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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.12.19 10:28:00 -
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A few of us have a theory. That if you randomly go into FW with all 4 factions selected, you'll alphabetically get put into matches. So, Amar and Caldari have all the randoms...
Because how in the f*ck else could can this phenomenon be explained? How can players that are so bad all just happen to be for Amarr and/or Caldari? We're not talking bad, we're talking bottom barrel, worst of the worst, shouldn't be playing DUST 514, and probably should be looking into ways to have the government give them financial support through social systems because of their utter lack of thinking power... I picture Amarr and Caldari players all big headed kids that drool and stare at corners for weeks on end, with only the sole thought of reminding themselves to breath once in a while running through their head.
Seriously. This needs to be looked into for the pure sense of fascination and possible discovery in the field of intellectual short comings. Doesn't the United Nations have a division to study and analyze something like this? |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
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Posted - 2013.12.19 10:29:00 -
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8213 wrote: We're not talking bad, we're talking bottom barrel, worst of the worst, shouldn't be playing DUST 514, and probably should be looking into ways to have the government give them financial support through social systems because of their utter lack of thinking power... I picture Amarr and Caldari players all big headed kids that drool and stare at corners for weeks on end, with only the sole thought of reminding themselves to breath once in a while running through their head.
I lol'd ... +1
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Foley Jones
The Exemplars Top Men.
447
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Posted - 2013.12.19 10:31:00 -
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...........this explains everything
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
284
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Posted - 2013.12.19 10:31:00 -
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I agree, the default selection screen should have no faction selected, not every faction.
The reason why the newer players who have no idea what they are doing get put into amarr/caldari FW is because they indeed have all of the factions selected, and the amarr/caldari wait times are MUCH shorter.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
869
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:11:00 -
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Interesting theory. Well worth keeping on the front page in the hope that someone from CCP sees it.
I personally think the faction selection should start off with only the character's own faction (race) selected, but of course that just moves the problem back to the character creation screen. Did I read somewhere that the order of the races on that screen was randomised?
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Lorhak Gannarsein
780
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:13:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Interesting theory. Well worth keeping on the front page in the hope that someone from CCP sees it.
I personally think the faction selection should start off with only the character's own faction (race) selected, but of course that just moves the problem back to the character creation screen. Did I read somewhere that the order of the races on that screen was randomised?
As a person who has created quite a few alts, I can confirm that they are in fact random.
Seems to be Cal and Min more often than not though :P
but maybe that's just me being bitter.
>Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Izlare Lenix
FREE AGENTS LP
38
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:28:00 -
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More often than not there are at least 6 players on the Caldari side that get zero kills but still manage to die a dozen times. I am not even being sarcastic. It's like every Caldari team has at least one full squad straight out of academy.
I leave more games than I finish since it is normally 3-4 squids fighting against a dozen frogs while the rest of the Caldari team sits in the red line and drools in the corner.
If CCP paid out the LP according to your finishing score like how ISK is paid in pub matches I would stay in a battle I know we will lose, which is most of them. But they don't do I won't keep burning ISK for 75 LP. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1396
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:39:00 -
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8213 wrote:A few of us have a theory. That if you randomly go into FW with all 4 factions selected, you'll alphabetically get put into matches. So, Amar and Caldari have all the randoms...
Because how in the f*ck else could can this phenomenon be explained? How can players that are so bad all just happen to be for Amarr and/or Caldari? We're not talking bad, we're talking bottom barrel, worst of the worst, shouldn't be playing DUST 514, and probably should be looking into ways to have the government give them financial support through social systems because of their utter lack of thinking power... I picture Amarr and Caldari players all big headed kids that drool and stare at corners for weeks on end, with only the sole thought of reminding themselves to breath once in a while running through their head.
Seriously. This needs to be looked into for the pure sense of fascination and possible discovery in the field of intellectual short comings. Doesn't the United Nations have a division to study and analyze something like this?
First hand look at Ammar supremacy. I love it |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
493
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:45:00 -
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What? Everyone forgot the FW rewards event?
During that event, the complete opposite happened. All the good players were on Caldari/Amarr because the rewards were deemed better and Gallente/Minmatar got the below average players. During that period, both Caldari/Amarr got to control close to 100% too.
I didn't jump ship and still managed to win rewards for the Minmatar side but i'm pretty sure back in that event, if a noob who didn't even know how to select factions/modes on the battle finder started queuing, they'd most likely end up on Gallente/Minmatar side.
So could we please stop with this alphabetical nonsense?
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Monkey MAC
Lost Millennium
1269
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:46:00 -
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Gallante and Minmatar get it justcas bad! Me and 1 dude spent the whole match capping points, bowling through scores of amarrian mercs, we waited till blues spawned in to hold the point!
Before we had even driven to the next point, the previous was lost!
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I told you, I bloody well told you.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
871
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:46:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:R F Gyro wrote:If a player has all 4 factions selected, what algorithm is used to decide which faction they will fight for? Is it alphabetical at all (ie. Amarr first, then Caldari)? There is no bias towards any particular faction if that is what you are getting at. However you will more likely get matched to an underpopulated faction just so we can get battles happening faster. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130135&p=2
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
893
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:25:00 -
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For some of us, liquor is involved.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate
38
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:35:00 -
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Your god has forsaken you.
EVE alliance seeks mercs, join Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services today!
Let's gank Scotty.
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Valmorgan Aubaris
Stellar and Orbital Strategic Services ACME Holding Conglomerate
38
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:38:00 -
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Maybe I'm going out on a limb here seeing how logic is a very nebulous concept when dealing with things CCP, but, shouldn't we be doing faction wars by default for the culture we chose to play?
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Let's gank Scotty.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
976
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:41:00 -
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I see that most of you have short memory.
remember the FW "event" with rewards based on the faction you were fighting for? gallente/minmatar rewards were crap, every good player from gallente/minmatar started to play amarr/caldari and it turned around quite fast. the most fun part was how some amarr tryhard scrubs claimed it was "their effort" and when the event was over they lost everything again |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1973
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:41:00 -
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My theory is more simple - greater numbers of experienced mercs run gallente and minmatar, thus filling up those sides, so that when a player has all 4 selected, the only teams with space to fill are caldari and amarr.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
198
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:07:00 -
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Amarr and caldari are just unpopular? Maybe the LP store for them is weak. Look at the Amarr LP store. There complex armor repair does 3%. What the flip! Its 5% for complex.
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Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
323
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:17:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:My theory is more simple - greater numbers of experienced mercs run gallente and minmatar, thus filling up those sides, so that when a player has all 4 selected, the only teams with space to fill are caldari and amarr.
I suspect that, as soon as it became clear who was winning most of the time, any mercs who were well-informed (which generally means better players), and who were in any way ambivalent about which side to fight for, decided to fight for the factions that won the most. This is self-reinforcing, so I don't forsee it changing as long as the payout for a FW loss is to trivial.
RDVs are a failed experiment - can't we just remove them from the game?
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
896
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Posted - 2013.12.19 17:13:00 -
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Valmorgan Aubaris wrote:Maybe I'm going out on a limb here seeing how logic is a very nebulous concept when dealing with things CCP, but, shouldn't we be doing faction wars by default for the culture we chose to play?
Nope, mercs. Freelancers.
Do your part. Join the revolution. Sabotage FW. Help this game burn!
BURN DUST 2014
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