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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:29:00 -
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MLT Scout
STD Weapon of choice
STD Flux Grenades
ADV(?) R-9 Uplinks
BASIC Cardiac Regulator
I think it's about 15,000 ISK (without BPOs) and it will flip a match in under 10 ticks if you can get a well-coordinated pair of them on the field before the wusses run to the hills in the redline.
Drop a link, hack, bust a move.
Drop the other link, get to a Supply Depot.
Switch to point defense fitting of choice and go back to help the blues that spawned in.
Lather, Rinse, Repeat as necessary.
Just don't be a lazy *****.
Alyssa Milano.
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Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
96
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:32:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Anything you can't counter with an AR is hated; scouts, scouts with CRs, scouts with shotguns, snipers. See where I'm going?
well..since i stopped using exclusivly SGs (since this game has way to few CQC opportunities/no real CQC-Maps) and started using CR (@lvl 4) and ARs (@ lvl 3) i get quite often hatemail (mostly butthurt proto pubstompers).
this game has so many tryhards and cheap tactics ezmode clowns hating everything that opposes them...it's not even funny -_-"
i mean why does some wimpy scout angers you so much? Ohhh nooo you couldnt get your perfect 20/0 score the 6th time in a row you proto scanner asslogi...what a drama.... |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
913
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:33:00 -
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snipers outside their redline - A okay working as intended(this includes tower and mountain snipers seriously its fine with me)
snipers inside their redline - scum of the earth, unless their team is redlined, in which case it's sorta understandable.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
332
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:33:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:I hunt snipers, I am a sniper.-That is all.
This I'd love my teams snipers if they were taking out the other snipers, never seems to be the case though.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
1371
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:36:00 -
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I always hated snipers here on Dust. It absolutely takes no skill to snipe and it's everyone's "isk gain" suit: it's not because you can't counter them, it's because it takes no skills, really.
Tank 514.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
559
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:42:00 -
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If they give scouts unlimited time in the enemy red line then I could care less. |
First Prophet
Minmatar Republic
1365
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:51:00 -
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The only good sniper is a teabagged one. :3
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Zero-Day
2167
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Posted - 2013.12.28 16:53:00 -
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i hate snipers because they kill me and nobody else.
even when theirs a frontline caldari with low armour
Storing Ammo- The Process Of Playing Dust 514 And Remembering LoL Moments, Then Rhyming About Them.
Soulja Ghostface
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negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
466
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Posted - 2013.12.28 17:03:00 -
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I only hate them if i can't get to them.
Dedicated Shotgun Scout
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.12.28 17:05:00 -
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Salviatino Maiano wrote:Tell me why snipers are so bad. outside of them "not being men" and "not meeting face to face" i would like to hear other reasons why people hate snipers...
I feel bad for snipers they have the hardest job. The map designs in DUST have no purpose no flow no ladders or elevators no real way to change levels without a dedicated dropship...
Then the only area they are given to really setup properly on the map is the redline. Scanners screw them over even if they did hide in a good spot on the map...
Map design screws snipers over and makes them use cowardly techniques. Basically CCP has made snipers a niche job where only a few can do it successfully... |
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
302
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Posted - 2013.12.28 17:11:00 -
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Snipers kinda have that carebear type vibe going on...just doing what's safe, comfortable, with their warm milk, cookies and elmo plush. As a logi I kind of do the same...trying to avoid direct confrontation while still exploiting the battlefield for points, but as a logi I have bigger balls and usually earn more war points and contribute more to the victory. |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
343
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Posted - 2013.12.28 17:19:00 -
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Salviatino Maiano wrote:Tell me why snipers are so bad. outside of them "not being men" and "not meeting face to face" i would like to hear other reasons why people hate snipers...
Why I hate "snipers"
1.) They don't help the team.
2.) They never communicate
3.) They are selfish players
4.) They are cowards.
