1 single person entitled to kill something over 5x his size with no effort or skill involved? why are infantry entitled to one shot everything like in call of duty and vehicle pilots forced to eat ****?

that is your logic.

interesting, because I have never heard anyone say anything remotely similar to that or in that tone in over a year.

Obscure real life reference for you. I know it's a game but, If you were ever in the military you would have heard of the "LAW". Light anti tank weapon. Shoulder fired, completely disposable, could one shot an Abrahms M1 main battle tank and any other main battle tank in the world. EVERY member of a fire team was trained in proper use and targeting. Avg soldier fully outfitted with full combat gear weighed about 230lbs. M1 main battle tank, 69.4 tons. This was twenty years ago, now they have a new toy called Javeline, shoulder fired and laser guided, will take out a 70 ton tank at extreme ranges. Power to weight ratio does not apply to anti tank weaponry.