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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2935
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Posted - 2013.12.25 19:31:00 -
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So here is my load out.
Advanced Caldari Medium Frame - Complex Damage Mods x2 - Standard Myofibril Stimulant
- Basic Cardiac Regulator - Militia Kinetic Catalyzer
- Advanced Assault SMG - Standard Breach Scrambler Pistol
- Sleek Locus Grenades - Standard Nanohive
Now on paper it looks good, but in practice it is not that good outside of Sniper, Heavy, Logi and LAV removal. I want more of a fast hit & run type of fit, but I really ended up with more of a brawler frontlines type of guy. I'm looking to make the type of suit you use to take a lightly defended null cannon quickly, and before anyone really knows what's going on.
Any tips?
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1214
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Posted - 2013.12.25 20:39:00 -
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I always pictured the Minnie suit to be the faster "light assault" class. Maybe try one of those?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2937
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Posted - 2013.12.25 21:25:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:I always pictured the Minnie suit to be the faster "light assault" class. Maybe try one of those? I feel strongly against using that suit outside of AV, as the shield recharge rate is too slow as well as the HP. Thank you fir the suggestion though.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Dustbunny Durrr
ReD or DeaD
16
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Posted - 2013.12.26 19:32:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So here is my load out.
Advanced Caldari Medium Frame - Complex Damage Mods x2 - Standard Myofibril Stimulant
- Basic Cardiac Regulator - Militia Kinetic Catalyzer
- Advanced Assault SMG - Standard Breach Scrambler Pistol
- Sleek Locus Grenades - Standard Nanohive
Now on paper it looks good, but in practice it is not that good outside of Sniper, Heavy, Logi and LAV removal. I want more of a fast hit & run type of fit, but I really ended up with more of a brawler frontlines type of guy. I'm looking to make the type of suit you use to take a lightly defended null cannon quickly, and before anyone really knows what's going on.
Any tips?
Aztec, I use a scout suit for more hit-n-run tactics (although a light suit would probably work as well). My initial suit for most domination/skirmish games has 2 cardiac regulators (which allows me to run without stopping to closer hackable targets). Anything over about 250M though, and your better off with a lav. Also, run with either nova knives or drop uplinks in your hands (you tend to run faster with these I have noticed). I hope this helps a bit. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1405
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Posted - 2013.12.27 15:42:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I always pictured the Minnie suit to be the faster "light assault" class. Maybe try one of those? I feel strongly against using that suit outside of AV, as the shield recharge rate is too slow as well as the HP. Thank you for the suggestion though.
Interesting. Never tried it for AV. Something I forgot to mention, I suggested it because I start every match with a 'fossil' minmatar BPO. I think you have to buy it as a skinweave or something now if you didn't get one before. 2 equipment slots and no sidearm.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
397
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Posted - 2013.12.27 17:45:00 -
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minmitar
its faster
and shield regen is neither here nor there if yoiu are being tagged
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Zaaeed Massani
Mics Only Dust
0
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:11:00 -
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Here is my preferred hit and run loadout:
Minmatar Light Frame
Submachine Gun Nova Knives Flux Grenades Two Cardiac Regulators R-9 Drop Uplink
Extremely fast and agile, I was shocked at it's effectiveness the first time I tried it. Try it. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2977
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Posted - 2013.12.27 18:24:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:I always pictured the Minnie suit to be the faster "light assault" class. Maybe try one of those? I feel strongly against using that suit outside of AV, as the shield recharge rate is too slow as well as the HP. Thank you for the suggestion though. Interesting. Never tried it for AV. Something I forgot to mention, I suggested it because I start every match with a 'fossil' minmatar BPO. I think you have to buy it as a skinweave or something now if you didn't get one before. 2 equipment slots and no sidearm. The suit at the lower tiers performs quite well. Though, the proto Minmatar Assault leaves a lot to be desired. The only reason I got it to proto was to have more ammo in my SMG, more high slots for damage mods and a built in repper. That was all done for a Swarm Launcher fit that rarely saw infantry combat. Seeing as how the Swarm Launcher is a rather useless weapon now, I am looking to fulfill an infantry based role and the Minmatar suit is just far too weak for that.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
156
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:17:00 -
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Caldari is the WRONG suit for up-close conflict. Particularly the basic -- I'd go assault or logi if you're set on Caldari.
