DUST Search - Request For Remote Explosives

Jillic wrote:

I jihad jeep regularly. Believe it or not, it does take a smattering of skill.
First, you have to get close to the thing. Not as easy as it sounds, especially if the tankers KNOW there's a jihadi on the field.
Your driving around in a flimsy plastic car COVERED in explosives (or at least I do), and it only takes usually two good hits to blow your ass into ash. Infantry can blow the RE's with wild fire, and two mean your a goner. Then when your actually within ramming range, you gotta pray it's hardeners are on cooldown, or that he doesn't notice you and pop them. On top of all that, there's the distinct chance that your pathing will screw up and you'll drive over the tank leaving you with your ass facing his gun barrel.

Yes, suicide bombing isn't a particularly glamorous job, but with the current nerfs to AV, it's what I got. Plus, you can pull off some amazingly hilarious kills. I nailed two Maddies with one jeep the other day. Or the time I drove over a Soma, ran into the proxies he was sitting on, which blew my jeep, which blew my RE's, which blew the Soma. Twisted

And now for the MATHS!

Theoretically, if one is willing to spend Aurum, one should be able to throw down 24 RE's on a single LAV, this in turn comes out to 36,000 points of damage. If you can squeeze the Republic LP versions onto the LAV at the same time, this number rises to 36 RE's spewing out a hilarious 54,000 damage. Now, I haven't gotten the opportunity to test this out because my skill in splody stuff isn't high enough, but judging from the fact that I can stack 10 RE's on my LAV (Aurum and ISK basic RE's (3 each) and Aurum ADV(4)) I would assume that it's possible. And if it is, well, Twisted

