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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
655
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:27:00 -
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"oh no my AR is not dominating the field anymore....what should i do"
or rather it is.. just we don't have to be in ur face all the time matching you for range. now we have the option of getting in your face or staying away.
as for what to do. i suggest you do what everyone else has done and spec into them. the fact their is almost identical amounts of each on the field is far more balance than we have ever had. i get killed by geks and duvolle's just as much as any other weapon and i kill just as much with either weapons so as far i'm concerned there are all ok. .
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
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Onesimus Tarsus
723
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:28:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:did you expect your assault rifle to always be the most OP weapon in existence?
just because you have alot of sp into ARs doesn't mean a basic combat rifle or rail rifle shouldn't kill you.
yes i said it. even standard gear should be able to beat your Duvolle. if you use the assault rifle in its optimal, then it still works beautifully. you can't spray at 100+ meters and get kills like you used to.
Then whence SP at all? Shouldn't they just set a few standard weapons and armor thingees (etc.) and everyone have access to them all off the bat?
Big red button that respecs your SP on demand.
Protos only get points from killing protos.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1320
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:35:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Having metric fucktons of SP does not turn on God Mode in Dust. It might open up more fitting options, but it will never make you immune to running into the middle of a firefight or trying to furiously mate with a RE. Meknow Intaki wrote:Why would you do this CCP? You have to consider the possibility that CCP does not like you. They never wanted you. In all probability, they hate you. Don't forget to show him the kiss scar that you also have on your hand....
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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ResistanceGTA
Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden
75
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:44:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:it's just Messed up that people can spend 12,440 sp and unlock a more powerful weapon then someone who spent almost 2mill sp They just made AR's useless in this game, there is no place for them anymore.. CR = short range RR = long range ScR = every thing else AR is like shooting BB's at people now..
Do you have proof your being torn apart by people with only Op. 1? My buddy is running around with a basic CR, but with Prof 5. I run around with RR of all types and have prof 4. Did you ask people what levels they had? |
CrotchGrab 360
620
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:50:00 -
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my 4m SP alt can go 28-1, 30-2 with the SCR, granted im not getting stomped on.
try something different. |
Cpt Merdock
The Exemplars Top Men.
164
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:18:00 -
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I put close to 3 mil into my combat rifle, and I use the standard one most of the time, you cant tell how much people put into a gun just by which one they are using, not everyone in this game is a proto *****. On a side note, I have a little over 2 mil into Assault rifles and I still kill people just as well with my trusty Exile. |
Azri Sarum
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
213
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:32:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:it's just Messed up that people can spend 12,440 sp and unlock a more powerful weapon then someone who spent almost 2mill sp They just made AR's useless in this game, there is no place for them anymore.. CR = short range RR = long range ScR = every thing else AR is like shooting BB's at people now..
If other CR users were like me they saved up > 1m in preparation for 1.7. If you're getting torn to shreds, its not by someone only spending 12k sp to unlock the gun...
AR's are also far from useless, but you need to get in close. If you haven't studied CCP's rifle range comparison i suggest you do so. AR no longer win the 'not long range' game. Now you actually have to know your weapon and fight battles on your terms.
AR = short range CR = short - medium range SR = medium - long range RR = long range
I'll bet your 'shooting bbs' because your engaging targets outside your optimal range. Try getting closer, i'll bet it helps.
EVE - Victor Maximus
DUST - Azri Sarum
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We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
475
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:32:00 -
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I really enjoy the new weapons. I find that I still do very well with my good old exile. I get slaughtered by the combat rifle at close range and by the rail rifle at long range as it should, be diversity Is good. The AR is still great at the midrange and on my Lt nothing deals better than running around going positive in my staff suit with my staff AR and going positive in a match (6/5) |
Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
38
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:02:00 -
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problem solved!!!
Been in my tank all day since giving up on my AR and have not died once lol
I'm never leaving this thing again |
Happy Violentime
L0ST PR0FITS
161
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:06:00 -
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i only have 9 mil sp - 3 mil of this i got back as CCP removed LLAV's.
I also had 2 mil SP saved.
When 1.7 dropped I threw that into Gal - Logi and Rail Rifles.
So mr 22 mil - htfu! |
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Leonid Tybalt
DIOS EX.
6
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:14:00 -
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Doesnt matter how many skillpoints you have in your assault rifle skills if you cant aim properly.
And im not saying that in an attempt at being condescending, because the assault rifle is a pretty hard weapon to master (speaking from experience here). In fact, in the beginning i thought the AR was so hard to use that I just abandoned it in favor of mass drivers because i found it easier to lob grenades around me and using splash damage.