Also, the Caldari lend themselves to ranged combat much more than hit and run hacking.
If you want a suit that gets in and out of conflict quickly and goes for the quick hack -- try Minmatar. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2978
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Posted - 2013.12.27 20:21:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Caldari is the WRONG suit for up-close conflict. Particularly the basic -- I'd go assault or logi if you're set on Caldari.
Also, the Caldari lend themselves to ranged combat much more than hit and run hacking.
If you want a suit that gets in and out of conflict quickly and goes for the quick hack -- try Minmatar. I might go Assault and I will check out the Logi, thanks for the suggestion. Though, no I do not want to use the Minmatar medium frame other Assault.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y Public Disorder.
289
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:38:00 -
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dragonfly assault suit rail rifle militia/basic smg stanard grenade/m1 compact nanohive 2x ,militia shield extender 2x ,militia armor plate
bout 660 hp, i use it to do ambush good speed/hp |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2981
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Posted - 2013.12.28 00:44:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:dragonfly assault suit rail rifle militia/basic smg stanard grenade/m1 compact nanohive 2x ,militia shield extender 2x ,militia armor plate
bout 660 hp, i use it to do ambush good speed/hp DragonFly, is that the Yellow-Green Caldari suit?
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
158
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:55:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:dragonfly assault suit rail rifle militia/basic smg stanard grenade/m1 compact nanohive 2x ,militia shield extender 2x ,militia armor plate
bout 660 hp, i use it to do ambush good speed/hp DragonFly, is that the Yellow-Green Caldari suit?
No. It's black.
FWIW, the suit above is very close to the one I use as well, but I put complex shields on it as I have the extra cpu/pg to fit them. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2997
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:13:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote: No. It's black.
Thanks
demonkiller 12 wrote:dragonfly assault suit rail rifle militia/basic smg stanard grenade/m1 compact nanohive 2x ,militia shield extender 2x ,militia armor plate
bout 660 hp, i use it to do ambush good speed/hp
Thanks I made a similar fit,
Advanced Amarr Medium Frame 2 complex shield extenders 1 Enhanced Plate 2 Enhanced Reactive Plate Standard Rail Rifle Advanced Assault SMG C-7 Advanced Flux Grenades Standard Nanohive
It will tackle anything and I don't even need the speed to be able to flank with it. Thanks
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
159
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:52:00 -
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I'll wager that one does much better. Please let us know. |
M3DIC 2U
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
107
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Posted - 2013.12.30 21:16:00 -
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Minmitar is great for speed, look to ditch the myofibril though and maybe put a scanner or precision, something to make you "see" more of the battlefield and avoid turning a corner onto a heavy or full squad. Look to boost stamina duration as this helps you run farther and then don't jump, fall, run up hills to prevent loosing extra stamina. Learn to stop your sprint by aiming down the sights when turning to sharpen your corners as well. This helps you save a bit of stamina here and there that can make the difference.
Also, if looking to hack, Minmitar logi still gets a bonus, plus a hacker can make for a rapid turnover suit.
Decide what elements of fighting you want, stick to them and don't add a little of this, little of that or you'll waste CPU/PG/and ISK. |
ELITE INQUISITOR
Eternal Beings
62
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Posted - 2013.12.31 05:59:00 -
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Proto minmatar scout, 3 complex shield extenders, 1 complex ferroscale armor, 1 kincat, k5 specialist shotgun, six kin smg, flux grenades, active scanner. It's very fast and effective. If I lose shields I go around a corner for a sec till the recharge and they recharge fast then back in action.
If you accept your limitations you go beyond them
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3055
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Posted - 2013.12.31 06:15:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I'll wager that one does much better. Please let us know. Truth be told, it worked great! For long open ranged combat.
