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gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 30	Posted - 2013.12.21 05:56:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously ,CCP gives you tankers and dropships near God mode, and you know what you do? YOU USED YOUR POWERS AS THEY WERE INTENDED AND TRIED TO KILL EACH OTHER! But now that us peasants and humans find a way to stop your rampages, otherwise known as militia rail tanks, you want them gone. Apparently you vehicle users think you're so above infantry that you're "Super Expensive Tanks," can't be destroyed by militia tanks. What, impossible, who has ever heard of militia gear being able to defeat upper tier gear? It's not like any proto-tanked slayer logi has ever been killed by a militia AR. Tanker:"We want our fits to be viable" CCP: "K" Tanker:"FK everyone give me god mode plz" Meanwhile swarm launchers are crying in the corner in fetal position wonder why they exist. What a mess you have created tank users. I mean even my alt has skilled completely into tanks and Ads even before 1.7 but I never hear him complaining about how "insert random thing that has killed his tank here." Tankers the first step is to accept the fact that you want to be OP I mean I think everyone does, now repeat after me, "I run tanks and I think that everything should bow before my amazingly fit monster" Now I'm not saying I'm a badass,* but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2363	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:10:00 - [2] - Quote Absolutely yes. Holy Fudgenipples!!! MY HMG WORKS!!! IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!! \o/
dogmanpig black market bank 82	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:12:00 - [3] - Quote where can i get the drugs that the OP is taking, im running low. You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 8 1/10 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2363	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:15:00 - [4] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: where can i get the drugs that the OP is taking, im running low. You can't buy the truth, but you can sell lies Just like LOLTank Brigadiers Holy Fudgenipples!!! MY HMG WORKS!!! IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!! \o/
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5147	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:19:00 - [5] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Seriously ,CCP gives you tankers and dropships near God mode, and you know what you do? YOU USED YOUR POWERS AS THEY WERE INTENDED AND TRIED TO KILL EACH OTHER! But now that us peasants and humans find a way to stop your rampages, otherwise known as militia rail tanks, you want them gone. Apparently you vehicle users think you're so above infantry that you're "Super Expensive Tanks," can't be destroyed by militia tanks. What, impossible, who has ever heard of militia gear being able to defeat upper tier gear? It's not like any proto-tanked slayer logi has ever been killed by a militia AR. Tanker:"We want our fits to be viable" CCP: "K" Tanker:"FK everyone give me god mode plz" Meanwhile swarm launchers are crying in the corner in fetal position wonder why they exist. What a mess you have created tank users. I mean even my alt has skilled completely into tanks and Ads even before 1.7 but I never hear him complaining about how "insert random thing that has killed his tank here." Tankers the first step is to accept the fact that you want to be OP I mean I think everyone does, now repeat after me, "I run tanks and I think that everything should bow before my amazingly fit monster" I don't want them gone 60% of my HAV kills and enjoyment of this game come out of wiping you scum off the face of the map. What really concerns me more than your *** poor AT attempts on my rampages are MLT LAV with RE strapped to them, those are really scary. But yeah please keep coming thinking that you are equal to me in a 1v1 tank battle, 2v1 are also enjoyable. However to take down one of the really good tankers like O'Dell or Aldin Kan you will need to resort to tank spam which you do so hate. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5147	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:20:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: dogmanpig wrote: where can i get the drugs that the OP is taking, im running low. You can't buy the truth, but you can sell lies Just like LOLTank Brigadiers How bitter are you that in all you defence of faulty game mechanics and OP super long range AV that us tankers can now be found of maps and be fulfilling meaningful roles? To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 32	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:22:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Seriously ,CCP gives you tankers and dropships near God mode, and you know what you do? YOU USED YOUR POWERS AS THEY WERE INTENDED AND TRIED TO KILL EACH OTHER! But now that us peasants and humans find a way to stop your rampages, otherwise known as militia rail tanks, you want them gone. Apparently you vehicle users think you're so above infantry that you're "Super Expensive Tanks," can't be destroyed by militia tanks. What, impossible, who has ever heard of militia gear being able to defeat upper tier gear? It's not like any proto-tanked slayer logi has ever been killed by a militia AR. Tanker:"We want our fits to be viable" CCP: "K" Tanker:"FK everyone give me god mode plz" Meanwhile swarm launchers are crying in the corner in fetal position wonder why they exist. What a mess you have created tank users. I mean even my alt has skilled completely into tanks and Ads even before 1.7 but I never hear him complaining about how "insert random thing