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SUNNY THE NINJA
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:01:00 -
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Just saying. The game has changed soo much form before. It deserves a new review. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:03:00 -
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There was a 1.7 review.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
962
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:03:00 -
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It would still get a low review. While things have improved, Dust is still very much lacking in both performance and content. If Dust was going to be up for a new round of reviews, it had best wait till after moving to the PS4, CCP switches to Unreal 4, performance improves, and there is enough content for Dust to be considered a full-fledged game.
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2357
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:04:00 -
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IGN? *roaring laughter*
IGN is sooooo commercial, you already know the review scores before you read em. No way, I read the last review they did and it was so blatantly idiotic.
I got into a argument with a IGN editor on there in the comment section. The guy judged everything from a BF/COD standpoint instead of reviewing it objectively.
Mind you, the latest gamespot review I didn't mind, because it was a good write up. IGN are the worst when it comes to reviews.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:08:00 -
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IGN is a joke. they got a stick up their ass by the name of xbox |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1400
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:13:00 -
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It would not be a good thing. |
Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:15:00 -
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If you need me to remind you that this game sucks, all you have to do is ask.
The PC and SL should fit into Sidearm/ Equipment slots so it's accessible and practical to carry one.
AV spam vs V spam
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
7556
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:16:00 -
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I agree that Dust should be re-reviewed, just not anytime soon. Ambush spawns, PC lag, lack of game modes, lack of PVE, lack of racial variants for dropsuits and heavy weapons (Gallente heavy plasma weapon, Amarr heavy laser weapon), lack of meaningful yet accessible EVE connection, lack of player market, lack of extreme planet types, and lack of anything to generally make Dust's gameplay stand out is all reason it should not happen soon.
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1115
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:22:00 -
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Why ?? Seriously the racial suits are not out the vehicle's its not worth it htfu.
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Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
11
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:31:00 -
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Dust got mentioned in Massively's end of year review, but not in a good way.
Quote:Most Likely to "Flop" in 2013: The Elder Scrolls Online Runner-up: DUST 514
Biggest Disappointment of 2013: DUST 514
http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/19/massivelys-best-of-2013-awards/ |
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:33:00 -
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Hey my bad for ditching you once we deployed for battle and the loading screen popped up I got the black screen so I just raged quit and went to sleep.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
524
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:32:00 -
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I guess if we bought enough AUR,CCP could use that money for a good review from IGN. |
Jackof All-Trades
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:38:00 -
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I hate IGN, they have the rudest interviewers I've ever seen.
"Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
89
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:40:00 -
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on the Racro scale of 1-10 for shooter rateings
i give it 11. |
SUNNY THE NINJA
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:47:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Hey my bad for ditching you once we deployed for battle and the loading screen popped up I got the black screen so I just raged quit and went to sleep.
lol, no prob bro. |
Rowdy Railgunner
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:50:00 -
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DUST does not suck, it is just not done yet. We are still in a beta, and I feel people forget that because CCP doesn't want you to think that. For every step back CCP has made, there are two steps forward that people don't recognize because they don't look at the big picture. Gameplay has improved solidly since January 27th. While I was a huge fan of closed and open beta, Uprising 1.7 has figured out much of what is broken in the game. There are still a few core gameplay elements that need to be smoothed out, but all in all the game performs much better, until you freeze. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1630330#post1630330
The new weapons are awesome and a great step to adding more versatility on the battlefield. More powerful HAVs, more powerful DS, more powerful AV. That last part will get me flamed but I feel that AV is actually more useful now because it invokes teamwork and removes the task from one dedicated AV person to multiple. That is the way it should be. The battlefield needs to be a fast moving fluid or it becomes stagnant. That is what 1 proto FG or SL did in 1.0-1.6. It delegated the removal of vehicles to one person of 16 and bred rooftop FGs slaughtering infantry. Now those FGs have actual targets to shoot other than infantry. People will not look at it that way though and I can tell ou that I was only killed maybe once since 1.7 launched by a FG.
All in all though if CCP keeps down the path to optimization and the introduction of gear and weapons, I would say that by May 14, 2014 we might actually have a full release game to play that is just as good if not better than the next AAA shooter. I haven't played the new HALO or Destiny yet though so I might be gone as well by then depending on what XBOX and PS4 do to me on those fronts. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2359
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:57:00 -
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Jackof All-Trades wrote:I hate IGN, they have the rudest interviewers I've ever seen.
