DUST Search - Anyone here using gaming TVs?

CHANCEtheChAn wrote:

N1ck Comeau wrote:

Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger.

Anyone use gaming TV's here?

Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming?

Thanks.

I switched from using a 42 inch Samsung badass LCD TV from 2009-2012
To now using the Sony 24 inch 0 latency PS3D 2012-Present

The difference in gameplay is LITERALLY more than a second reaction time between the TVs...
And in an FPS that's huge.
The problem with bigger TVs that say they are "Meant" for gaming is that its usually not true.
These TVs usually cost more and play your games at a faster and smoother rate than other TVs BUT because the TVs are so damn huge it takes longer times to take your video game picture and spread it out across the television, that is why many professional gamers play on smaller TVs. The difference is literally on a smaller TV moving a joystick not being able to notice even a sliver of delay between the action, and going plug up to a bigger TV and counting the time between you moving a joystick and action occurring onscreen.

If you plan on going onto a TV anything above 28 inches to play your games on your immediately at a disadvantage the second you turn on the controller, so if your going for a TV that big be SURE it says 0 latency on the box, and be prepared to pay an extra hundred or few...

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N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1689	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:17:00 - [1] - Quote Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7129	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:19:00 - [2] - Quote I've not noticed a difference. Of more concern is the internet connection and game stability - one of which Dust doesn't exactly have in spades, so I haven't seen much of a difference there. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 592	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:21:00 - [3] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. "gaming" tvs have slightly different settings, most of wich are possable with a regular TV, while also having a higher scnreen refresh rate ( i forget what they call it) for the most part the difference is negligable, and it provides no real advantage. it just basically makes fast paced action appear smoother, like how action scenes in movies are shot with a higher framerate to increase the realisim of the shot. its not worth the added cost IMO unless your getting it for the same price as a compairible non gaming tv
mollerz Minja Scouts 1448	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:22:00 - [4] - Quote Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies.
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1689	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:22:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I've not noticed a difference. Of more concern is the internet connection and game stability - one of which Dust doesn't exactly have in spades, so I haven't seen much of a difference there. I'm assuming you use a gaming TV? My tv, is pretty bad for gaming. Slow reaction time. this new tv might be even faster then double, probably closer to triple. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1689	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:23:00 - [6] - Quote mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1689	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:24:00 - [7] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. "gaming" tvs have slightly different settings, most of wich are possable with a regular TV, while also having a higher scnreen refresh rate ( i forget what they call it) for the most part the difference is negligable, and it provides no real advantage. it just basically makes fast paced action appear smoother, like how action scenes in movies are shot with a higher framerate to increase the realisim of the shot. its not worth the added cost IMO unless your getting it for the same price as a compairible non gaming tv 400$ is the price. Amazing boxing deal sale. also, my tv has no fancy settings, i checked. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 592	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:24:00 - [8] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. its true, dust really isnt a game that uses alot of those extra bits and pieces that make up a gaming tv...
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1689	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:26:00 - [9] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. its true, dust really isnt a game that uses alot of those extra bits and pieces that make up a gaming tv... not like it's the only game i play anyways. Minmatar Assault. Confused on what weapons i should use :/
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 592	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:28:00 - [10] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. its true, dust really isnt a game that uses alot of those extra bits and pieces that make up a gaming tv... not like it's the only game i play anyways. they are awesome TVs for blue rays
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 527	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:29:00 - [11] - Quote No point for me as I have a real slow Internet connection, 1.5 mb max, and I don't think the frame rate for dust is particularly high. However, I hope you do see an improvement.
DAMIOS82 ACME SPECIAL FORCES 73	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:29:00 - [12] - Quote Would it even be worth it. Its not like dust uses the full hd 1080i or 1080p of tv's now. One day perhaps, but imo now it would just be a waist of your money.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1448	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:30:00 - [13] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. its true, dust really isnt a game that uses alot of those extra bits and pieces that make up a gaming tv... for sure. But it's good when I 3D model
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2487	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:33:00 - [14] - Quote DAMIOS82 wrote: Would it even be worth it. Its not like dust uses the full hd 1080i or 1080p of tv's now. One day perhaps, but imo now it would just be a waist of your money. Most ps3 games don't run in 1080i or 1080p.