that has killed his tank here." Tankers the first step is to accept the fact that you want to be OP I mean I think everyone does, now repeat after me, "I run tanks and I think that everything should bow before my amazingly fit monster" I don't want them gone 60% of my HAV kills and enjoyment of this game come out of wiping you scum off the face of the map. What really concerns me more than your * poor AT attempts on my rampages are MLT LAV with RE strapped to them, those are really scary. But yeah please keep coming thinking that you are equal to me in a 1v1 tank battle, 2v1 are also enjoyable. However to take down one of the really good tankers like O'Dell or Aldin Kan you will need to resort to tank spam which you do so hate. 10/10 I think you misread my post, also 10/10 I think I'm confused on what you're suggesting Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear*. We were both wearing it but still.*
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 783	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:55:00 - [8] - Quote Really? so that MLT tank is supposed to have a gun only slightly weaker than proto, and modules that provide the same bonuses? not "lower tier" ones like infantry gear right now. THE SAME as the guy who spent millions of SP to earn better. his just come off CD faster and he can equip one more due to using a real tank. MLT is supposed to be a reasonable facsimile of the final product(skillpoints and modules come later), not 90% as effective as someone who skilled into it, for zero investment whatsoever. That is broken. Lets give you a different example you can understand. Johnny MCnewbie buys a militia suit, gun, mods, and equipment. He now has 90% of your HP, damage capabilities, and he's using whatever equipment you use. You've been playing for over a year, invested time, millions of skillpoints, and practice. Now this jackoff is herping and derping around the field, getting kills, and everyone is crying to nerf YOU instead of the core problem that this new militia suit is simply too effective in it's role. Is it fair to nerf your entire role because one thing is out of whack? Does it make sense from a developer's standpoint to kick a major amount of your customers square in the balls, because the ones who won't be effected in the least are doing something screwy?(yeah, keep telling me those MLT fits are just as invested as me. We both know they're just the kids looking for and abusing the OP thing for the month) Are you just mentally deficient? Infantry and tankers agree that MLT tanks are far too effective, and you sit there claiming that it's only tankers saying this and that we just want godmode tanks. We don't. We're happy where we are now, we're tough, but kill-able if we get caught with our pants down, or overextend ourselves. the same goes for infantry. Sorry that you haven't figured out not to shoot the glowing tank. I know it's a hard concept, but if the tank is glowing, you're going to need this thing called "teamwork" to kill it. Or this other thing called "patience" to wait it out and then hit him when his hardener is down. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9265	Posted - 2013.12.21 06:58:00 - [9] - Quote At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. Vids / O7
dogmanpig black market bank 83	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:02:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. so you are for removing the red lines by removing the reason they were needed in the first place? You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 8 1/10 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 960	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:08:00 - [11] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. bbbbut militia tanks are doing it, us big mean real tanks are protecting you. We would never turn our guns on you. We will just shoot each other I promise. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9267	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:09:00 - [12] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. so you are for removing the red lines by removing the reason they were needed in the first place? I'm for not incentivizing people to camp in it all game locking down entire styles of play by giving them immunity to damage and a commanding view of the battlefield. Vids / O7
dogmanpig black market bank 84	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:14:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: dogmanpig wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. so you are for removing the red lines by removing the reason they were needed in the first place? I'm for not incentivizing people to camp in it all game locking down entire styles of play by giving them immunity to damage and a commanding view of the battlefield. so are you for camping people in their spawning areas preventing them from spawning? You hate me, I hate you. Lets keep it that way. Level 8 1/10 Forum alt. "Its worth half a penny and a reach around"
