DUST Search - There so much Complaining about the Scout

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote:

Fusion Commander wrote:

If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way

welcome to the forums. you'll see:

QQ about scouts
QQ about TTK
QQ about heavies
QQ about tanks
QQ about QQ

to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit.

Scouts don't have a role that makes them a better alternative to a medium frame. Stealth and speed go hand in hand, but they have very little utility. More CPU/PG, speed, cloaking (along with other EWAR alternatives) and an extra equipment slot could be a massive help.

they could be a help, but think about the past.

if scouts do get buffed, you'll have people like Fusion Commander who are so good, crybabies will yell NERF! again.

don't get me wrong, i'm all for a scout buff, but i just don't want us to be back at square one the patch afterwards.

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Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 21	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:30:00 - [1] - Quote If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Green Living Scions of Athra 1067	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:33:00 - [2] - Quote Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9037	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:35:00 - [3] - Quote Welcome to DUST 514, where the balance is made up and your opinions don't matter Vids / O7
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 23	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:40:00 - [4] - Quote Green Living wrote: Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat. I think it's pretty much on how the person uses it. And from what I'm guessing people that QQ on the forums about it use it like a frontline suit, but I've Been using it since the start of uprising and I thought it was fine. Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
OSGR Valdez TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:40:00 - [5] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way If anything changes it'll be screamed "OP" Your scout suits shouldn't cost as much as they do though
Grave Oblivion 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 17	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:40:00 - [6] - Quote Green Living wrote: Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat. But most wp gain is in combat unless you are trying to hack points that no one is at but the scan precision is 0 or close to 0 if you pay attention to when a red is pushing on a point and you die. they will light up from the scan of the point. this means people will see you there and spawn in and then your in combat. its really hard for the class to get an edge to get the wp that other classes can get so easily that is why others are asking for buff of some sort.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 23	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:43:00 - [7] - Quote OSGR Valdez wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way If anything changes it'll be screamed "OP" Your scout suits shouldn't cost as much as they do though The shield tanks is a prime example to it was useless before 1.7 now it's spammed All suits suits have the same price I don't think CCP will just change it for the Scout Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Ghost Kaisar Kinsho Swords Caldari State 1193	Posted - 2013.12.17 19:55:00 - [8] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: OSGR Valdez wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way If anything changes it'll be screamed "OP" Your scout suits shouldn't cost as much as they do though The shield tanks is a prime example to it was useless before 1.7 now it's spammed All suits suits have the same price I don't think CCP will just change it just for the Scout Then they should make me stealth incarnate. Right now, I have to waste 1/2 of my low slots just to avoid a Proto Scanner. Mind you, this is with maxed out passive dampening and Proto Scout. Thats around 3mil SP and wasting a low slot, all to avoid a piece of equipment that costs around 365k SP ( I THINK). Give me a decent cloak, and the ability to avoid PRO scanners without modules, and I will be a VERY happy scout. I will also stab you all. <---- Why I would be happy Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1661	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:00:00 - [9] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: Green Living wrote: Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat. I think it's pretty much on how the person uses it. And from what I'm guessing people that QQ on the forums about it use it like a frontline suit, but I've Been using it since the start of uprising and I thought it was fine. I can vouch for this... I squaded with fusion many many times... he is one of if not the best scout in the game. oh and welcome to the forums fusion I think this is the first thread ive ever seen you post. o7 stop the lol bans in FW.... instead make teamkillers purple! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129910&fi
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 492	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:01:00 - [10] - Quote I think it's over exaggerated. People just don't want to play 'scout,' they just want an ultra fast, invisible, tanky assault. With 2 militia dampeners my 'Dren' scout is invisible to 95% of pub scanners (ADV), without any skills mind you. I run around with my STD scanner and 'Dren' shotgun picking off easy targets and ambushing the unsuspecting. If I'm seen, I get out of there ASAP. I rarely go below a 1 KDR, even in some pub stomps. If I actually skilled into shotguns, dampening, damage mods, and SMGs, I'd do much better (CCP release the pilot suit already!). Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 3; Pythons: 0; Other DS: 26; Tanks: 12 Gêå2 12/17

Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2388	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:02:00 - [11] - Quote Pretty much. I would like to see some part of speed come back to the scout though, they used to be so fun back then (but somewhat OP due to terrible hit detection) I Buy Officer Weapons, from 200K to 500K a pop, contact me for arrangements Gallente + Amarr: Do it
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 877	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:07:00 - [12] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way welcome to the forums. you'll see: QQ about scouts QQ about TTK QQ about heavies QQ about tanks QQ about QQ to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 729	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:16:00 - [13] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way They deserve it for a while. Seriously. Every other class has been OP once upon a time while the Scout has either been okay or just UP. Would be funny to get killed by a whole team of Scouts one day. O_O And scary now that I think about it... You can't see them on your scanner or passive scans. They can one hit you with a Shotgun and escape in no time. Remote Explosives galore. Combat Rifles. Cloaks. NO. SCOUTS ARE OP. NERF THEM NAO. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1905	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:23:00 - [14] - Quote I run SMG, Swarm Launcher, Flux Grenades, and Remote Explosives on a Dragonfly Scout suit. In order to get kills with the SMG I run up behind a Red and follow them around the map about 2 m behind them, until they stop for a moment so that I can line up a head shot. Chances of wining a straight up gun fight for me in a Scout suit is somewhere approaching zero. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
Cosgar ParagonX 8838	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:29:00 - [15] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way welcome to the forums. you'll see: QQ about scouts QQ about TTK QQ about heavies QQ about tanks QQ about QQ to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit. Scouts don't have a role that makes them a better alternative to a medium frame. Stealth and speed go hand in hand, but they have very little utility. More CPU/PG, speed, cloaking (along with other EWAR alternatives) and an extra equipment slot could be a massive help. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 880	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:34:00 - [16] - Quote Cosgar wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way welcome to the forums. you'll see: QQ about scouts QQ about TTK QQ about heavies QQ about tanks QQ about QQ to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit. Scouts don't have a role that makes them a better alternative to a medium frame. Stealth and speed go hand in hand, but they have very little utility. More CPU/PG, speed, cloaking (along with other EWAR alternatives) and an extra equipment slot could be a massive help. they could be a help, but think about the past. if scouts do get buffed, you'll have people like Fusion Commander who are so good, crybabies will yell NERF! again. don't get me wrong, i'm all for a scout buff, but i just don't want us to be back at square one the patch afterwards. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I run SMG, Swarm Launcher, Flux Grenades, and Remote Explosives on a Dragonfly Scout suit. In order to get kills with the SMG I run up behind a Red and follow them around the map about 2 m behind them, until they stop for a moment so that I can line up a head shot. Chances of wining a straight up gun fight for me in a Scout suit is somewhere approaching zero. Scout suits aren't made for straight up gun fights, unless you can deal a lot of damage within a very short time or tank it like an assualt suit. Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:37:00 - [18] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Cosgar wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way welcome to the forums. you'll see: QQ about scouts QQ about TTK QQ about heavies QQ about tanks QQ about QQ to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit. Scouts don't have a role that makes them a better alternative to a medium frame. Stealth and speed go hand in hand, but they have very little utility. More CPU/PG, speed, cloaking (along with other EWAR alternatives) and an extra equipment slot could be a massive help. they could be a help, but think about the past. if scouts do get buffed, you'll have people like Fusion Commander who are so good, crybabies will yell NERF! again. don't get me wrong, i'm all for a scout buff, but i just don't want us to be back at square one the patch afterwards. Exactly Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:39:00 - [19] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: Green Living wrote: Been running scout out of boredom the past week. Having a blast as long as I don't have to engage in combat. I think it's pretty much on how the person uses it. And from what I'm guessing people that QQ on the forums about it use it like a frontline suit, but I've Been using it since the start of uprising and I thought it was fine. I can vouch for this... I squaded with fusion many many times... he is one of if not the best scout in the game. oh and welcome to the forums fusion I think this is the first thread ive ever seen you post. o7 o7 Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Dustbunny Durrr ReD or DeaD 7	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:39:00 - [20] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Chances of wining a straight up gun fight for me in a Scout suit is somewhere approaching zero. To be honest though, if you're in a straight up gun fight with the scout suit, you have done something wrong.