But due to a rumor that the mass drivers were getting nerfed I started practicing with the AR again, and even if I have invested a decent amount of sp in those skills, it was mostly practice I needed to get a feel for the weapon (now I get a good k/d-ratio despite using bpo-assault rifles only) |
Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
38
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:15:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:i only have 9 mil sp - 3 mil of this i got back as CCP removed LLAV's.
I also had 2 mil SP saved.
When 1.7 dropped I threw that into Gal - Logi and Rail Rifles.
So mr 22 mil - htfu!
I did harden the f.u.ck up!!!
I got tanks tanks tank and more tanks
I don't think i can get any harder
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Zirzo Valcyn
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:16:00 -
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20mil sp = noob
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
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Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
40
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:20:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Doesnt matter how many skillpoints you have in your assault rifle skills if you cant aim properly.
And im not saying that in an attempt at being condescending, because the assault rifle is a pretty hard weapon to master (speaking from experience here). In fact, in the beginning i thought the AR was so hard to use that I just abandoned it in favor of mass drivers because i found it easier to lob grenades around me and using splash damage.
But due to a rumor that the mass drivers were getting nerfed I started practicing with the AR again, and even if I have invested a decent amount of sp in those skills, it was mostly practice I needed to get a feel for the weapon (now I get a good k/d-ratio despite using bpo-assault rifles only)
To be honest I'm a really horrible shot!! Not sure if its the size of my TV or the large amounts of beer & cheeba I consume well playing lol
I did buy a new dualshock, that helped!!
Lots of time I joke, if you been killed by me you must be doing something wrong |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1685
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:25:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:Looks like your SP isn't quite the crutch you wish it was.
indeed who needs sp when no sp needed mlt tanks are lol easy win mode.
best crutch in the game now.
stop the lol bans in FW.... instead make teamkillers purple!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129910&fi
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
614
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:25:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Just played a few games and no matter what I do how much armor and shields I fit I get ripped apart... I've got well over a Million sp on my Assault Rifle and I get out gunned down by these new guns with next to no sp on them Why would you do this CCP? FYI you don't have enough Damage mods stacked up. Today I ran a series of Starter + BPO suits to take advantage of the No ISK spent ability that some of us have to make ISK and was shocked at how quickly my Exile AR with 3x Militia Light Damage Modifier ripped apart any dropsuit. Just as quick as a combat rifle or rail rifle of similar meta levels I managed to enjoy myself going after proto bears and on several occasions (Meta 1 or 0 only fits) managed to get over 1500 wp running both my dragonfly scout and my minmatar starter fits. Skill and practice will save you more than your equipment, and if you have to rely on equipment, it may be better to rely on a LogiBro and go plate heavy, there are lots of people out there willing to rep your armor if you just ask or find an armor repairing Nanohive.
LogiGod earns his pips
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Mortedeamor
Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1013
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:26:00 -
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i can personally Guarantee that when u reach 36 mill sp it looks even more broken |
Meknow Intaki
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
40
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:07:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:i can personally Guarantee that when u reach 36 mill sp it looks even more broken
Something to look forward to eh!!
It's like frigates blowing up Battleships lol |
Happy Violentime
L0ST PR0FITS
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:20:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:i only have 9 mil sp - 3 mil of this i got back as CCP removed LLAV's.
I also had 2 mil SP saved.
When 1.7 dropped I threw that into Gal - Logi and Rail Rifles.
So mr 22 mil - htfu! I did harden the f.u.ck up!!! I got tanks tanks tank and more tanks I don't think i can get any harder
Good. The more the tanks the harder the nerf shall be.
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General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
192
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:22:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I have 12+ million SP into AV and it's entirely worthless since the only reliable way to take out solo tanks is with RE LAVs Where I come from, those are called Jihad Jeeps
My Big Brother is watching you.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
190
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:22:00 -
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First I would like to say. No one cares how much SP you have. Sad but true. Trying to show off.
Second Yes CCP broke it.
Heavys only have 2 heavy guns. Please dont turn the NERF bat on them. Give heavys more suits or guns soonGäó
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
103
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:26:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Just played a few games and no matter what I do how much armor and shields I fit I get ripped apart... I've got well over a Million sp on my Assault Rifle and I get out gunned down by these new guns with next to no sp on them Why would you do this CCP?
you don't understand the game then.
it not about being the best player in the game just because you have proto gear. it's about how skilled you with that gear and how you use it.