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 41	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 - [15] - Quote I use an ASUS VG 278H Computer monitor (27 inch built in next gen 3D HDR) Look up the specs. Enough said. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:39:00 - [16] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. Some games are WORSE on good tvs. A good example is the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed. On a shoddy tv, it's a-okay. But on a good tv, your eyes will bleed from the ridiculous screen tearing. Dunno what it's like for DUST.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4322	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. wit 4k? you'll just be seeing a turd with more pixel. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Cpl Foster USMC The Defiants-Team 6 393	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:45:00 - [18] - Quote I've got two 36" TV's in my game room....1 for PS3, 1 for whatever sport I can find on cable...at least that was the plan... now it's for whatever my wife can find on cable.... but at least I can still game as much as I want ....we both get to be in the same room...and I have an excuse for wearing a headset and not listening to whichever Kardashian is having 1st world problems..... as for "gaming tv"...?......aren't they all....... "if you wanna be one, ask one..."
fragmentedhackslash FREE AGENTS LP 41	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:46:00 - [19] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. Some games are WORSE on good tvs. A good example is the PS3 version of Assassin's Creed. On a shoddy tv, it's a-okay. But on a good tv, your eyes will bleed from the ridiculous screen tearing. Dunno what it's like for DUST. DUST is beautiful on a computing monitor. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
Gisala Krios ShootBreakStab 1	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:52:00 - [20] - Quote I use a P2370HD, it's a TV monitor from Samsung and it has an overdrive circuit that reduces response time to 5ms.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 566	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:32:00 - [21] - Quote DUST doesn't even hit 30 FPS when alone in a field anymore... so no it doesn't help much.. anymore. If you have one with a persistent crosshair display... then yes. Because the crosshairs in DUST are terrible and are way more dynamic then any bullet spread or recoil mechanics are in DUST...
CrotchGrab 360 1165	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:43:00 - [22] - Quote "gaming monitors" have high refresh rates, typically 120hz or 240hz. The frame rate of this game is probably 30FPS. Even if it's 60FPS you're not going to gain ANYTHING by using a "gaming monitor" or TV whatever, than if you were to use a 60hz display. it's marketing, it's numbers, it's ****, it's a waste of money. Stop buying this crap so it can disappear. They throw numbers at you and slap the "gaming" tag on it just to trick you into thinking you're getting something special.
CrotchGrab 360 1165	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:46:00 - [23] - Quote gbghg wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. with 4k? you'll just be seeing a turd with more pixel. and looking at 1080p as if it were 360p whilst wondering, why did i buy something like this when only a handful of cameras in the world are capable of filming in 4K? 3D is **** which needs to die in a fire. 4K is the biggest waste of money I have ever seen.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4323	Posted - 2013.12.27 01:28:00 - [24] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: gbghg wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. with 4k? you'll just be seeing a turd with more pixel. and looking at 1080p as if it were 360p whilst wondering, why did i buy something like this when only a handful of cameras in the world are capable of filming in 4K? 3D is **** which needs to die in a fire. 4K is the biggest waste of money I have ever seen. currently, give it 5-10 years and the tech will get cheaper and become more available. Lv 4 forum warrior Bringer of Bacon Knight of AMV's
Gisala Krios ShootBreakStab 1	Posted - 2013.12.27 18:10:00 - [25] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: "gaming monitors" have high refresh rates, typically 120hz or 240hz. The frame rate of this game is probably 30FPS. Even if it's 60FPS you're not going to gain ANYTHING by using a "gaming monitor" or TV whatever, than if you were to use a 60hz display. it's marketing, it's numbers, it's ****, it's a waste of money. Stop buying this crap so it can disappear. They throw numbers at you and slap the "gaming" tag on it just to trick you into thinking you're getting something special. Gaming monitors don't base their "gaming" capability on refresh rates, they base it on reduced response time in order to combat input lag, at least that's what I looked for, that and a DVB-T receiver. The 120Hz or 240Hz feature you mention is either to support 3D or to make motion look smoother by buffering each frame, it doesn't help with gaming and can some times hinder it. Now, about gaming TVs, never owned one in the traditional sense (32-40+ inches, fancy apps etc), but given that for TV and movies, response time can be higher without any ghosting effect, unless it's a fast panel or it can reach 5-7ms response time with overdrive, there won't be an actual difference, just a bigger screen to look at.
ladwar Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 1933	Posted - 2013.12.27 18:14:00 - [26] - Quote yea i use this one http://www.amazon.com/MOBILE-GAMING-SYSTEM/dp/B00CV7YTWK/ref=lp_3445634011_1_14?srs=3445634011&ie=UTF8&qid=1388167907&sr=8-14 its great. Level 2 Forum Warrior, retired vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
Blind Nojoy G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 82	Posted - 2013.12.27 18:36:00 - [27] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: "gaming monitors" have high refresh rates, typically 120hz or 240hz. The frame rate of this game is probably 30FPS. Even if it's 60FPS you're not going to gain ANYTHING by using a "gaming monitor" or TV whatever, than if you were to use a 60hz display. it's marketing, it's numbers, it's ****, it's a waste of money. Stop buying this crap so it can disappear. They throw numbers at you and slap the "gaming" tag on it just to trick you into thinking you're getting something special. Agree to disagree. Though some of what you say is accurate, it's on the consumer to do research for what they are going to buy. I wouldn't blindly buy anything just because it says "gaming" on the box. Caveat Emptor, as they say. It's not the refresh rate, it's the response time , like someone said. And the difference is MASSIVE in comparison to playing on an old display or large TV. No , you don't need to buy a "gaming" display to get great performance. Anything with a decent response time of under 5ms, you can find samsungs or or sonys with this, you just need to do a little research. Whereas a "gaming" monitor company knows you are looking for this, and all the models meet certain specifications.