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 962	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:17:00 - [14] - Quote dogmanpig wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: dogmanpig wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: At no point should someone who invested no SP and virtually no ISK be able to lock down an entire class of vehicles while remaining all but impervious to anything but their own stupidity. That's imbalanced and if you can't see that then you deserve to be in that red line with your rail gun. And to clarify, I still want railguns to be a threat, and I want swarms that aren't laughable, and plasma cannons that, well....work. Giving players free kills at virtually no risk to them is bad for the game. so you are for removing the red lines by removing the reason they were needed in the first place? I'm for not incentivizing people to camp in it all game locking down entire styles of play by giving them immunity to damage and a commanding view of the battlefield. so are you for camping people in their spawning areas preventing them from spawning? isn't this the goal of dust 514? Its what you all aspire to. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 34	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:17:00 - [15] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: . Listen here "Buddy Boy," I don't know if you knew this but Madrugars and Gunloggis are both standard tanks. I say this not as personal idea but as fact, advanced tier tanks were the Enforcers. Also, though you are suggesting that I am so ignorant, I don't think you understand the fitting mechanism of dust. If you did you would understand that no matter what you put on a standard suit, there is still a good chance that a militia suit, no matter how badly fit can destroy your suit, even with pure proto mods and weapons. Also in case you haven't payed attention to the stats of weapons there is only have a small percentage of more damage and viability than the lower tier weaponry, this is a common misconception it is actually the proto suit that allows for great amount of damage with little loss. So I can sympathize with idiot calling other idiots stupid because until proto/advanced tanks are put in you cannot complain about how militia gear kills you, well you can but you know it's "stupid" In other words I don't care how much SP John Tryhard has put into his suit if he's running Proto gear on a standard suit he will eventually get killed by a lower tier fit if a higher tier is not available. Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 592	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:20:00 - [16] - Quote so we want redline rails nerfed, and an adjustment to the modules so they won't be so good, and we're instantly criminals who want only for ourselves? Sounds like you're trying to find a reason to nerf us all, when the only ones that needs nerfing is the Scrubs. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 35	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:23:00 - [17] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: so we want redline rails nerfed, and an adjustment to the modules so they won't be so good, and we're instantly criminals who want only for ourselves? Sounds like you're trying to find a reason to nerf us all, when the only ones that needs nerfing is the Scrubs. But who decides who the scrubs are? Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 592	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:24:00 - [18] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: . Listen here "Buddy Boy," I don't know if you knew this but Madrugars and Gunloggis are both standard tanks. I say this not as personal idea but as fact, advanced tier tanks were the Enforcers. Also, though you are suggesting that I am so ignorant, I don't think you understand the fitting mechanism of dust. If you did you would understand that no matter what you put on a standard suit, there is still a good chance that a militia suit, no matter how badly fit can destroy your suit, even with pure proto mods and weapons. Also in case you haven't payed attention to the stats of weapons there is only have a small percentage of more damage and viability than the lower tier weaponry, this is a common misconception it is actually the proto suit that allows for great amount of damage with little loss. So I can sympathize with idiot calling other idiots stupid because until proto/advanced tanks are put in you cannot complain about how militia gear kills you, well you can but you know it's "stupid" In other words I don't care how much SP John Tryhard has put into his suit if he's running Proto gear on a standard suit he will eventually get killed by a lower tier fit if a higher tier is not available. Fact? More like false. Enforcers were tech 2, and poorly done tech 2 vehicles at that. Maddy's and Gunnlogi's are Tech 1. Oh, just so you know, vehicles don't have that tiered bullshit. And hopefully, it'll stay that wa. Kinda why we're saying nerf them, becuase you know, a rookie ship would never be close to as powerful as a frigate. Frigate would always win. Well, Say if the fit was on equal terms. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 460	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:26:00 - [19] - Quote I wish I made enough as a dropship pilot to be space rich. I barley break even on good days. Fortunately I have some good friends who enjoy my dropship and help me out in a rut
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 592	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:28:00 - [20] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: so we want redline rails nerfed, and an adjustment to the modules so they won't be so good, and we're instantly criminals who want only for ourselves? Sounds like you're trying to find a reason to nerf us all, when the only ones that needs nerfing is the Scrubs. But who decides who the scrubs are? There's simple ways to tell: Scrub/FOTMer- 1: has no skills in vehicles, or very little (under 1m) 2: Is calling out only MLT HAV's, Faction (no real pilot is using those due to the smalls on them, but the scrubs don't care, as they don't need the fitting space) HAV's, or AUR HAV's 3: is such a easy kill it's stupid 4: Rages if you kill them one time 5: Is easy to kill multiple times 6: Clearly can't drive 7: Is killed by anything lower than Adv. AV. An actual pilot is the exact opposite "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^