But not so much for flanking and quick maneuvering, which is what I want a suit for. I will keep the suit though. My weakest point is long range combat ans this suit definitely fills it.
M3DIC 2U wrote:...ditch the myofibril...
That is not a suit I wish to inhabit. That is a no go Houston.
M3DIC 2U wrote:Decide what elements of fighting you want, stick to them and don't add a little of this, little of that or you'll waste CPU/PG/and ISK. I need to though, when I'm out there I don't have back up, I don't have any support and no squad to roll.with. I'm all I've got out there and I have to be prepared for whatever they'll throw at me.
Anyways, I'm working on a Gallante standard Assault that is very similar yet different to my Caldari one. I'll keep you guys posted.
My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity
And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
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Bunny Demon
Scions of Athra
52
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:27:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:[ Thanks I made a similar fit, Advanced Amarr Medium Frame 2 complex shield extenders 1 Enhanced Plate 1 Enhanced Reactive Plate Standard Rail Rifle Advanced Assault SMG C-7 Advanced Flux Grenades Standard Nanohive It will tackle anything and I don't even need the speed to be able to flank with it. Thanks Try this, I don't use it much because I prefer the logi but I do well with it when I do
(It might be slightly different as I'm oflline atm but I'll try my best) Amarr A/1 1 complex shield ext. 1 complex dmg mod
1complex armour repper 1 enhanced/complex armour plate
Assault Scrambler rifle Smg (what ever you can fit) Grenades of choice
K-2 nano hives or active scanner (basically depends on your play style)
Amarr logi ftw :D
(Also...ScR is pretty good)
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
419
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Posted - 2014.01.01 23:40:00 -
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Minmatar M!/series assault.
kin kat
complex regulator Bk42 assault combat rifle subbie complex dmg mod complex shield ext x2 flux nades
I love this fit.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3092
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Posted - 2014.01.02 14:50:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Minmatar M!/series assault.
kin kat
complex regulator Bk42 assault combat rifle subbie complex dmg mod complex shield ext x2 flux nades
I love this fit. I'm not touching that Suit! It's ugly and it I hard to run solo in. Worst investment I made.
Something like love, something like hope. Something like beautiful, something I wrote GùòGÇ+Gå+
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jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
80
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Posted - 2014.01.04 06:02:00 -
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I've found the scramblers/combat rifles are a nice compliment to shield tanking suits, if ur ducking in and out of cover while ur shield charges, u should match ur weapon for the same kind of burst style gun play. Mail me if u wana squad up.
Less QQ more PewPew
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3265
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Posted - 2014.01.15 03:58:00 -
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Alright my new fit!
Advanced Gallante Medium Frame
-2x Sidearm Complex Damage Mods -1x Enhanced profile dampener -1x Basic profile dampener -1x Basic Reactive Plate
-M209 Assault SMG -ZN-28 Nova Knives
-Sleek Locus Grenade -Compact Nanohive
Just like my Caldari fit but way more badass or should I say Gallante.
I got stealth because of the dampeners, but less speed because I dropped the Kinetic Catalyzer and Cardiac Regulator.
Gonna try it out this week and keep you guys posted.
You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
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Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
121
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:23:00 -
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Why not go Gallente Scout?
You could ditch a dampener, move faster, run longer (higher stamina), have a base passive scan of 16m and it is buffed as you level up scout.
The extra passive range and not showing up in theirs really helps in getting in close. Level 1 scout will have a maximum of 42.75db Profile before Dampeners or profile dampening. Which is equivalent of a medium with a basic dampener. Also a scout suit costs $3k for the entry variant.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
3265
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Posted - 2014.01.15 04:42:00 -
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Tch Tch wrote:Why not go Gallente Scout?
Not enough melee, not enough CPU and PG to run Advanced SMG + Advanced Nova Knives, can't dual wield Complex Damage Mods, lack of intimidation through physical appearance.
I have an Enhanced Gallante Scout but it is just not as effective in a stealth chop & drop role.
You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
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