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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:50:00 -
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I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
4172
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:51:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
Honestly, I think it's because most of us know from experience how bad it was, and actually getting killed by it isn't really an issue.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Ranger SnakeBlood
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
279
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:54:00 -
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Give it time iam sure people will come to that conclusion eventually. |
Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
433
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:56:00 -
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I think the HMG is perfect now. As a logi defending a point earlier today, I was doing well against MLT kiddies and such- until a HMG heavy showed up and mopped the installation with my ragdoll. Finally, the feeling of "oh sh*t a HMG heavy" is back and it feels... right. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
4172
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:57:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:I think the HMG is perfect now. As a logi defending a point earlier today, I was doing well against MLT kiddies and such- until a HMG heavy showed up and mopped the installation with my ragdoll. Finally, the feeling of "oh sh*t a HMG heavy" is back and it feels... right.
I know, right? As soon as you see one coming at you you get a spike of adrenaline and the anticipation of a hard fight.
I missed that.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
788
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:58:00 -
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I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2712
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:59:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
Hang on, I haven't started using it yet.
No.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1892
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:00:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
The Tank Spam is an issue that the Assaults are facing moreso atm, give them the longer TTKs they want and there won't be any HMG QQ, anyways the HMG is fine now, It works pretty well in PC when the frame rate is bearable I actually can go 2 v1 with my ADV HMG Heavy let alone my PRO Heavy
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1244
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:02:00 -
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I agree. I miss the days from early beta where you would come around the corner, see a heavy, and wonder where you would like to respawn next because your life would be over in half a second. Heavies should be absolutely terrifying in close quarters. A hulking tank of a man that kills anything within 30m in front of him.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4668
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:05:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs.
Back in Chromosome days there wasn't any RR, but people surely knew how to take on a heavy, yet the tears were never ending. I suspect in a week or 2. Fear not, even though I don't play DUST, I'll be another voice fighting for the HMG to not get nerfed again.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
673
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:08:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I agree. I miss the days from early beta where you would come around the corner, see a heavy, and wonder where you would like to respawn next because your life would be over in half a second. Heavies should be absolutely terrifying in close quarters. A hulking tank of a man that kills anything within 30m in front of him.
I wish it was 30m, but it's more like 20.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1692
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:08:00 -
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Is it good now? Or will I still get owned by militia assault rifles in academy?
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
790
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:09:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs. Back in Chromosome days there wasn't any RR, but people surely knew how to take on a heavy, yet the tears were never ending. I suspect in a week or 2. Fear not, even though I don't play DUST, I'll be another voice fighting for the HMG to not get nerfed again.
Why don't you play anymore? You should come back and test the HMG for yourself and further let me know what's up with it. I'm relegated to playing only on Sundays so it'll be a while until I can test it out for myself. |
Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
200
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:10:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs. Back in Chromosome days there wasn't any RR, but people surely knew how to take on a heavy, yet the tears were never ending. I suspect in a week or 2. Fear not, even though I don't play DUST, I'll be another voice fighting for the HMG to not get nerfed again.
It pretty much did get nerfed again. Not sure how "less accurate but sprays more bullets in the same time period while overheating quicker" is a buff in anyone's eyes.
Needs +5m range and HMG op changed back to heat buildup reduction at 3% per level instead of 5% per level, then maybe HMG will be good again. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1892
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:10:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs. Back in Chromosome days there wasn't any RR, but people surely knew how to take on a heavy, yet the tears were never ending. I suspect in a week or 2. Fear not, even though I don't play DUST, I'll be another voice fighting for the HMG to not get nerfed again.
If I can get you in a PC would you be interested in testing the HMG or did you get rid of the PS3? if you'd like to try on a PC match, I'm sure I can get you in it with fair warning.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
306
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:13:00 -
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Yeh, I the lack of QQing is because they're all still in shock from us becoming a massive menace overnight. Don't worry, as soon as it wears off the peace and quiet here is going to change severely. Let's all ready our counter arguments to soon to come HMG nurf threads. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4669
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:26:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I believe no one is complaining because players that know how to face Heavies will just snipe away with their RRs. Back in Chromosome days there wasn't any RR, but people surely knew how to take on a heavy, yet the tears were never ending. I suspect in a week or 2. Fear not, even though I don't play DUST, I'll be another voice fighting for the HMG to not get nerfed again. Why don't you play anymore? You should come back and test the HMG for yourself and further let me know what's up with it. I'm relegated to playing only on Sundays so it'll be a while until I can test it out for myself.