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 13	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:13:00 - [28] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. I switched from using a 42 inch Samsung badass LCD TV from 2009-2012 To now using the Sony 24 inch 0 latency PS3D 2012-Present The difference in gameplay is LITERALLY more than a second reaction time between the TVs... And in an FPS that's huge. The problem with bigger TVs that say they are "Meant" for gaming is that its usually not true. These TVs usually cost more and play your games at a faster and smoother rate than other TVs BUT because the TVs are so damn huge it takes longer times to take your video game picture and spread it out across the television, that is why many professional gamers play on smaller TVs. The difference is literally on a smaller TV moving a joystick not being able to notice even a sliver of delay between the action, and going plug up to a bigger TV and counting the time between you moving a joystick and action occurring onscreen. If you plan on going onto a TV anything above 28 inches to play your games on your immediately at a disadvantage the second you turn on the controller, so if your going for a TV that big be SURE it says 0 latency on the box, and be prepared to pay an extra hundred or few... Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 155	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:57:00 - [29] - Quote It's not refresh rate (measured in Hz) but latency (measured in ms) that's the problem with normal TVs. Depending on your original TV, going to a gaming TV could provide a significant difference in gaming experience -- less apparent video lag.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:41:00 - [30] - Quote fragmentedhackslash wrote: I use an ASUS VG 278H Computer monitor (27 inch built in next gen 3D HDR) Look up the specs. Enough said. I have the Asus VE278,the non-3D monitor,and man is it boss! I've been playing on monitors for a few years now,and I just can't go back to bigger TVs.Asus makes monitors as good as any TV out there for gaming.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 530	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:49:00 - [31] - Quote CHANCEtheChAn wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Hey. I'm picking up a 49" gaming television tomorrow. Double the reaction time of my current TV and bigger. Anyone use gaming TV's here? Notice a big difference between normal tv's and TV's enhanced for gaming? Thanks. I switched from using a 42 inch Samsung badass LCD TV from 2009-2012 To now using the Sony 24 inch 0 latency PS3D 2012-Present The difference in gameplay is LITERALLY more than a second reaction time between the TVs... And in an FPS that's huge. The problem with bigger TVs that say they are "Meant" for gaming is that its usually not true. These TVs usually cost more and play your games at a faster and smoother rate than other TVs BUT because the TVs are so damn huge it takes longer times to take your video game picture and spread it out across the television, that is why many professional gamers play on smaller TVs. The difference is literally on a smaller TV moving a joystick not being able to notice even a sliver of delay between the action, and going plug up to a bigger TV and counting the time between you moving a joystick and action occurring onscreen. If you plan on going onto a TV anything above 28 inches to play your games on your immediately at a disadvantage the second you turn on the controller, so if your going for a TV that big be SURE it says 0 latency on the box, and be prepared to pay an extra hundred or few... Most professional gamers play on monitors,not TVs. Anything 2ms and under with a contrast ration of 10,000,000 and higher will out perform just about any large TV for gaming.Sure,you have more settings on the TVs,but I wouldn't trade my $230 27" Asus for any larger sized TV.
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1700	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:50:00 - [32] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Of more concern is the internet connection and game stability - one of which Dust doesn't exactly have in spades, so I haven't seen much of a difference there. Agreed. I game on a connection that runs 100 down and 60 up. This makes no difference for me compared to when I am playing on a connection that runs 1 down and .3 up. Dust still performs like crap. The post spawn latency and latency during loading times along with market interactions is awful. So about those vehicle locks...
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2595	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:54:00 - [33] - Quote Latency is the single most important factor in a FPS. You can learn to compensate for display lag on a TV through practice, though it's nice not to have to. You can't compensate for network lag. If your packets don't get to the server before your opponent's do, he kills you and you get a blue flash of his shields painted by your local PS3 while the server declares it a miss. The throughput of your connection doesn't matter because DUST isn't a big bandwidth user. It's all about latency.
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 397	Posted - 2013.12.27 21:57:00 - [34] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: mollerz wrote: Dust just won't take advantage of the beast that is going to be your TV. Maybe one day it will grow into it tho! I posted about looking into getting a 4K TV in the locker room but got no replies. a 4K tv? damn. those things are fancy. I'm sure i'll notice a slight difference. I picked up an asis gaming monitor, not a tv, 32", huge difference. CEO Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"

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