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MRBH1997 Knights Of Ender Public Disorder. 56	Posted - 2013.12.26 08:40:00 - [1] - Quote I agree with CCP making remote explosives sticky for it made no senses for then to slide around like a nano hive. But I do not like the fact that you can place remotes on a friendly LAV or your own and just ran a tank to kill it. It's sad that so many people are resorting to this cheap tactic because they only want an easy way to kill a tank. How remotes should work is that they remain sticky but can not be placed on friendly vehicles. Only sticky to props and terrain and enemy vehicles. This would keep them effective and remove the issue of people spamming them on lavs to ram into tanks for easy kills. It will also hopefully push people to actually trying to use AV instead of using this remote tactic with lavs. CEO of Knights of Ender, Pro Jack of All Traits Corporation Website: http://koe.shivtr.com Skype: MRBH1997
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 411	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:01:00 - [2] - Quote I've never been a fan of jihad jeeps but they are nearly a necessity right now, it's one of the few things that tanks actually have to fear. Fix AV adding in both EMPs and webifiers and then jihad jeeps could be dealt with.
Tonka Legacy THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED Dark Taboo 9	Posted - 2013.12.26 09:10:00 - [3] - Quote MRBH1997 wrote: I agree with CCP making remote explosives sticky for it made no senses for then to slide around like a nano hive. But I do not like the fact that you can place remotes on a friendly LAV or your own and just ran a tank to kill it. It's sad that so many people are resorting to this cheap tactic because they only want an easy way to kill a tank. How remotes should work is that they remain sticky but can not be placed on friendly vehicles. Only sticky to props and terrain and enemy vehicles. This would keep them effective and remove the issue of people spamming them on lavs to ram into tanks for easy kills. It will also hopefully push people to actually trying to use AV instead of using this remote tactic with lavs. Due to the nerfing of most AV weapons (especially the swarm launcher) people are using it as a alternative to destroying tanks. And besides, when they suicide bomb, they are losing their dropsuit, vehicle, and adding another death worsening their k/d. also, them hunting tanks with lavs means that they are only helping their teams. With the outbreak of tanks now, there had to be some way to make tankers thing twice before spawning another tank. Its just a tactic really. It takes a miracle and/or a very skilled AV specialist to even damage a militia tank without a tank, installation, or proto forge gun. So I...that dude just blew me up with his lav in one hit...DAMN IT!
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.12.26 12:37:00 - [4] - Quote MRBH1997 wrote: I agree with CCP making remote explosives sticky for it made no senses for then to slide around like a nano hive. But I do not like the fact that you can place remotes on a friendly LAV or your own and just ran a tank to kill it. It's sad that so many people are resorting to this cheap tactic because they only want an easy way to kill a tank. How remotes should work is that they remain sticky but can not be placed on friendly vehicles. Only sticky to props and terrain and enemy vehicles. This would keep them effective and remove the issue of people spamming them on lavs to ram into tanks for easy kills. It will also hopefully push people to actually trying to use AV instead of using this remote tactic with lavs. Welcome to New Eden. Mercs will use any tools at their disposale. And Jihad jeeps are indeed very creative, especially considering that there's no alternatives, except maybe for scouts in blind spots. That's what makes the difference between a good and a great game. A good game can be broken, a great game gets even better when you try to break it. I would not want to lose this kind of creative freedom. Actually, the really funny part about your post is that you complain about Jihad jeeps as if they were a cheap tactic... In reality, they are a huge investment to the attacker, in contrast to countering your HAV with another HAV. I would say the tactic is about as valid as sniping.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 310	Posted - 2013.12.26 12:55:00 - [5] - Quote RE are fine, jihad vehicles add stupidly fun gameplay and shouldn't be a threat to a good tanker because he has the power to destroy the jihad jeep before it gets near him I don't use jihad jeeps but I do laugh when an enemy or friandly is wiped out by one The only change I would propose to jihad jeeps, is a message to victims saying ' Welcome to New Eden ***** ' Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 303	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:04:00 - [6] - Quote Maybe if conventional AV wasn't completely broken and tank-stomping wasn't so common. Sorry, mach-3 invincible murder-fortress driver.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1079	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:08:00 - [7] - Quote -1 support the jihad jeep "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 533	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:49:00 - [8] - Quote The tank should be smart enough to counter the LAV, i've seen a tank rip an LAV to ashes in less than seconds, i think they can do the same now. *Assassination is my thing.*
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 314	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:03:00 - [9] - Quote Thinking about it... If a tanker is really afraid of a suicide LAV then he shouldn't be a tanker 'Fool me once, shame on you' 'Fool me twice, shame on me' Its pretty obvious guys are going to use Jihad jeeps, but he is taking a severe risk and if you can't deal with it then....... shame on you Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 541	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:05:00 - [10] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Thinking about it... If a tanker is really afraid of a suicide LAV then he shouldn't be a tanker 'Fool me once, shame on you' 'Fool me twice, shame on me' Its pretty obvious guys are going to use Jihad jeeps, but he is taking a severe risk and if you can't deal with it then....... shame on you Dude, teach me the ways of the plasma cannon. *Assassination is my thing.*