I just can't man. The game is so reliant on spam tactics. Get on a roof, spam FGs, get on a nanohive, spam nades, now it's spamming tanks.
I stopped having fun in DUST since my class of choice became a chore to use rather than a joy.
I can go on and on about the reasons I stopped playing, but I won't. I'm on PS4 now, playing KZ. Still hoping DUST comes to PS4.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1225
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:27:00 -
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The crys of OP are basically because people are still used to nerfed anti-inf heavies. Now they are balanced as tactical area denial defenders.
Equip a RR/CR and shoot them in the head from a distance. Or use a plasma cannon. Or get a heavy in your team. Yeah teamwork.
If you run at someone with a HEAVY MACHINE GUN, you should die. Its a heavy machine gun.
Heavy Machine Gun.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Thumb Green
Novashift
587
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:39:00 -
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I think people aren't "qq'ing" about the HMG because all the other weapons kill so fast now; the only difference the HMG buff makes to that is now the HMG kills fast too.
Actually got a GG mail earlier today because I was using the HMG.
Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1091
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:41:00 -
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I'm happy for it. We all knew it was UP as f*ck. HMG users were considered "freebies" on the battlefield for kills. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
2230
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:48:00 -
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I still think heavies need explosive damage resistance, and I saw a great thread the other day about having increased resistance for frontal damage on heavy suits.
HMG buff is not enough. The logibro-heavy pair should be as powerful as two assault users working together (If anyone has seen the delaneys at work you know what I'm talking about) and currently they can't even compare.
"When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
339
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:50:00 -
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My beloved Burst is back.
I Sacrifice all the victims to Lance, Exmaple and the other Fallen Heavy brother that left the game.
Once the FORGE was with me.
Now i belong to the Dark side...My Forge is called Imperial Scrambler.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4669
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:50:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:I still think heavies need explosive damage resistance, and I saw a great thread the other day about having increased resistance for frontal damage on heavy suits.
HMG buff is not enough. The logibro-heavy pair should be as powerful as two assault users working together (If anyone has seen the delaneys at work you know what I'm talking about) and currently they can't even compare.
oh yea the class needs some sort of resistance skill imo. Built in, or as a bonus, or a skill. Can't have a "Sentinel" suit die to 1 nade... like, why even name the class that if he can't even withstand 1 nade.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1361
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:52:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
There won't really be. heavies have had it bad almost as much as scouts. Those guys needed this. now maybe one day it will be my fellow scouts turn. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
724
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:06:00 -
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Well. I think heavies have been screwed for so long everybody is at least letting them have a day to enjoy it.
Plus, it's just natural that if someone in this huge armored suit carrying a freaking mini gun comes around the corner everything SHOULD just go slo mo and you need to kiss your arse goodbye.
For me, it's finally time to stop putting off skilling rep tools to 5...
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
1237
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:08:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Awry Barux wrote:I think the HMG is perfect now. As a logi defending a point earlier today, I was doing well against MLT kiddies and such- until a HMG heavy showed up and mopped the installation with my ragdoll. Finally, the feeling of "oh sh*t a HMG heavy" is back and it feels... right. I know, right? As soon as you see one coming at you you get a spike of adrenaline and the anticipation of a hard fight. I missed that.
I love it.
They SHRED people now, and fighting one is always a challenge.
My scout runs from cover to cover trying to stay ahead of him, until I can circle around him and stab him in the back.
Sometimes I lose when he turns in my direction and melts me in a spray of lead.
Sometimes I win, and heavy gets knifed with no damage to me at all.
It's fun.
I learned very fast that I can't rush them point blank with knives anymore (used to be able to in 1.6).
Aim for the back 
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
1237
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:10:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in. There won't really be. heavies have had it bad almost as much as scouts. Those guys needed this. now maybe one day it will be my fellow scouts turn.
Not sure about the other scouts but I love your buff!
Hopefully the day can return where the heavy and scout can duke it out once more
(Never face to face though. That would be horridly one sided)
Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
1613
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:11:00 -
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OP DTAR > OP HMG?
I'll be back on in a couple weeks.
Then, the tears and blood will form rivers on Molden Heath.
Alyssa Milano.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8876
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:16:00 -
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Wait until the Minmatar heavy comes out.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Zerus Ni'Kator
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.12.19 02:04:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I was expecting it... maybe the buff wasn't go(o)d enough.
Maybe after a week of HMG molestation, assault players will start to chime in.
Still seeing some heavies using light weapons though .. sigh ... |
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