I can easily take on few proto suits with ease and I don't even use proto, because I don't need them. this game isn't about being the head honcho, its about what you do with your equipment and skills
also, just like EVE, anyone can kill anyone. a game where only proto can kill proto would literally kill this game
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
103
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:28:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i can personally Guarantee that when u reach 36 mill sp it looks even more broken Something to look forward to eh!! It's like frigates blowing up Battleships lol
it saddens me that you have never seen frigates blow up battleships like I said, CCP want a game where anything can kill anything
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
103
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:32:00 -
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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:20mil sp = noob
ive recently got 13mill sp and im a very good player and heres why: 1. I can beat proto users using STD or ADV 2. I think smart and strategically about the game 3. im skilled into everything so I adapt to the battlefield easily
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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Meknow Intaki
42
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:50:00 -
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I think I'm just getting sick & tired of playing Dust a nice long break is in order I think.. Maybe when I get back it will feel fun for me again! |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2173
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:51:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:Just played a few games and no matter what I do how much armor and shields I fit I get ripped apart... I've got well over a Million sp on my Assault Rifle and I get out gunned down by these new guns with next to no sp on them Why would you do this CCP? If you're using the AR, you're doing it wrong. Use a Rail Rifle or a Tank and you're good
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2173
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:53:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:20mil sp = noob ive recently got 13mill sp and im a very good player and heres why: 1. I can beat proto users using STD or ADV 2. I think smart and strategically about the game 3. im skilled into everything so I adapt to the battlefield easily Being specced into everything isn't always good. I have 16 mil SP, and my character sucks because my skills are all over the place. It's better to be specced into one thing, and instead adapt yourself rather than your character to each situation.
Although you probably already know this :^D
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
103
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:56:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:20mil sp = noob ive recently got 13mill sp and im a very good player and heres why: 1. I can beat proto users using STD or ADV 2. I think smart and strategically about the game 3. im skilled into everything so I adapt to the battlefield easily Being specced into everything isn't always good. I have 16 mil SP, and my character sucks because my skills are all over the place. It's better to be specced into one thing, and instead adapt yourself rather than your character to each situation. Although you probably already know this :^D
of course I f**** do, but because of how I do im a master at what I do.
my most specced into suits are Minmatar and amarr with proto sr and cr and when I fight Im always at the top of the leader boards (unless there is a protostomp in session)
im a true jack of all trades and im proud to be one unlike some people. either be skilled with what you have or don't, I chose everything because im good with everything
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2179
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:59:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:Patrick57 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:20mil sp = noob ive recently got 13mill sp and im a very good player and heres why: 1. I can beat proto users using STD or ADV 2. I think smart and strategically about the game 3. im skilled into everything so I adapt to the battlefield easily Being specced into everything isn't always good. I have 16 mil SP, and my character sucks because my skills are all over the place. It's better to be specced into one thing, and instead adapt yourself rather than your character to each situation. Although you probably already know this :^D of course I f**** do, but because of how I do im a master at what I do. my most specced into suits are Minmatar and amarr with proto sr and cr and when I fight Im always at the top of the leader boards (unless there is a protostomp in session) im a true jack of all trades and im proud to be one unlike some people. either be skilled with what you have or don't, I chose everything because im good with everything Seriously, don't flip out on me. Calm your **** and get over whatever bothers you about my post.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
103
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:19:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Patrick57 wrote:knight guard fury wrote:Zirzo Valcyn wrote:20mil sp = noob ive recently got 13mill sp and im a very good player and heres why: 1. I can beat proto users using STD or ADV 2. I think smart and strategically about the game 3. im skilled into everything so I adapt to the battlefield easily Being specced into everything isn't always good. I have 16 mil SP, and my character sucks because my skills are all over the place. It's better to be specced into one thing, and instead adapt yourself rather than your character to each situation. Although you probably already know this :^D of course I f**** do, but because of how I do im a master at what I do. my most specced into suits are Minmatar and amarr with proto sr and cr and when I fight Im always at the top of the leader boards (unless there is a protostomp in session) im a true jack of all trades and im proud to be one unlike some people. either be skilled with what you have or don't, I chose everything because im good with everything Seriously, don't flip out on me. Calm your **** and get over whatever bothers you about my post.
im not mad, im just saying that im one of the few jack of all trades in this game and that im actually a good one because of how I have things skilled.
also I wasn't mad, yelling etc. if I said this in person It would seem normal but I tiny bit louder(like how I talk with friends)
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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