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rretri bution
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:36:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game
because they are new to the game and that is all they have, let them contribute, not all noobs revive people in the middle of a firefight only some of them do, the others wait till its clear then they revive people, it helps those with armor repping modules on their suits, and other suits can get to cover or a supply depot.
but no your right, lets take that away from them, in fact take all the militia gear away from noobs, so they can only melee people, then no one new will play this game, the community will not grow it will die and this game along with it.
Everyone has this attitude, instead of teaching and helping the noobs they want to crush them and make the game harder and more unbalanced for them than it already is, they forget that eveyone and I mean EVERYONE WAS A NOOB WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED. |
Cass Caul
636
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:46:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:dont blame the tools, blame the wielder. Surprise, surprise. The beached whale supports a mechanic with no way to stop greifing from revive-spamming. Always count on the one who told their own alliance about how to AWOX in PC without a way to counter it before anyone knew it was possible.
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
424
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:56:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Damn that noob for even trying to help you, he deserved his death.
Go out and Proto stomp every single noob you meet and maybe we can drive them away from this game.
NERF NOOBS!! Give the medic suit a militia repair tool. At least they can't ruin someones day with that
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3317
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:00:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Galvan Nized wrote:Damn that noob for even trying to help you, he deserved his death.
Go out and Proto stomp every single noob you meet and maybe we can drive them away from this game.
NERF NOOBS!! Give the medic suit a militia repair tool. At least they can't ruin someones day with that Awww man I already said that :'I
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1216
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:00:00 -
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Injector over STD level are not worth for a logi, i prefer to have better hives and rep tool than a better injector.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3317
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Posted - 2013.12.27 23:02:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Injector over STD level are not worth for a logi, i prefer to have better hives and rep tool than a better injector. But, with an Advanced or Proto, the person you brought up at least has a chance.
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
216
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:36:00 -
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A militia nanite injector revive should give you 15 war points, advanced 35 points and proto needle 50 points.
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution
260
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Posted - 2013.12.29 09:20:00 -
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Still not seeing the need for this injector. Why put infinite amounts of it on a starter fit? That's simply not a very good idea. So many times I'm revived an that moment I see my hero overrun by the same tanks that got me. He shouldn't have that power...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
585
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Posted - 2013.12.29 09:38:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game
You shouldn't get a "Death" credit until you officially loose your "Clone" When your "Downed" the attacker should get credit for the kill. But you shouldn't get a "Death" until your clone is officially terminated.
It would solve all Nanite Injector issues with people not wanting to get picked up... would actually encourage people to ask to be picked up as many times as possible UNTIL their clone is terminated.. as it would save your Suit ISK investment.
And it would create a whole gameplay dynamic where people will shoot the recently "Downed" Mercenary to make sure they are truly dead.
It's what has been asked for since replication. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
745
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:09:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game
What if they had just killed the guy that killed you, thus cleaning the area, then after reviving you, we're planning to switch over to the repair tool and heal you the rest of the way? Not very considerate are we? Besides, on nearly every suit I have, I have some form of self repair. As long as you don't wake me up in front of some dude shooting me, I won't complain.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1226
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Posted - 2013.12.29 11:32:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:shaman oga wrote:Injector over STD level are not worth for a logi, i prefer to have better hives and rep tool than a better injector. But, with an Advanced or Proto, the person you brought up at least has a chance. Only armor tankers and only with proto, that cost a lot of resources. I fit injectors only if i have a rep tool, another thing is that i get more wp for repping if you have less hp, so imo there is no point to use better injectors on a logi. Assault is different, they have only 1 equip, they can only rez or rep, it's better for them to heal their target as much as they can, if they decide to use injectors.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1455
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Posted - 2013.12.29 19:47:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game They exist in the game so I can choose who gets the 30% or 80% rep on revive because I carry both.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
2478
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Posted - 2013.12.29 23:52:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:jenza aranda wrote:dont blame the tools, blame the wielder. Surprise, surprise. The beached whale supports a mechanic with no way to stop greifing from revive-spamming. Always count on the one who told their own alliance about how to AWOX in PC without a way to counter it before anyone knew it was possible. /sigh look kids! another idiot who dont check their facts.
Both your statements in this post are too stupid for me to warrant a reply.
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
203
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Posted - 2013.12.30 00:00:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game It's so newberries and blueberries can get endless WP without having any skills what so ever! I absolutely hate being revived by them as well. Removing them from the game would just be a step back though. The "accept/decline" revive function would be a more progressive step. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
421
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Posted - 2013.12.30 00:15:00 -
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A better idea would be to make total wp gain be the same for armor repair regardless of how that armor was repaired. So using a militia needle and repping ith a tool should award the same amount of wp as using a proto needle and repping with a tool.
Needles should award wp based on the percentage of health revived. for instance, lets say 20 wp for every 10% armor on revive.
militia/standard needles would give 60 wp
advanced would give 100
proto would give 160
rep tools would award 20wp for every 10% of armor repped.
Numbers can change, but the idea is sound. |
lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
294
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Posted - 2013.12.30 00:33:00 -
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People say this is what the 'Call for help' button was for. We shouldn't get the icon to revive unless called on, but ultimately, there are always gonna be exceptions in situations. I think it would be better to have the option to turn OFF the indicator. An immediate, just let me die button.
I never carry an injector without a rep tool unless I'm on a scout dropping DUs. Usually I die before I can help anyone anyways.
If I do see a downed player, I scan the area first, even if its just with my EYES. But there are going to be times where a good red hides well. For that, I'm sorry blue.
I've had players who rushed into a firefight yell at me over the mic to revive them, even tho there are 6 reds shooting down the lane. Not helpful. Learn to use cover.