Rusty Shallows 583	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:31:00 - [21] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: snip Are you just mentally deficient? Infantry and tankers agree that MLT tanks are far too effective, and you sit there claiming that it's only tangkers saying this and that we just want godmode tanks. We don't. We're happy where we are now, we're tough, but kill-able if we get caught with our pants down, or overextend ourselves. the same goes for infantry. Sorry that you haven't figured out not to shoot the glowing tank. I know it's a hard concept, but if the tank is glowing, you're going to need this thing called "teamwork" to kill it. Or this other thing called "patience" to wait it out and then hit him when his hardener is down. Why would people who stick with Infantry agree that those who seriously TC should get God Mode while everyone else gets the shaft? The days of a few people getting all the candy in Chromosome are gone, good riddance. The one thing the Devs did right was make the craziness open to everyone. The OPs commentary was spot on. My only criticism is not everyone who uses HAVs thinks that way, just some very disturbed individuals. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 37	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:31:00 - [22] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: . Listen here "Buddy Boy," I don't know if you knew this but Madrugars and Gunloggis are both standard tanks. I say this not as personal idea but as fact, advanced tier tanks were the Enforcers. Also, though you are suggesting that I am so ignorant, I don't think you understand the fitting mechanism of dust. If you did you would understand that no matter what you put on a standard suit, there is still a good chance that a militia suit, no matter how badly fit can destroy your suit, even with pure proto mods and weapons. Also in case you haven't payed attention to the stats of weapons there is only have a small percentage of more damage and viability than the lower tier weaponry, this is a common misconception it is actually the proto suit that allows for great amount of damage with little loss. So I can sympathize with idiot calling other idiots stupid because until proto/advanced tanks are put in you cannot complain about how militia gear kills you, well you can but you know it's "stupid" In other words I don't care how much SP John Tryhard has put into his suit if he's running Proto gear on a standard suit he will eventually get killed by a lower tier fit if a higher tier is not available. Fact? More like false. Enforcers were tech 2, and poorly done tech 2 vehicles at that. Maddy's and Gunnlogi's are Tech 1. Oh, just so you know, vehicles don't have that tiered bullshit. And hopefully, it'll stay that wa. Kinda why we're saying nerf them, becuase you know, a rookie ship would never be close to as powerful as a frigate. Frigate would always win. Well, Say if the fit was on equal terms. I don't know a vehicle that is slightly better than another vehicle because it has slightly more cpu/pg and mods, where have I heard that before well the assault g-1 has 3 low and 1 high slots, and the assault g/1 has 3low and 2 high slots. hmmm.. and the enforcer had one more slot than the other tanks... I think there's a parallel here. Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 783	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:33:00 - [23] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: WORDS I have yet to be killed one on one by any MLT tank. My death(singular) to a MLT swarm was 3 of them at once against the only tanker on my team(me) in a lolfit(armor tanked gunni without a hardener or shield boost) I killed two of them before going to the great junkyard in the sky. I then switched from missiles(my specialty. also, not available to MLT tanks) to my god-cannon fit and proceeded to kill the last one and prevented them from calling in so much as an LAV for the entire rest of the match. A well fit tank with high SP is destruction incarnate. A MLT tank with no investment at all is a major thorn in the side. That is not right, that is something that someone who just started the game can do for basically pocket change to make themselves 90% as effective as a real tanker. Or for the "I only play what's broken so I can jerk my EPEEN about my K/D" crowd. Again, how would you feel if maximum skilling and spending hours tweaking your build, staring at the fitting screen until you squeeze out those last extra CPU you need, was damn near identical to something that someone who doesn't even know the controls was using in effectiveness, with the only real difference being experience and your window of weakness being shorter and you window of opportunity being slightly longer? It is stupid that MLT tanks are so damn effective with 0 investment into skills. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 37	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:35:00 - [24] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: so we want redline rails nerfed, and an adjustment to the modules so they won't be so good, and we're instantly criminals who want only for ourselves? Sounds like you're trying to find a reason to nerf us all, when the only ones that needs nerfing is the Scrubs. But who decides who the scrubs are? There's simple ways to tell: Scrub/FOTMer- 1: has no skills in vehicles, or very little (under 1m) 2: Is calling out only MLT HAV's, Faction (no real pilot is using those due to the smalls on them, but the scrubs don't care, as they don't need the fitting space) HAV's, or AUR HAV's 3: is such a easy kill it's stupid 4: Rages if you kill them one time 5: Is easy to kill multiple times 6: Clearly can't drive 7: Is killed by anything lower than Adv. AV. An actual pilot is the exact opposite Well by that logic everyone who used tanks after 1.7 is an actual pilot because I have never seen anyone killed by anything lower than proto-weapons in a tank. Also pilots are the minority, so what if all infantry decided that vehicles are for scrubs? Then all tankers would be considered scrubs would they not? Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
