DUST Search - Preservation of FW

TechMechMeds wrote:

Samael Artico wrote:

Sam Tektzby wrote:

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

Sam Tektzby wrote:

This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it.

Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea.

Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions.

Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent.

I think you mean "can't", not "can".

Also, you want a better idea? Make factional warfare matter. As it is now, factional warfare is just a way for you to actively earn loyalty points to buy factional items. If you don't want those items, there's no reason to do it.

That all depends on the person, usually teenyboppers want a reward for EVERYTHING, like a dog.

The battles are generated on actual planets in eve, each faction has an ideology, all over game just give you usually 2 factions and no reason at all to fight.

What's so pointless about it in dust? Its the same as every other game in that respect, would you need an amarrian to actually come and enslave your whole family in real life? Lol

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Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 44	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:04:00 - [1] - Quote Via this hread. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130656&find=unread Originaly posted idea: There is other way and thats a limitation of FW battles under direct flag, for example like in real world, economy is based with laws of people fluctuation, why not make it like:"Oki you have 10 consecutive wins under Galente flag, but you must chose another faction for another 10 wins, to preserve economy.", what about this?! Support - Tactician/Medic
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1809	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:09:00 - [2] - Quote You will either get no replies because you have no idea what your talking about or people will sht all over your idea save for others who don't know what they are talking about. Watch. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1809	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:16:00 - [3] - Quote Bump lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 829	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:16:00 - [4] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Via this hread.There is other way and thats a limitation of FW battles under direct flag, for example like in real world, economy is based with laws of people fluctuation, why not make it like:"Oki you have 10 consecutive wins under Galente flag, but you must chose another faction for another 10 wins, to preserve economy.", what about this?! There are no words to describe how stupid an idea this is... I'm not even going to waste my breath pointing out the obvious flaws. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 39	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:17:00 - [5] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: There is other way and thats a limitation of FW battles under direct flag, for example like in real world, economy is based with laws of people fluctuation, why not make it like:"Oki you have 10 consecutive wins under Galente flag, but you must chose another faction for another 10 wins, to preserve economy.", what about this?! Terrible idea! Do you not understand the concept of it being factional warfare?
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:20:00 - [6] - Quote I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!".
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1809	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:22:00 - [7] - Quote Samael Artico wrote: I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!". So forcing people to fight for factions they don't like and inevitably lose earnt standings is good? Do you even dust...........ever? Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 829	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:27:00 - [8] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Samael Artico wrote: I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!". So forcing people to fight for factions they don't like and inevitably lose earnt standings is good? Do you even dust...........ever? I think he was being sarcastic. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:28:00 - [9] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Samael Artico wrote: I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!". So forcing people to fight for factions they don't like and inevitably lose earnt standings is good? Do you even dust...........ever? facepalm
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1809	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Samael Artico wrote: I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!". So forcing people to fight for factions they don't like and inevitably lose earnt standings is good? Do you even dust...........ever? I think he was being sarcastic. Oh, you really can't tell on the forums no matter how backwards it is. Look at the op lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1809	Posted - 2013.12.20 08:30:00 - [11] - Quote Samael Artico wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Samael Artico wrote: I, for one, think this is a great idea. I mean, when I'm spreading the Amarr faith, the only thing on my mind is "Oh gee, maybe I should go help those Matari savages who threatened to tear my throat out the other day. Yeah, and since I'm too lazy to do it of my own volition, I want to be forced to fight for the very thing I hate most!". So forcing people to fight for factions they don't like and inevitably lose earnt standings is good? Do you even dust...........ever? facepalm I was being sarcastic... Its barely possible to notice on the forums, the op is serious and adamant without a clue as to why his idea is a joke. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 44	Posted - 2013.12.20 09:17:00 - [12] - Quote This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Support - Tactician/Medic
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 831	Posted - 2013.12.20 09:34:00 - [13] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 44	Posted - 2013.12.20 09:44:00 - [14] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent. Support - Tactician/Medic
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 831	Posted - 2013.12.20 09:54:00 - [15] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent. Does that mean I don't have to be silent if I can't? That seems backwards, but okay! What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 09:59:00 - [16] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent. I think you mean "can't", not "can". Also, you want a better idea? Make factional warfare matter. As it is now, factional warfare is just a way for you to actively earn loyalty points to buy factional items. If you don't want those items, there's no reason to do it.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 562	Posted - 2013.12.20 12:28:00 - [17] - Quote Wow, OP is clearly not fluid in the english language and you guys take a stab at him for incorrect language usage and responding in a sarcastic manner (that even people who are fluid in english don't even get and just doesn't work in writing)? Classy. OP: Majority of the players just want to stick to 1 faction only, so this solution won't work.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 833	Posted - 2013.12.20 12:39:00 - [18] - Quote RKKR wrote: Wow, OP is clearly not fluid in the english language and you guys take a stab at him for incorrect language usage and responding in a sarcastic manner (that even people who are fluid in english don't even get and just doesn't work in writing)? Classy. It's not really that classy, I just like being an ass. Also, it's fluent, not fluid. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 14:30:00 - [19] - Quote Samael Artico wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent. I think you mean "can't", not "can". Also, you want a better idea? Make factional warfare matter. As it is now, factional warfare is just a way for you to actively earn loyalty points to buy factional items. If you don't want those items, there's no reason to do it. That all depends on the person, usually teenyboppers want a reward for EVERYTHING, like a dog. The battles are generated on actual planets in eve, each faction has an ideology, all over game just give you usually 2 factions and no reason at all to fight. What's so pointless about it in dust? Its the same as every other game in that respect, would you need an amarrian to actually come and enslave your whole family in real life? Lol Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 14:40:00 - [20] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Samael Artico wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: This double post, oh oki enjoy game. In near future there will be nobody in your "still win" FW. Im done with it. Here's an idea. Come up with a good idea to solve the problem next time, not a bad idea. Then maybe you won't receive hell for your suggestions. Here is better idea if you can show me better idea just be silent. I think you mean "can't", not "can". Also, you want a better idea? Make factional warfare matter. As it is now, factional warfare is just a way for you to actively earn loyalty points to buy factional items. If you don't want those items, there's no reason to do it. That all depends on the person, usually teenyboppers want a reward for EVERYTHING, like a dog. The battles are generated on actual planets in eve, each faction has an ideology, all over game just give you usually 2 factions and no reason at all to fight. What's so pointless about it in dust? Its the same as every other game in that respect, would you need an amarrian to actually come and enslave your whole family in real life? Lol My point was that unless you really want faction items, you won't participate in factional warfare. Outside of faction items, there's no reason to do it. None. Nada. Zilch.