Man, don't I know.
I posted a comment about the review being biased. Saying the reviewer should have taken time to play Dust. There's no way that you can just sit down and play Dust for a few hours, then write a review as if you're informed.
Then this IGN editor comes outta nowhere and starts picking on my post as if I'm not allowed to express my opinion on a comment section. Saying I didn't know what I was talking about and how the review was good. He responded to me like I was this 15 year old kid who just got mad about someone saying something bad about his favorite game. AKA...just a fanboy troll.
It was absurd.
Dust 514 is not a game you just play for a day and write a review on it.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2355
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:00:00 -
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I'd rather people wait for all of the racial gear (suits, vehicles, weapons, etc.) to be added first before we try to get people into this game.
That would be like handing in an incomplete assignment to your Professor.
It would seriously hinder our chances at a bigger playerbase. (Even more than we already have)
Holy Fudgenipples!!!
MY HMG WORKS!!! IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
953
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:00:00 -
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SUNNY THE NINJA wrote:Just saying. The game has changed soo much form before. It deserves a new review.
unless they have had an alt cooking they will still give it a shittty review. They probably still would. This game is hell for new players.
Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
953
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:05:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Jackof All-Trades wrote:I hate IGN, they have the rudest interviewers I've ever seen. Man, don't I know. I posted a comment about the review being biased. Saying the reviewer should have taken time to play Dust. There's no way that you can just sit down and play Dust for a few hours, then write a review as if you're informed. Then this IGN editor comes outta nowhere and starts picking on my post as if I'm not allowed to express my opinion on a comment section. Saying I didn't know what I was talking about and how the review was good. He responded to me like I was this 15 year old kid who just got mad about someone saying something bad about his favorite game. AKA...just a fanboy troll. It was absurd. Dust 514 is not a game you just play for a day and write a review on it.
but if you did,it would probably say "don't waste your time".
Watch my back does not mean look at my spine.
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2831
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:31:00 -
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1. IGN is a joke 2. I see absolutely no reason to expect a new review to be any better than the last. The meta has changed, but not in any clearly net-positive way. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
3486
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:42:00 -
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This game is terrible for reviewers.
New players get raped by everyone. They get 1-3 games at most in academy then get put out in the street with the bigboys and get slaughtered.
All the while looking at subpar graphics and seeing the game have terrible performance and frame rate drops.
In other words.. They are playing a bad game.
I don't blame anyone if they say dust is ****. Because I agree.
Edit: if I had already reviewed a game as bad as dust... I wouldn't wanna try again.
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Lonegnr
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:51:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote: I got into a argument with a IGN editor on there in the comment section. The guy judged everything from a BF/COD standpoint instead of reviewing it objectively.
What's wrong with that exactly? Whether you like them or not, those 2 particular titles set the bar for FPS games thanks to their enormous player bases. Not to mention, it's an opinion piece, and the editor would have been correct to write it from the perspective of the largest common denominator.
Oh, and objectively, this game sucks. |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
69
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:59:00 -
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I would give Dust a good review, because it is the only online shooter besides starhawk that has kept me entertained for over +100 hours.
I think I'm the only person still waiting for mechs/giant robot killing machines.....
dangCCPyourslowpickupthepace
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2362
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Posted - 2013.12.21 05:01:00 -
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Lonegnr wrote:Michael Arck wrote: I got into a argument with a IGN editor on there in the comment section. The guy judged everything from a BF/COD standpoint instead of reviewing it objectively.
What's wrong with that exactly? Whether you like them or not, those 2 particular titles set the bar for FPS games thanks to their enormous player bases. Not to mention, it's an opinion piece, and the editor would have been correct to write it from the perspective of the largest common denominator. Oh, and objectively, this game sucks.
Because you cannot judge games objectively if you are basing them on what COD/BF is doing. You cannot also judge this game by playing it in a day and then giving judgement. Especially a game of this nature which grows over time.