gustavo acosta Omega Elite Mercs INC. 37	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:38:00 - [25] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: WORDS I have yet to be killed one on one by any MLT tank. My death(singular) to a MLT swarm was 3 of them at once against the only tanker on my team(me) in a lolfit(armor tanked gunni without a hardener or shield boost) I killed two of them before going to the great junkyard in the sky. I then switched from missiles(my specialty. also, not available to MLT tanks) to my god-cannon fit and proceeded to kill the last one and prevented them from calling in so much as an LAV for the entire rest of the match. A well fit tank with high SP is destruction incarnate. A MLT tank with no investment at all is a major thorn in the side. That is not right, that is something that someone who just started the game can do for basically pocket change to make themselves 90% as effective as a real tanker. Or for the "I only play what's broken so I can jerk my EPEEN about my K/D" crowd. Again, how would you feel if maximum skilling and spending hours tweaking your build, staring at the fitting screen until you squeeze out those last extra CPU you need, was damn near identical to something that someone who doesn't even know the controls was using in effectiveness, with the only real difference being experience and your window of weakness being shorter and you window of opportunity being slightly longer? It is stupid that MLT tanks are so damn effective with 0 investment into skills. One could also argue that starter fits are OP because they require no skill or investment while still getting a decent amount of kills. Also I have had proto-gear destroyed from starter fits as well as killed protos in starter fits, yes that gets me angry, but I'm not running around the forums like a beheaded chicken crying "Nerf the Starter fits" Now I'm not saying I'm a badass, but once I killed a guy in militia gear. We were both wearing it but still.
Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 290	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:39:00 - [26] - Quote You know what is funny. I killed two gunlogis and a madruger in my blaster soma on a character that has 7 million SP in tanking. Got 1 hatemail that game. It came from the dude that didn't get in on my death when the two gunlogis called in more tanks and pinned me down. The forums are a joke, the people that complain are new age hipster fagos that have parents that never told them no and played in sports leagues that gave trophys to everyone. I have earned all my scars and my trophys. #1, best of the league. Top of class. I would feel ashamed and angry if someone ever tried to present a participation trophy to me. The best part is, I have also learned from all of my defeats. If you go through life never seeing the truth of defeat....I feel sorry for you. IWS said the only truth is hate. Well I'll add to that and say defeat is another truth. You lost, you weren't good enough, YOU SUCKED....This time. If there is no loss, how do we learn to be better? You know how I rose to the level of play to be nationally recognized? By embracing my suck and not doing that anymore. That is how winners become winners. They embrace their losses, they accept them and recognize what it is that caused them to be losers, and then they change. To defeat the enemy, loss, you must learn and understand the enemy. Why did you lose, what caused you to lose, and, most important, how can you change to make sure you don't lose in that fashion again? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WINNERS HAVE ASKED COUNTLESS TIMES. You know why it's countless? Because winning is a constant struggle against others that are asking the same questions. This is life. You don't get a gold star for paying taxes and showing up. In my high school band room my teacher had a poster on the wall. It said,"Don't practice until you can do it right. Practice until you can't do it wrong." That is life. If you want to be good at something just learning it is not good enough. You need to embrace it, you need to grab it by the balls and look into its eyes and say with passion 'FUCKALL!!!!' Because you are a master. You cannot do it wrong. Shout it out, I AM A WINNER!!! Like Stuart Smalley, because nobody is on your side if you aren't. Go out and kick some ass. Respect yourself and stand up for yourself. Don't slink into the corner and let people pick on you. Respect yourself. Don't let some greenpeace mother give you a participation trophy when your team finished 4th in the league. Yell at her. Say hey *****, they won we didn't. But next year, get ready to give me that MVP first place trophy. And you better make it with the year and the names of my teammates on it. The babe didn't point to the wall to be a participant. He pointed to say FUCKALLLYALL!!! I'm going to hit a homer and win this damned game and go get a dog and some hookers.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 5149	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:42:00 - [27] - Quote All I was saying is I am enjoying the fools who come into matches thinking that their MLT Dual Damage Mod Sica will save them in a real tank fight. Anyone can stick to the redline and run damage control to keep themselves alive but its even better when those fools think that their success in the redline translates to success in the field. I enjoy destroying MLT tankers who think they have what it takes to bring me down, admittedly some redliner Sica will get me, but if that fool is cocky enough to pull the same stunt twice he'll catch his own face full of rail gun. