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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2013.12.29 18:47:00 -
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I will be starting a school for all people who wish to learn the ropes of being a logi. I will not focus on the slayer logis. I will be focusing on Logibros as that is the group with the smallest numbers.
The rate will be 1 mill per lesson. This is a per person rate. Corp CEOs must pay in full but individuals can either pay in full or we can set up a pyment plan.
Now some background about me. I have been playing since May of 2013. I have 10 million skill. All of my SP is in logistics. I run proto gear and am a dedicated logibro.
I hope you will try my program and thank you for your business.
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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fragmentedhackslash
FREE AGENTS LP
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Posted - 2013.12.30 04:14:00 -
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Trey Hardin wrote:I will be starting a school for all people who wish to learn the ropes of being a logi. I will not focus on the slayer logis. I will be focusing on Logibros as that is the group with the smallest numbers.
The rate will be 1 mill per lesson. This is a per person rate. Corp CEOs must pay in full but individuals can either pay in full or we can set up a pyment plan.
Now some background about me. I have been playing since May of 2013. I have 10 million skill. All of my SP is in logistics. I run proto gear and am a dedicated logibro. I play 9-11 every night Eastern standard time.
I hope you will try my program and thank you for your business.
Dude... really?
Pain is just weakness leaving your body.
Every day is a holiday.
Every meal is a feast.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
611
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Posted - 2013.12.30 13:41:00 -
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Lol at "teaching" logistics... by far the easiest role to learn. Skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. That's it. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
892
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:08:00 -
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I dunno if you have the equipment, plus there are enough schools in New Eden. Just in my opinion. The Learning Coalition, DUST University, and everything in between.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
47
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:15:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Lol at "teaching" logistics... by far the easiest role to learn. Skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. That's it.
Then you have never ran a logi that goes 7 and 2 with 4000 wp almost every match
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
47
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Posted - 2013.12.30 15:20:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:I dunno if you have the equipment, plus there are enough schools in New Eden. Just in my opinion. The Learning Coalition, DUST University, and everything in between.
I know that I don't have the resources of these larger corps but if I can help just one logi keep from becoming a slayer I have accoplished my goal
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.30 16:38:00 -
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Trey Hardin wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Lol at "teaching" logistics... by far the easiest role to learn. Skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. That's it. Then you have never ran a logi that goes 7 and 2 with 4000 wp almost every match
I've run a logi that goes 0/0/0 and gets 4000 WP in a match. IF you are getting that much WP from "almost every match", then you are doing so through uplink spam, nanohive spam, and revive/triage/guardian points.
Again, skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. The only "hard" part about the support logi role is the last bit - not getting killed. |
M3DIC 2U
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
107
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:09:00 -
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Trey Hardin wrote:Sana Rayya wrote:Lol at "teaching" logistics... by far the easiest role to learn. Skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. That's it. Then you have never ran a logi that goes 7 and 2 with 4000 wp almost every match
No, but I've run an advanced logi that goes 0/0 with 5000 wp multiple times. It's more in your teammates using you effectively than individual skills, though these do help. |
Mithridates VI
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:21:00 -
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What are your qualifications to teach logistics or are these limited to claims to be "a logi that goes 7 and 2 with 4000 wp almost every match"?
You seem to be framing this as a good deed on your part, turning logis away from becoming slayers. Are you trying to draw attention away from the 1m per lesson profit you stand to make?
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
47
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Posted - 2013.12.30 22:56:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:What are your qualifications to teach logistics or are these limited to claims to be "a logi that goes 7 and 2 with 4000 wp almost every match"?
You seem to be framing this as a good deed on your part, turning logis away from becoming slayers. Are you trying to draw attention away from the 1m per lesson profit you stand to make?
Know what screw the isk it's free
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2003
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Posted - 2013.12.31 11:31:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Lol at "teaching" logistics... by far the easiest role to learn. Skill into equipment, use equipment, don't get killed. That's it.
While you say it is easy to learn, I bet there are a hundred things you do without even thinking about it that make you successful which you take for granted, but a new player might not think of.
I see it all the time. In gaming. In rock climbing. In sports. People with a natural talent for something achieve success easily, but have no idea of what they are doing to achieve that success. It is why top end athletes video tape themselves, because they are not aware of what they are doing when they are doing it, so studying a video is the best way for them to understand what they are doing.
However there are some people who have the ability to break things down into their component parts to figure out how things work and how they would work best. While you will find some of these people in the top ranks, it is more common for these to be the people for whom it does not come easy or naturally. These are often the people who have to identify the most efficient ways of doing things and practice that to get a little bit better. The people who are constantly looking for any little thing that they can improve to try to catch up to the naturals. These are the people who become coaches and instructors.
I have not played Loti-Bro yet, but off the top of my head I can think of quite a few things that could be best taught in the field:
- When to rep and when to shoot.
- How to communicate with your Heavy.
- When to stick them and when it is not safe and you should let them bleed out.
- How to pull off a successful battle res under sniper fire.
- Where to place Uplinks.
- Where to place Nano Hives.
And that is just a short list from someone who has never done it. There is probably enough there for at least a 3 hour session.
I canGÇÖt say whether Trey Hardin is a good enough instructor to be worth 1 million ISK per session, as I donGÇÖt know him, but I expect there are people out there switching to the Logi-Bro role who would happily pay 1 million ISK for a session with a good Logi-Bro instructor.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.31 13:42:00 -
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Fox, most of what you're pointing out can't really be "taught". You just get a feel for it.
Same thing with remotes - you get a feel for when your trap will work and when it won't.
That kind of experience comes from playing the game, not from being shown how to do it.
This is my advice anyway; I've been a logi since Uprising and have 26.4 mil SP, 5.4 mil WP. Started as a support logi but became a slayer logi with the 1.4 repper nerf and rise of active scanning. Support logi is nice and good and gets you a lot of WP, but I don't do it unless no one else will. Because ultimately, slaying is the tougher part of this game, and I am a very good slayer. |
Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
47
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:37:00 -
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Thank you Fox those were some of the skills and knowledge I was going to teach but seeing as my trade, which I have worked for 9 months to hone, is "easy" I will no longer seek to teach and the price was flexible. The 1 mill was a starting point it would have gone down. BTW for everyone I have trained new players in every corp I have been in. This has made me patient and able to work with unskilled players.
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Trey Hardin
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
47
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Posted - 2013.12.31 17:43:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:ultimately, slaying is the tougher part of this game, and I am a very good slayer.
Oh slaying is tougher. That is rich since when have the harder fits to use been more widely used. Let me answer my own question NEVER. A slayer suit is easier to use. And if you want to slay use an assault suit. It's what there meant for. It is people like you that get the logis nerfed. When you miss use the suit true Logibros suffer the consequences too.
Veni Vidi Contrivi - I came I saw I Destroyed
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.12.31 18:32:00 -
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Slaying is tougher.
In playing support logi, it's easy to get 2k-3k WP just from equipment spam, reps, and guardian points.
It's a lot harder to get 2k-3k WP just from kills.
As to my use of the suit, I use the logi because when running solo, I have to provide for myself. That means scanning and nanohives. I also use REs to lure enemies into traps. If I had a squad at my back to take care of scanning/ammo then for sure, I'd run a proto assault suit, but that isn't always an option. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2006
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Posted - 2013.12.31 22:05:00 -
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I agree that it is easy to get a lot of War Points as a Logi. I donGÇÖt agree that just getting a lot of War Points makes you good.
I mostly play my Heavy these days. Recently I have been playing with a really good logi-bro. There is a difference.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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