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 314	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:08:00 - [11] - Quote I won't be on for a few days... but hop into my public channel DeadMansGame I will keep an eye out 4 u, and if u see me on send a mail .... o7 Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 543	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:29:00 - [12] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I won't be on for a few days... but hop into my public channel DeadMansGame I will keep an eye out 4 u, and if u see me on send a mail .... o7 You won't regret it, you have came to the right person XD i'll be sure to remember. *Assassination is my thing.*
echo47 Minmatar Republic 136	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:32:00 - [13] - Quote I think it is a viable tactic. We are immortal kind of makes since that they can be used in this way. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 200	Posted - 2013.12.27 01:22:00 - [14] - Quote Honestly if I was a clone mercenary like this is actually kinda want to do a jihad jeep run once or twice......I'm crazy like that but a lot of u are sitting there thinking "well if I came back I'd do it once"
Komodo Jones Chaotik Serenity 300	Posted - 2013.12.27 06:02:00 - [15] - Quote Don't really see a problem with them, they're like the cheap scout shotgunner of the vehicle world, if anything they should allow you to stick remotes to people, then things will get REALLY interesting :) This is a signature. You're now reading it. You may now reply to my post.
Jillic Bojo's School of the Trades 5	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:16:00 - [16] - Quote I jihad jeep regularly. Believe it or not, it does take a smattering of skill. First, you have to get close to the thing. Not as easy as it sounds, especially if the tankers KNOW there's a jihadi on the field. Your driving around in a flimsy plastic car COVERED in explosives (or at least I do), and it only takes usually two good hits to blow your ass into ash. Infantry can blow the RE's with wild fire, and two mean your a goner. Then when your actually within ramming range, you gotta pray it's hardeners are on cooldown, or that he doesn't notice you and pop them. On top of all that, there's the distinct chance that your pathing will screw up and you'll drive over the tank leaving you with your ass facing his gun barrel. Yes, suicide bombing isn't a particularly glamorous job, but with the current nerfs to AV, it's what I got. Plus, you can pull off some amazingly hilarious kills. I nailed two Maddies with one jeep the other day. Or the time I drove over a Soma, ran into the proxies he was sitting on, which blew my jeep, which blew my RE's, which blew the Soma. And now for the MATHS! Theoretically, if one is willing to spend Aurum, one should be able to throw down 24 RE's on a single LAV, this in turn comes out to 36,000 points of damage. If you can squeeze the Republic LP versions onto the LAV at the same time, this number rises to 36 RE's spewing out a hilarious 54,000 damage. Now, I haven't gotten the opportunity to test this out because my skill in splody stuff isn't high enough, but judging from the fact that I can stack 10 RE's on my LAV (Aurum and ISK basic RE's (3 each) and Aurum ADV(4)) I would assume that it's possible. And if it is, well, Caldari Girls Do It Better.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 319	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:36:00 - [17] - Quote Jillic wrote: I jihad jeep regularly. Believe it or not, it does take a smattering of skill. First, you have to get close to the thing. Not as easy as it sounds, especially if the tankers KNOW there's a jihadi on the field. Your driving around in a flimsy plastic car COVERED in explosives (or at least I do), and it only takes usually two good hits to blow your ass into ash. Infantry can blow the RE's with wild fire, and two mean your a goner. Then when your actually within ramming range, you gotta pray it's hardeners are on cooldown, or that he doesn't notice you and pop them. On top of all that, there's the distinct chance that your pathing will screw up and you'll drive over the tank leaving you with your ass facing his gun barrel. Yes, suicide bombing isn't a particularly glamorous job, but with the current nerfs to AV, it's what I got. Plus, you can pull off some amazingly hilarious kills. I nailed two Maddies with one jeep the other day. Or the time I drove over a Soma, ran into the proxies he was sitting on, which blew my jeep, which blew my RE's, which blew the Soma. And now for the MATHS! Theoretically, if one is willing to spend Aurum, one should be able to throw down 24 RE's on a single LAV, this in turn comes out to 36,000 points of damage. If you can squeeze the Republic LP versions onto the LAV at the same time, this number rises to 36 RE's spewing out a hilarious 54,000 damage. Now, I haven't gotten the opportunity to test this out because my skill in splody stuff isn't high enough, but judging from the fact that I can stack 10 RE's on my LAV (Aurum and ISK basic RE's (3 each) and Aurum ADV(4)) I would assume that it's possible. And if it is, well, GOOD. Tanks deserve whatever they get at this point.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Redline Defense Force Seekers of the Unseen 138	Posted - 2013.12.28 11:34:00 - [18] - Quote MRBH1997 wrote: I agree with CCP making remote explosives sticky for it made no senses for then to slide around like a nano hive. But I do not like the fact that you can place remotes on a friendly LAV or your own and just ran a tank to kill it. It's sad that so many people are resorting to this cheap tactic because they only want an easy way to kill a tank. How remotes should work is that they remain sticky but can not be placed on friendly vehicles. Only sticky to props and terrain and enemy vehicles. This would keep them effective and remove the issue of people spamming them on lavs to ram into tanks for easy kills. It will also hopefully push people to actually trying to use AV instead of using this remote tactic with lavs. Your blissful unawareness is both irritating and funny. 'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT Think twice before you aim at me, you might already be dead.


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