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Cosgar ParagonX 8939	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:46:00 - [28] - Quote ITT: People that don't understand the concept of work in progress... I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 592	Posted - 2013.12.21 07:48:00 - [29] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: gustavo acosta wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: so we want redline rails nerfed, and an adjustment to the modules so they won't be so good, and we're instantly criminals who want only for ourselves? Sounds like you're trying to find a reason to nerf us all, when the only ones that needs nerfing is the Scrubs. But who decides who the scrubs are? There's simple ways to tell: Scrub/FOTMer- 1: has no skills in vehicles, or very little (under 1m) 2: Is calling out only MLT HAV's, Faction (no real pilot is using those due to the smalls on them, but the scrubs don't care, as they don't need the fitting space) HAV's, or AUR HAV's 3: is such a easy kill it's stupid 4: Rages if you kill them one time 5: Is easy to kill multiple times 6: Clearly can't drive 7: Is killed by anything lower than Adv. AV. An actual pilot is the exact opposite Well by that logic everyone who used tanks after 1.7 is an actual pilot because I have never seen anyone killed by anything lower than proto-weapons in a tank. Also pilots are the minority, so what if all infantry decided that vehicles are for scrubs? Then all tankers would be considered scrubs would they not? I've seen otherwise. been seeing CBR-7 and even regular Swarms. The only reason why I'm using wiki swarms is for time constraints. Otherwise, I would switch to CBR-7 and save ISK from potential losses. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 461	Posted - 2013.12.21 08:23:00 - [30] - Quote Woah I was only responding to your title but I just read the rest of it and wow. I don't want rail tanks removed, though I do want to see them loose the ability to fire from the red line. Its unfair, and ruins my fun playing as a dropship pilot. I would be less angry with rail tanks if I could actually put up a fight and try to use my skill at piloting to win. Forcing me to cower and be useless dispite months of combat flying experience and millions of sp is not fun, especially when I can't fight the problem.

Rowdy Railgunner Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 290	Posted - 2013.12.21 09:46:00 - [31] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Woah I was only responding to your title but I just read the rest of it and wow. I don't want rail tanks removed, though I do want to see them loose the ability to fire from the red line. Its unfair, and ruins my fun playing as a dropship pilot. I would be less angry with rail tanks if I could actually put up a fight and try to use my skill at piloting to win. Forcing me to cower and be useless dispite months of combat flying experience and millions of sp is not fun, especially when I can't fight the problem. You can fight the problem. You just need to GET GUD. Don't give up because a new challenge is in your way. Learn the obstacle, study it, and then overcome it. Rails can only aim so high. Dropships can move so fast now. Use the terrain and the expanded redline to your advantage. Get above them, kill them, but don't quit. Remember quitters never win.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 105	Posted - 2013.12.21 09:59:00 - [32] - Quote Tank spammed in a match, made a road trap INSIDE the redline, maddy with ion cannon boosts in to kill more infantry(been at it for a while) explodes. i yank one out and grab my dren swarm launcher and mostly kill a sica before some f-tard with a FOTM suit kills me in 2 bullets. but i got the good tanker with proxies so i yanked another one out anyway. Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 105	Posted - 2013.12.21 10:03:00 - [33] - Quote Also, tankers with 0 sp invested go into what i call 'jeweling' still explode when they hit a full spread of proximity mines. thats another way to tell a real tanker from scrub :D Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
Cal Predine StarKnight Security 49	Posted - 2013.12.22 10:55:00 - [34] - Quote Well, OP is certainly almost entirely correct, except that tanks weren't really ever used to kill one another that much - they were always primarily kill-farming anti-infantry invulnerable monsters. But still tankers cried that they aren't tough enough, despite even a casual glance at tanker stats vs infantry stats would indicate otherwise to even the slimmest intellect. And they cried so loud and so consistently that CCP thought they may have a point.... This is exactly why forums are a poor guide for game design policy - the gobbiest "contributors" to forums are often the ones who just want "their way" to be some sort of easy mode. And then 1.7 came along. Wow, just wow... So I did a quick experiment. I fit a militia tank with a few militia modules and went out to hunt tanks. I couldn't bring myself to sink to the depths of the kill-farming anti-infantry blaster tanks which are so universally popular, so at least I fit it for AV use. I've never used a tank before, and I can't express how much I sucked at it. But despite my ineptitude, I still remained utterly invulnerable, and even with my control-fumbling could easily remove myself at high speed from danger before the ridiculously ineffective AV attacks could really offer any credible threat. Broken, broken, broken.