5.) At best, they strive for the role 'battlefield pest'
6.) Studies have shown most "snipers" are racists
Who cares what some sniper has to say
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
914
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:15:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Salviatino Maiano wrote:Tell me why snipers are so bad. outside of them "not being men" and "not meeting face to face" i would like to hear other reasons why people hate snipers... Why I hate "snipers" 1.) They don't help the team. 2.) They never communicate 3.) They are selfish players 4.) They are cowards. 5.) At best, they strive for the role 'battlefield pest' 6.) Studies have shown most "snipers" are racists
I could argue the "don't help the team" bit.
occasionally a sniper will get in a position where the can lock down a null cannon and that is helpful.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
194
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:20:00 -
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Salviatino Maiano wrote:Tell me why snipers are so bad. outside of them "not being men" and "not meeting face to face" i would like to hear other reasons why people hate snipers...
I hate snipers because they always pick on me 
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Auris Lionesse
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:31:00 -
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I don't hate Snipers, I hate red line cowards who let their team lose so they can get four kills and zero deaths.
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Blind Nojoy
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
82
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:54:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Anything you can't counter with an AR is hated; scouts, scouts with CRs, scouts with shotguns, snipers. See where I'm going? Need I say more?
You've said it twice and it's dumb. This isn't about being countered by the "Godly"AR...the problem is a player can sit in the redline, unreachable by the enemy, and also possibly undenderable to the enemy. Plinking players with a 350 shot per damage super scoped weapon.
Redline war points should be eliminated, plain and simple.
I have no problem with real snipers. I like having one on my team. There are few that come to mind like sleepy zan, or Jath in my corp. Guys that can also kill you with an SMG when you go looking, because they aren't abusing a broken mechanic..
When I start getting hit by too many snipers I will even get my sniper rifle and start counter sniping. And I like run and gun sniping because when they see me with my sniper rifle and think "easy kill" they get to meet my m-209 or ishukone smg.
TL;DR
Sniping is fine. Redline sniping (or tanking or anything) is a load of bullsh*t.
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Suanar Daranaus
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:56:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Snipers will be hated in all games no matter what.
The difference with Dust is, it's a risk/reward system. And snipers have low risk, high reward. The Thale is the most seen officer weapon in PUBs.
Not to mention redline snipers.
Snipers are hated in all games. They REALLY suck in real life too!
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Blind Nojoy
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
82
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:03:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Salviatino Maiano wrote:Tell me why snipers are so bad. outside of them "not being men" and "not meeting face to face" i would like to hear other reasons why people hate snipers... Why I hate "snipers" 1.) They don't help the team. 2.) They never communicate 3.) They are selfish players 4.) They are cowards. 5.) At best, they strive for the role 'battlefield pest' 6.) Studies have shown most "snipers" are racists
I think this is the majority of snipers who give the whole class a bad name. In general I agree with this. But having a real sniper (you only need one really) can lock down an objective and provide over watch.
But yeah when I join a pub and see six or seven guys on my team all clustered in our mountains, makes me with is was FW so I could go kill them. If you have more than two snipers on a team against a good opponent, you are going to lose. Like someone said a few days ago...whoever has the most snipers, loses! |
Wrex Valkarien
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
1
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:48:00 -
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As a fellow sniper, nothing brings me greater joy than killing redline snipers, i snipe from the field of battle and my kdr will still be 3-1. I average around 8-12 kills per match while still being under the constant threat from infantry. Redline snipers are cowards who bring nothing to the battlefield. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
572
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:50:00 -
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Proto redline snipers with 1500 EHP
Assassination is my thing.
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DildoMcnutz
Science For Death
380
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:03:00 -
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Now this doesn't apply to all snipers but why do i hate 90% of the snipers i see? One of the most useful things a sniper can do imo is to counter snipe, yet they never do it, its like all snipers have an agreement to ignore each other whilst sitting high up in the mountains firing into the "bowl" at all the frontline infantry most likely because they won't change fits to deal with them. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
641
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:06:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Because when we get taken out by anything else in the game we can go to our fittings or change up our strategy to counter them. Redline snipers have no counter and so are immensely frustrating to players.