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 14:48:00 - [21] - Quote Yeah I got your point and addressed it yet you miss mine. I get great pleasure killing amarr as they advocate slavery and are riddled with religious dogma, I get great pleasure killing anyone who finds that ideology sound, if you was in the fw channels you would see there are hundreds of players dedicated to each side on the ground and in space. Stop enforcing your idea as fact, its your own opinion which as matter of factly is short sighted. If all you want is rewards like some kind of dog then go play Pok+¬mon or some sht lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 14:59:00 - [22] - Quote In fact by that logic, what's the point playing any game at all? Story modes are just ai bashing with a story, look into eve and you will see that the stories for the most part are all generated by actual people doing things and to a very limited extent it's the same in dust. The point of the game is generated by us, the players, that's what separates eve/dust from other games, for the time being anyway. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:14:00 - [23] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Yeah I got your point and addressed it. Wrong, you didn't address it at all. Factional warfare is quite clearly pointless... for the factions. Sure, you might get "great pleasure" from killing the Amarr, but its still pointless in the end. Your faction doesn't really benefit from your victory, nor does the enemy faction really benefit from your loss. Even if one faction is dominating another in factional warfare, it doesn't matter. There's almost nothing to make you think "my faction is doing poorly, maybe I should pitch in". And of course, you assumed that I meant we should be given more rewards. What a pity. I thought you were smarter than that.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:18:00 - [24] - Quote Samael Artico wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Yeah I got your point and addressed it. Wrong, you didn't address it at all. Factional warfare is quite clearly pointless... for the factions. Sure, you might get "great pleasure" from killing the Amarr, but its still pointless in the end. Your faction doesn't really benefit from your victory, nor does the enemy faction really benefit from your loss. Even if one faction is dominating another in factional warfare, it doesn't matter. There's almost nothing to make you think "my faction is doing poorly, maybe I should pitch in". And of course, you assumed that I meant we should be given more rewards. What a pity. I thought you were smarter than that. I am, I addressed it twice lol. Like talking to a brick wall you are, you even stated that theres no point other than rewards so I'm right to assume you are just another dense neckbeard. I addressed it twice, you re inforce your opinion for the third time, your a fool lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:20:00 - [25] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: In fact by that logic, what's the point playing any game at all? Story modes are just ai bashing with a story, look into eve and you will see that the stories for the most part are all generated by actual people doing things and to a very limited extent it's the same in dust. The point of the game is generated by us, the players, that's what separates eve/dust from other games, for the time being anyway. I'll just bump this for you even though its above your comment lol, absolutely ridiculous you are. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:22:00 - [26] - Quote Iv hidden your posts as well Samuel, I can't imagine anything beyond simply agreeing to your bull sht would suffice. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 839	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:25:00 - [27] - Quote Sorry, but I have to agree with Samael. Somewhat. Factional warfare isn't pointless, but it could probably be more relevant. As it stands now, it's mostly for roleplayers and those who want factional items. And even then, roleplayers have to use their imagination. I wouldn't mind seeing some real, tangible benefits to factional warfare superiority. It would make factional warfare more meaningful. There's nothing wrong with rewarding the player's efforts, after all. Case in point, the developers of EVE were looking into a way for certain benefits that would be given to a faction if they were doing well in factional warfare. If EVE has it, why not Dust 514? What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Samael Artico Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:27:00 - [28] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Samuel It's Samael.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 839	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:32:00 - [29] - Quote Also, what's with all the forum drama? It's really annoying to look at, so both of you please stahp. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1812	Posted - 2013.12.20 15:35:00 - [30] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Sorry, but I have to agree with Samael. Somewhat. Factional warfare isn't pointless, but it could probably be more relevant. As it stands now, it's mostly for roleplayers and those who want factional items. And even then, roleplayers have to use their imagination. I wouldn't mind seeing some real, tangible benefits to factional warfare superiority. It would make factional warfare more meaningful. There's nothing wrong with rewarding the player's efforts, after all. Case in point, the developers of EVE were looking into a way for certain benefits that would be given to a faction if they were doing well in factional warfare. If EVE has it, why not Dust 514? Well yeah, that's also been on the cards for too long but again that's basically just more rewards. I can guarantee you that when those are implemented the dogs will still be wanting more treats for their effort. Look at the lp store, apparently its still not good enough, nothing will ever be good enough, the whining for more treats will go on and on I believe and it will always boil down to rp and ideologies because generally those that want more rewards and just that little bit more always get bored quickly. I'm certain that it will always boil down to rp in general unless fw starts paying out millions of isk and plenty more salvage items. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.



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