I've revived players that then stood there. I guess they assumed 'no one rez's anymore, I'm going to go get a drink' or something. I've melee'd these players (in pubs) to try and get them back into play in case they weren't paying attention. However, most of the time, those people die immediately regardless of my lvl rep tool due to be afk.
Also, for newly spawned players, sometimes we just don't know that person was killed by a sniper and the deadee can't get to the exit screen fast enough.
Besides that annoying fecking icon that stays even when a body goes away, I think all that need implemented is an immediate bleed out option.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Elmo Love U
514 Mile High Club
553
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:09:00 -
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Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game LMAO. Mine is BPO which means I reuse the same dirty needle. I can get 200Wp reviving one merc and charging his armour. I make NO ISKIES for revives.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
94
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:12:00 -
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the times when that noobs mlt nanite injector saved your sorry ass a proto suit and proto gun/complex mods your useing.
i dont see any problem with the nanite injector. its a cheap way to get your sorry ass back up and save you a suit/fitting.
plus it gets a quick few points for reviving your sorry ass. you died. so i was kind and picked your crappy proto suit up. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2013.12.31 16:18:00 -
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why give Dengru an infinite supply of this useless posting? Whenever Dengru failposts, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that Dengru. I am so tired of reading Denposts these damn Dengrus. A lot of this is the result of no kick Dengru feature, but still douchebag and dickhead Dengrus should be removed from game
Seriously, what a douche. |
Dengru
Fatal Absolution
266
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Posted - 2014.01.01 01:17:00 -
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Useless posting? My shitposting is lethal?
It might help if militia injectors could only revive a person once. There's no resson why these guys should repeatedly revive the same person with that thing. You hav to take the power out of their hands.
Also, since I've learned how many people use these injectors so they can farm more WP with reptools, I've started shooting people who rep me after reviving me with what are clearly garbage injectors.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
387
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Posted - 2014.01.01 01:21:00 -
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I sure like getting rezzed, even if it's a walmart rezz, when I'm using my specialist pro scrambler rifle.
Amarr LP is hard to come by y'know.
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender Public Disorder.
297
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Posted - 2014.01.01 01:23:00 -
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Elmo Love U wrote:Dengru wrote:why give noobs an infinite supply of this useless garbage? Whenever someone revives me with one, and im not gunned down in that same instant, I kill that person. I am so tired of being revived by these damn things. A lot of this is the result of no Accept Revival feature, but still MLT and STD injectors should be removed from game LMAO. Mine is BPO which means I reuse the same dirty needle. I can get 200Wp reviving one merc and charging his armour. I make NO ISKIES for revives.
I also have my bpo injector, but I carry the proto injector on my proto suit. For pubs, you get my dirty reused needle.
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3359
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Posted - 2014.01.01 02:10:00 -
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KDR is for douchebags, anyway.
We used to have a time machine
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Lorhak Gannarsein
952
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Posted - 2014.01.01 02:37:00 -
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I don't really like being rezzed at all, even with a proto stick, unless t's my heavy. Reason being that if I die, I can come back in with fresh equipment slots!
PRO tanker and proud.
Lentarr Legionary.
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2537
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Posted - 2014.01.01 02:55:00 -
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The only people defending this tactic are the people that lack the ability to earn WPs in a skillful way. As someone who used to run logistics 24/7, I can say it isn't hard to look in a 360 before going to revive someone. Plus, noobs that revive without a rep tool have no respectable opinion on this topic.
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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Dengru
Fatal Absolution
347
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Posted - 2014.01.04 15:18:00 -
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I agree, anyone defending this is a sad player. How important is it to you that you get WP that you'll use those crap injectors? Coming in my thread shitposting about KDR while greedily inflating your WP. It's reallly sad.
With all the vehicle spam, it really highlights why these need to be removed. I die, and see some guy run up to me, while two planes circle around just waiting to rain down missiles, and there's nothing I can do.
There are many ways to stop people from being trolls and WP whores, but the most immediate way stop noobs from getting tunnel vision is to remove militia injectors and medic suit from game. No good comes from it. That is the worst item in the game and something needs to be done. It is such a joke, they are like bad AI...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
679
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:21:00 -
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Dengru wrote:I agree, anyone defending this is a sad player. How important is it to you that you get WP that you'll use those crap injectors? Coming in my thread shitposting about KDR while greedily inflating your WP. It's reallly sad.
With all the vehicle spam, it really highlights why these need to be removed. I die, and see some guy run up to me, while two planes circle around just waiting to rain down missiles, and there's nothing I can do.
There are many ways to stop people from being trolls and WP whores, but the most immediate way stop noobs from getting tunnel vision is to remove militia injectors and medic suit from game. No good comes from it. That is the worst item in the game and something needs to be done. It is such a joke, they are like bad AI...
If you aren't dieing until your clone is terminated none of this matters. Picking you up will be just one of those butt clenching engagements where you have to kill your attacker or hide before or if you go down again.
Fights with a couple people and dedicated logi could be a 2 minutes dance around the objective the fun this could create. |
demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder.
297
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Posted - 2014.01.04 16:30:00 -
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no get ******, i am not spending an ass load of isk on a decent injector just to get blown up/sniped/stabbed while picking up your sorry ass, learn to pre move while being injected, you can actually move while youre being injected your sprite just shows you in the same location tldr im not spending 300k on a suit to revive a random when i can do it with a free one |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
3575
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Posted - 2014.01.04 18:38:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:no get ******, i am not spending an ass load of isk on a decent injector just to get blown up/sniped/stabbed while picking up your sorry ass, learn to pre move while being injected, you can actually move while youre being injected your sprite just shows you in the same location tldr im not spending 300k on a suit to revive a random when i can do it with a free one If you're worried about getting sniped, then why run an injector in the first place?
I don't understand your logic
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