Jason Pearson 3582	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:09:00 - [35] - Quote Spoiled Rich Kids..? Funny, I thought the AVers were the rich kids, still crying about not being able to chuck 3 Lai Dais and instagib a 1.7mil tank, repeatedly with no effort. Cal Predine wrote: tanker stats vs infantry stats If you mean Leaderboard stats, sure, we died less, however if you mean HP, Damage, etc, go and look at the swarms, forges and AV grenade's previous damage, sure my tank had 5000 shields, but that meant ** when up against an Assault Player packing Lai Dais. Same with Forges, I'd sit on a roof killing every tank there, and swarms, lol. They were ***** easy mode. You people wouldn't know "OP" tanks, go back to when Tanks were gods, this is nothing. I've made several posts detailing the issues and yet you're all whining about how it must be just the tanks being OP, no, it's the modules and the fact you can stack them, you can make it a ridiculous fit. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 994	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:17:00 - [36] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Spoiled Rich Kids..? Funny, I thought the AVers were the rich kids, still crying about not being able to chuck 3 Lai Dais and instagib a 1.7mil tank, repeatedly with no effort. Cal Predine wrote: tanker stats vs infantry stats If you mean Leaderboard stats, sure, we died less, however if you mean HP, Damage, etc, go and look at the swarms, forges and AV grenade's previous damage, sure my tank had 5000 shields, but that meant ** when up against an Assault Player packing Lai Dais. Same with Forges, I'd sit on a roof killing every tank there, and swarms, lol. They were ***** easy mode. You people wouldn't know "OP" tanks, go back to when Tanks were gods, this is nothing. I've made several posts detailing the issues and yet you're all whining about how it must be just the tanks being OP, no, it's the modules and the fact you can stack them, you can make it a ridiculous fit. and AV is lousy. Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1475	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:17:00 - [37] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Spoiled Rich Kids..? Funny, I thought the AVers were the rich kids, still crying about not being able to chuck 3 Lai Dais and instagib a 1.7mil tank, repeatedly with no effort. Cal Predine wrote: tanker stats vs infantry stats If you mean Leaderboard stats, sure, we died less, however if you mean HP, Damage, etc, go and look at the swarms, forges and AV grenade's previous damage, sure my tank had 5000 shields, but that meant ** when up against an Assault Player packing Lai Dais. Same with Forges, I'd sit on a roof killing every tank there, and swarms, lol. They were *** easy mode. You people wouldn't know "OP" tanks, go back to when Tanks were gods*, this is nothing. I've made several posts detailing the issues and yet you're all whining about how it must be just the tanks being OP, no, it's the modules and the fact you can stack them, you can make it a ridiculous fit. shudders at the thought of the return of the god mode maddys uuuuurrggh Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior
Jason Pearson 3582	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:21:00 - [38] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Spoiled Rich Kids..? Funny, I thought the AVers were the rich kids, still crying about not being able to chuck 3 Lai Dais and instagib a 1.7mil tank, repeatedly with no effort. Cal Predine wrote: tanker stats vs infantry stats If you mean Leaderboard stats, sure, we died less, however if you mean HP, Damage, etc, go and look at the swarms, forges and AV grenade's previous damage, sure my tank had 5000 shields, but that meant ** when up against an Assault Player packing Lai Dais. Same with Forges, I'd sit on a roof killing every tank there, and swarms, lol. They were *** easy mode. You people wouldn't know "OP" tanks, go back to when Tanks were gods*, this is nothing. I've made several posts detailing the issues and yet you're all whining about how it must be just the tanks being OP, no, it's the modules and the fact you can stack them, you can make it a ridiculous fit. shudders at the thought of the return of the god mode maddys uuuuurrggh A single tear falls thinking about the Surya and Sagaris King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1476	Posted - 2013.12.22 11:26:00 - [39] - Quote I miss my sagi as much as I miss cremola foam... Its gone from suck .....to blow level 1 forum warrior


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