That's like reviewing Inception based on seeing Memento. It just doesn't make sense
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Protocake JR
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
1165
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Posted - 2013.12.21 05:17:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:DUST does not suck, it is just not done yet. We are still in a beta, and I feel people forget that because CCP doesn't want you to think that. For every step back CCP has made, there are two steps forward that people don't recognize because they don't look at the big picture. Gameplay has improved solidly since January 27th. While I was a huge fan of closed and open beta, Uprising 1.7 has figured out much of what is broken in the game. There are still a few core gameplay elements that need to be smoothed out, but all in all the game performs much better, until you freeze. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1630330#post1630330The new weapons are awesome and a great step to adding more versatility on the battlefield. More powerful HAVs, more powerful DS, more powerful AV. That last part will get me flamed but I feel that AV is actually more useful now because it invokes teamwork and removes the task from one dedicated AV person to multiple. That is the way it should be. The battlefield needs to be a fast moving fluid or it becomes stagnant. That is what 1 proto FG or SL did in 1.0-1.6. It delegated the removal of vehicles to one person of 16 and bred rooftop FGs slaughtering infantry. Now those FGs have actual targets to shoot other than infantry. People will not look at it that way though and I can tell ou that I was only killed maybe once since 1.7 launched by a FG. All in all though if CCP keeps down the path to optimization and the introduction of gear and weapons, I would say that by May 14, 2014 we might actually have a full release game to play that is just as good if not better than the next AAA shooter. I haven't played the new HALO or Destiny yet though so I might be gone as well by then depending on what XBOX and PS4 do to me on those fronts.
Yeah yeah yeah, we all know about Dust's potential. But reviews are not supposed to talk up a game based on what it could be, they analyze what the game is in it's current state. Don't get me wrong, it's okay to mention that future monthly updates can give you a reason to come back if you don't like the current update. However, that does not excuse the terrible game performance of the current update.
The more I think about it, the more I believe that 1.7 is a mediocre patch because it did not fix the most important, fundamental issues that have cursed this game since the beginning. It was a good patch in the sense that it entertained most of the current playerbase, but aiming, shooting, and moving are still subpar.
Aiming doesn't feel right because of the inconsistant framerates. Shooting doesn't feel right because of the wonky hit detection. Moving around the battlefield does not feel right because you are always glitching on the terrain, coming to a complete stop because of a 2 inch curb (cliff), getting caught on a pointless protusion on a wall, and being forced to stand around for 6 (eternity) seconds waiting for enough stamina to regenerate so you can barely jump over a rail or invisible wall on the terrain.
The PC and SL should fit into Sidearm/ Equipment slots so it's accessible and practical to carry one.
AV spam vs V spam
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Lonegnr
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:21:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Because you cannot judge games objectively if you are basing them on what COD/BF is doing. You cannot also judge this game by playing it in a day and then giving judgement. Especially a game of this nature which grows over time.
Except CoD/BF simply do what people want them to do, so he's not really basing them off the titles, he's basing it off what people actually like (again, that's why their player bases are huge).
I'd give you the second point about judging the game in a day, but all that means is more skillpoints, which translates into a power boost against the new guy. It doesn't change a whole lot. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2362
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:31:00 -
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Lonegnr wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Because you cannot judge games objectively if you are basing them on what COD/BF is doing. You cannot also judge this game by playing it in a day and then giving judgement. Especially a game of this nature which grows over time.
Except CoD/BF simply do what people want them to do, so he's not really basing them off the titles, he's basing it off what people actually like (again, that's why their player bases are huge). I'd give you the second point about judging the game in a day, but all that means is more skillpoints, which translates into a power boost against the new guy. It doesn't change a whole lot.
Yea, which doesn't review the game itself. He used COD/BF as the measure stick, as if its the definitive. In that case, every shooter should be compared to them. Every single one.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
5962
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:38:00 -
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I don't think any business like IGN or GameInformer should do any more reviews yet until Dust 514 has at least most of the core features implemented. We're not even 50% done yet with the core features. Putting out another review on a game on this current state will not help with CCP's public relations on the game.
PS: I hate IGN anyways. They are a bunch of sell outs and EA's lapdog.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Lonegnr
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:43:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yea, which doesn't review the game itself. He used COD/BF as the measure stick, as if its the definitive. In that case, every shooter should be compared to them. Every single one.
I'm pretty sure they are, lol. Either way, it's an opinion piece. The degree of objectivity you're looking for doesn't exist in a game review. |
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