Cosgar ParagonX 8843	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:39:00 - [21] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Cosgar wrote: TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way welcome to the forums. you'll see: QQ about scouts QQ about TTK QQ about heavies QQ about tanks QQ about QQ to be honest the only buff the scout needs is a cpu buff. it doesn't need more health, or stealth. speed would be nice, but it's not needed. you'll notice many of the good scouts don't QQ about scouts as much. it's mainly the people who expect the scout to survive a barrage of shots or want to use it as a faster, stealthier frontline suit. Scouts don't have a role that makes them a better alternative to a medium frame. Stealth and speed go hand in hand, but they have very little utility. More CPU/PG, speed, cloaking (along with other EWAR alternatives) and an extra equipment slot could be a massive help. they could be a help, but think about the past. if scouts do get buffed, you'll have people like Fusion Commander who are so good, crybabies will yell NERF! again. don't get me wrong, i'm all for a scout buff, but i just don't want us to be back at square one the patch afterwards. I doubt we'll ever see the E3 or teleporting Uprising 1.0 scouts ever again. I do like the idea of them being the anti heavy and flaking gods, but that should be only one of those uses. As far as worrying about cyrbabies, let them cry. For a game genre that's supposed to breed bloodthirsty killers, I see a lot of whiny bitches on here. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 51	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:42:00 - [22] - Quote i'm going 20+ kills a game and topping the leader boards almost every game and I run a standard Valor g-I scout with 98% of ALL passives and core skills spec'd I run nothing but scout loadouts even tho I have logi lvl 3 assault lvl 2 and proto med frame imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: OSGR Valdez wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way If anything changes it'll be screamed "OP" Your scout suits shouldn't cost as much as they do though The shield tanks is a prime example to it was useless before 1.7 now it's spammed All suits suits have the same price I don't think CCP will just change it just for the Scout Then they should make me stealth incarnate. Right now, I have to waste 1/2 of my low slots just to avoid a Proto Scanner. Mind you, this is with maxed out passive dampening and Proto Scout. Thats around 3mil SP and wasting a low slot, all to avoid a piece of equipment that costs around 365k SP ( I THINK). Give me a decent cloak, and the ability to avoid PRO scanners without modules, and I will be a VERY happy scout. I will also stab you all. <---- Why I would be happy Agreed It doesn't make since that you have to put more dampening modules on a suit that is already suppose to help make you incognito. The built in dampening is almost little to from what I notice, even in pc my Scout.gko can't escape a proto scanner Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 25	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:44:00 - [24] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: i'm going 20+ kills a game and topping the leader boards almost every game and I run a standard Valor g-I scout with 98% of ALL passives and core skills spec'd I run nothing but scout loadouts even tho I have logi lvl 3 assault lvl 2 and proto med frame Who do you play against? Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 367	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:47:00 - [25] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way even in chromosome scouts were not op but they got a heavy nerf in uprising. Their lack in CPU/PG combined with their bad slot layout and rather weak bonusses. But what scouts are lackin the most is a viable role right now they are fun but useless. To make them OP in any way they must get a really huge boost...
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 51	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:49:00 - [26] - Quote Fusion Commander wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: i'm going 20+ kills a game and topping the leader boards almost every game and I run a standard Valor g-I scout with 98% of ALL passives and core skills spec'd I run nothing but scout loadouts even tho I have logi lvl 3 assault lvl 2 and proto med frame Who do you play against? everyone from pubs to FW imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 567	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:55:00 - [27] - Quote I've been using a dragonfly scout with a dren' AR, shield extender, armor plate, and basic armor repair and its been a blast. i'm averaging 20 kills at match and 5 deaths. Its a way different play style then my logi, Its all about flanking and sticking with CQC as opposed to going head on with any enemy at most ranges. Scouts just need to learn the proper playstyle but my dragonfly is a strafing beast and I can't wait to start skilling into the gallente scout.
Fusion Commander Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 27	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:55:00 - [28] - Quote Korvin Lomont wrote: Fusion Commander wrote: If they ever get buffed they'll be OP in some way even in chromosome scouts were not op but they got a heavy nerf in uprising. Their lack in CPU/PG combined with their bad slot layout and rather weak bonusses. But what scouts are lackin the most is a viable role right now they are fun but useless. To make them OP in any way they must get a really huge boost... I played a small bit of chromosome but never ran scout so I have no idea what it was like, heard that they had 2 equipment slots which sounds cool. Prey on the weak and you will survive, prey on the strong and you may live.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 51	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:59:00 - [29] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: I've been using a dragonfly scout with a dren' AR, shield extender, armor plate, and basic armor repair and its been a blast. i'm averaging 20 kills at match and 5 deaths. Its a way different play style then my logi, Its all about flanking and sticking with CQC as opposed to going head on with any enemy at most ranges. Scouts just need to learn the proper playstyle but my dragonfly is a strafing beast and I can't wait to start skilling into the gallente scout. try that same set up with a CR imagine the s#!t you can kill from a throne.... fu@#!n Rome.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 774	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:01:00 - [30] - Quote Dustbunny Durrr wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Chances of wining a straight up gun fight for me in a Scout suit is somewhere approaching zero. To be honest though, if you're in a straight up gun fight with the scout suit, you have done something wrong. I'd like to disagree with you Parody Dust 514 Lyrics Vote for Delt



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