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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:44:00 -
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:8213 wrote:A few weeks ago my squad played almost an entire team of Scouts.
We didn't have any gameplan against that. They beat us.
Its hard to play well when you're literally spinning circles trying keep them from sneaking on you.
Scouts are good for the right players. Not everyone can do it. I started as a 100% fulltime SG Scout and couldn't get my KDR above 1.05 for 3 months. I gave up and went Medium.
I think a 1.00 KDR for a full time scout is rather good, but I can't settle for that after having to work beyond hard for little to no reward besides fun.
i'm working on getting mine to 2.0  my goal was to once be on top of the Scout Registry...but you know what happened  now my goal is to get a 2.0 KDR
2.0 takes one of the following:
1.) Be insanely sneaky. Take on only targets you KNOW you can kill. Run from everything else. Camp objectives like boss (Legitimate strategy for a scout btw, we can be quite a distance from an objective and still get there in time to stop a hack).
2.) Get really good with fighting and flanking in a scout suit. Hit and run should become second nature. This takes experience, and intuition. Being a Sadist helps too.
However, most people fall into a happy medium with these two skills. You sneak by default, and flank HARD when you see the cluster form. It's an art really.
Also, this advice is for Minmatar Scouts. I can't vouch tactics for Gallente's, as their tactics change considerably with access to insane passive scans. Our knives and overall speed is better though 
SOURCE: 2.0 K/D scout since Uprising 1.1.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2403
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:48:00 -
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Nobody can draw a conclusion about scout suits from playing with/against Fusion. The dude is stupid good.
Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
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Ghost Kaisar
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
1214
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:52:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I don't have a problem with them, actually.
The community just needs to realize they're SCOUTS; not light assaults.
Their strengths are in scanning and mobility, which gives them 2 main roles:
Stealth combat- using their passive scanning and low profiles to surprise people with shotguns, knives, or plasma cannons
Non-combat- using their superior mobility to drop uplinks in strategic locations, and combining mobility and stealth to hack unguarded installations
I made fits for both these roles, and they're VERY effective, and my personal favorites, next to my minmatar logi.
You do realize that the current scout is nothing but a watered down Assault suit right?
Mobility is just overall mobility. Everyone strafes at the same speed. And turns. No bonus there.
Stealth is AMAZING. If they all run ADV Scanners. PRO Scanners force you to gimp your already gimped suits. Which is why I want better stealth. I stated this on page one.
Also, realize that we have two Scout suits, and only one is really a "Scout". The minmatar scout isn't really a reconnaissance suit at heart, it's actually a dampened assassin. It's goal is to create chaos and confusion. You should be THAT A$$HOLE, and try to **** off the enemy team. Knife people during hacks. Flank a group of reds trying to recover shields. Once they are pissed off, use that to your advantage. Lure them into groups of blue dots, or place RE's around corners. Make their life HELL.
Playing scout right takes equal parts aggressiveness and intelligence. Play it well, and people will be amazed how you pull it off.
In an old post of mine, I said that "A Minmatar Scout is the adrenaline junkies suit". I still believe that to this day.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Redline Defense Force
Seekers of the Unseen
75
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:57:00 -
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Scouts are described as 'fragile speedsters.' We're SUPPOSED to be more fragile than tissue paper, that's the role of the scout. Ghost you've explained it perfectly. Its an art and a science, but its mostly sprinting, stopping, grinning as another victim WALKS RIGHT BY YOU. ITS TOO GOOD. Gallente are more stealth-based but Minmatar are definitely better at getting up close and personal and taking you out silently. I'm gonna stab you. :) Where is my silenced pistol CCP?
'Don't talk to strangers, shoot them.' Snow LOCKOUT
You'd just LOVE to think it was the wind.
Dropship Extremist
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Green Living
Scions of Athra
1071
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Posted - 2013.12.18 05:36:00 -
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Grave Oblivion wrote:Green Living wrote:Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat. But most wp gain is in combat unless you are trying to hack points that no one is at but the scan precision is 0 or close to 0 if you pay attention to when a red is pushing on a point and you die. they will light up from the scan of the point. this means people will see you there and spawn in and then your in combat. its really hard for the class to get an edge to get the wp that other classes can get so easily that is why others are asking for buff of some sort.
Yeah, I basically "scouted" behind enemy lines harassing, hacking objectives, laying proto uplinks the whole match and ended up top of the leaderboard with only 4 kills. |
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