The ideal situation would be to force snipers out of the redline so we can outmanoeuvre them (At great risk and expense of time crossing the ground to get to them) so we can turn the tables on them in a balanced game mechanic which doesn't allow players to essentially be untouchable while they kill the opposition with impunity.
That is why we hate snipers You seriously can't come up with a single fit or tactic to kill a redline sniper?
Depends. On the whole the 2 main tactics are a suicide run into the redline or get another sniper rifle and try to outclass them. Countering with a suicide run is not sustainable and counter-sniping is not a genuine counter as your matching equal weapon effectiveness rather than using your strengths to your advantage so the balance is in your favour.
If I encounter a Heavy I can still take them down in my scout suit by wearing it down or by constantly repositioning. I don't have to resort to strapping on a heavy suit and going toe to toe with them.
Countering by responding in kind is not a counter. Besides since they have the positioning they can either take you out first or retreat the moment you start firing
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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ugg reset
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
427
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:19:00 -
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I miss the snipers. someone needs to show the rail rifle who's boss.
quando omni flunkus, moritati
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1842
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:22:00 -
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Suanar Daranaus wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Snipers will be hated in all games no matter what.
The difference with Dust is, it's a risk/reward system. And snipers have low risk, high reward. The Thale is the most seen officer weapon in PUBs.
Not to mention redline snipers. Snipers are hated in all games. They REALLY suck in real life too!
I've been saying "F-ing snipers!" since CS. I hate the AWP.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Onesimus Tarsus
728
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:23:00 -
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I have never had a sniper tell me anything useful, because they are myopically staring down a tube from a mile out trying to pick off people hacking objectives. But, at least sniping keeps them away from real weapons and out of the way.
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
2322
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:28:00 -
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Snipers are fairly annoying, but they are just fine.
I dislike them being in my team because most of them are useless. The only useful sniper is an active and competent counter-sniper.
Taking down some random people at random times does not really help the team.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Jane Madson
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
275
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:34:00 -
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As a heavy, snippers can be annoying but mostly harmless, but when i start getting shot from redline snippers, i have a adv. medium frame with proto snipper rifle that i will change into to kill them if the match outcome is decided. Its quite fun head shotting some fool hinding behind the redline. 
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.(Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us)
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1073
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:37:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Snipers are fairly annoying, but they are just fine.
I dislike them being in my team because most of them are useless. The only useful sniper is an active and competent counter-sniper.
Taking down some random people at random times does not really help the team.
we are in full agreement here. Most snipers can be countered with militia kit because they are used to being ignored.
There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
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Jane Madson
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
275
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:41:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I have never had a sniper tell me anything useful, because they are myopically staring down a tube from a mile out trying to pick off people hacking objectives. But, at least sniping keeps them away from real weapons and out of the way.
I have, but then again they are not really snipping, they just survy the battlefield and call enemy locations and equipment. Maybe defend a single objective from being hacked by the random redberry. But a single snipper can not defend an objective from a squad. If see a snipper defending, i place my fat suit between them and the player hacking and absorb all they can give.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.(Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us)
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
728
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:49:00 -
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The real list of broken ass sniper mechanics & why we hate them-
Redline snipers are unreachable, countered only by sniping back inside THEIR range.
Sniping is too damn easy, no bullet drop, just point and shoot for high damage.
Snipers are often too hard to detect, from broken hit indicators, to multiple snipers, to not rendering.
Headglitching is actually still possible(literally unable to be fired back upon by your target, easily done with minmatar medium suits[have the smallest head] few people TRULY headglitch however, you can easily kill people who attempt sitting behind a hill but dont know how its REALLY done.)
Snipers only counter is itself, just like tanks its incredibly broken.
Snipers require you completely go out of your way to counter them, meaning you waste time and are completely useless to your team during that time.
Snipers are too damn common, 1-2 is all thats needed in matches, yet scrubs who suck turn to sniping because they dont wanna lose their STD gear( these are not real snipers, they're the scrubs who use garbage gear for sniping and go 2-5/2 every match. |
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