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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:06:00 -
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I'm beating heavies with a standard rail, and toxin combo in cqc.
You're just bad.
CALDARI not so MASTER RACE
Forum Warrior Level: 10
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2430
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:10:00 -
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ITT people who aren't sure what this thread is actually about.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:11:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Seriously you cannot get any dirtier than driving an LAV and then jumping out unloading 500 shots into the enemy, and to top it all of your to much of a (Little girl) to die like a man/woman so you jump in your LAV recover and rinse and repeat.
How to kill this? Longer spool time. Suck it
AV grenades used to stop this from happening but , you can thank SPKR4 and the other QQ whiny tankers for the AV nade nerfs,now they cant take out a freakn LAV...what a Joke....
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:15:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:
A heavy does not jump, it pushes the planet away from him.
I find your statement to be very true,
Also on the subject of heavy drive-by's Just be aware of the LAV closing in. If you are anything except a heavy don't waste bullets trying to kill them before they reach you and instead use that time to find the closest hill or cover and take advantage of it, also be constantly falling back to keep out of their range, kind of like a kite tactic in EVE. Also if you are a heavy or commando like myself, you go straight for them. That's at least how I've dealt with them for the most part. |
Long Evity
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:16:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Seriously you cannot get any dirtier than driving an LAV and then jumping out unloading 500 shots into the enemy, and to top it all of your to much of a (Little girl) to die like a man/woman so you jump in your LAV recover and rinse and repeat.
How to kill this? Longer spool time. Suck it AV grenades used to stop this from happening but , you can thank SPKR4 and the other QQ whiny tankers for the AV nade nerfs,now they cant take out a freakn LAV...what a Joke.... Yes... they can? Takes 2 proto AV nade to kill 90% of all LAV's. With no higher variant for LAV's to turn too - this is the least CCP could do for LAV pilots, as it is an intended 'role' in this game.
Also: I LOVE MY HMG <3
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:19:00 -
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Lonewolf Heavy wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:
A heavy does not jump, it pushes the planet away from him.
I find your statement to be very true, Also on the subject of heavy drive-by's Just be aware of the LAV closing in. If you are anything except a heavy don't waste bullets trying to kill them before they reach you and instead use that time to find the closest hill or cover and take advantage of it, also be constantly falling back to keep out of their range, kind of like a kite tactic in EVE . Also if you are a heavy or commando like myself, you go straight for them. That's at least how I've dealt with them for the most part.
''Just be aware of the LAV closing in.'' we would if they didnt have a scan precision LOWER than a freakn Scout. ''. If you are anything except a heavy don't waste bullets trying to kill them before they reach you and instead use that time to find the closest hill or cover and take advantage of it'' And if there isnt any? Because you know, Dust514 maps are preatty F%#$^& open...
Besides these 2 point, Heavies in LAV's are powerful because AV is underpowered and there by Underused, there by they can abuse doing this to nullify their weakness,speed. THATS ALL.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:20:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:
I'd say there's a difference between using something for transport and this.
Clearly you don't know the definition of transport then.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
1
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
''Just be aware of the LAV closing in.'' we would if they didnt have a scan precision LOWER than a freakn Scout. ''. If you are anything except a heavy don't waste bullets trying to kill them before they reach you and instead use that time to find the closest hill or cover and take advantage of it'' And if there isnt any? Because you know, Dust514 maps are preatty F%#$^& open...
Besides these 2 point, Heavies in LAV's are powerful because AV is underpowered and there by Underused, there by they can abuse doing this to nullify their weakness,speed. THATS ALL.
I agree, AV can really use a boost in damage but if you are with a squad and not solo you can do fine against any vehicle and that it is a pretty ridiculous idea in dust to think you can run to cover but if you are in the middle of the open long enough for a heavy in a LAV to roll on you, that's your problem because you decided to sit out there in the first place. Also the maps may have little to no cover but they got a ton of hills you can take advantage of.
I'm not saying use your radar, I'm saying actually look around and pay attention to your surroundings. The radar is next to useless if you don't have active scanners because CCP doesn't know how to work the scan profiles.
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XxGhazbaranxX
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
853
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Posted - 2013.12.24 02:59:00 -
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I think it,s a valid tactic; dirty, but valid. I will say this though. CCP has to add an animation for either opening a door of the car or hopping in and out of the car to better emulate reality. Apart from that, heavies HMG got a distance nerf last hotfix down to 28 meters from 31 to do full damage and are doing about half damage or less at 40 meters. They are out ranged' out run and outstrafed by any other suit/weapon in the game except NV and shotties.
If this tactic is not to your liking i would honestly have to say to htfu. There are many, many disadvantages to being a heavy. Compensating for those shortcomings by using an lav to close the gaps is smart play on their part.
This is not an exploit. Exploits are glitches or poorly planned mechanics. Even with a well implemented animation of getting in and out of a vehicle leaving the heavy vulnerable for 1 to 1.5 seconds, it would still be a viable option. Much better than trying to waddle towards your opponent to try and close a gap you'll never be able to close on foot.
Heavies had to suffer for too long, being out damaged by the most crappy of players because the hmg was crap. Being oyt ranged, out dps'ed, etc. Complaining about a viable tactic is wrong. Specially when it's done because you dislike it.
Plasma Cannon Advocate
For every niche there is a Rifle
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:07:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:I think it,s a valid tactic; dirty, but valid. I will say this though. CCP has to add an animation for either opening a door of the car or hopping in and out of the car to better emulate reality. Apart from that, heavies HMG got a distance nerf last hotfix down to 28 meters from 31 to do full damage and are doing about half damage or less at 40 meters. They are out ranged' out run and outstrafed by any other suit/weapon in the game except NV and shotties.
If this tactic is not to your liking i would honestly have to say to htfu. There are many, many disadvantages to being a heavy. Compensating for those shortcomings by using an lav to close the gaps is smart play on their part.
This is not an exploit. Exploits are glitches or poorly planned mechanics. Even with a well implemented animation of getting in and out of a vehicle leaving the heavy vulnerable for 1 to 1.5 seconds, it would still be a viable option. Much better than trying to waddle towards your opponent to try and close a gap you'll never be able to close on foot.
Heavies had to suffer for too long, being out damaged by the most crappy of players because the hmg was crap. Being oyt ranged, out dps'ed, etc. Complaining about a viable tactic is wrong. Specially when it's done because you dislike it.
You have expressed my feelings perfectly |
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