6. Everyone just shuts the **** up and let CCP collect their data.

6. Everyone just shuts the **** up and let CCP collect their data.

Better to give the AVers a little most will accept compromise,and the AV radicals will then lose backing

2 things
1) leave the DS freaking acceleration alone, as helpful as the new modules are a dropships best defense remains its mobility, acceleration is a vital part of that, it effects how quickly we reduce our inertia, how quickly we can take evasive maneuvers, how quickly we can recover from near crippling knockback. you can mess about with our speed, you can mess about with our module slots and CPU/PG, but don't you ever, i repeat ever, try to nerf our acceleration, it is our lifeline, its what gives the ADS the best survivability out of all the dropship, touch it and i guarantee that the pilot community will create the biggest fuss in its history.

2)forges are fine, they are still very dangerous and deserve to be treated with respect, they're really good in regards to dropships right now, don't screw that up trying to compensate for tanks, if tanks are the issue, change something with the tanks. 1 forge gunner remains a potent threat, 2 forge gunners will burst right through a pythons hardener and booster, anymore then that and the sky becomes seriously unhealthy.

message from Godin: You're probably right, as you've gotten more time into it than me. I've only gotten about 3-5 hours into DS's so far for 1.7. as for the Forges, still think they should. I was going off of the DS expirence, as it seemed far easier to fly far enough to where I couldn't really be abused y the FG, and in and out of the area.

It's all debatable, and we're trying to come to an agreement over this, so at least you said something.

swarms definitely need a buff, as a shield dropship i actually laugh at proto swarms now, the only danger is the knockback, they need a buff. but forge still put me down very fast if im not carfulm hell a couple of times i've had 2 forges alpha me so quickly im dead before i'm registering the first hit.while the standard might need a small very small) buff the assault certainly doesn't, i still maintain that that weapon is a balance abomination and should be removed, its got high damage and the highest RoF among forge guns.

message from Godin: My point. This is forum polotics 101, and all of these ideas are although small, when put together are big really.

Message from Godin: (note: There will be lots of trolling in the intro. If you want the ideas, skip to the list. Otherwise, enjoy )

So, I've been watching you complaining bitches cry your eyes out about vehicles and AV for the past week. QQ this and QQ that about using old and obsolete tactics and expecting them to work to kill them, it only scares them off, and you all feels the need to ***** about it. And I've been seeing aselect few, including myself still killing with AV a lot.

The tears are great by the way, so keep it up. I bet you're making the

Forum politics is just that, politics. We sit around in our chairs at our computers, pretending that we have some background in game design or even dare to think we have some control on what does or doesn't get done about this game. We have our little debates that go 3, 5, even 15 pages long trying to voice our opinions. At the end of the day, nothing gets done and CCP does what they want while the 1% club that's supposed to represent us picks and chooses what they think should be brought to CCP's attention. We're worse than congress.

"nerf the acceleration of DS's across the board by 10%" no, just no, shield dropships need MORE acceleration, not less

"cooldown times are far too short" even with skills armor hardeners are fine, i think that if anything, shield hardeners CD are too long, not short, i like hit & run(main acc)not hit & hide, if CD's get longer vehicles will be **** again.

ewar

Here's how you fix modules, either create a massive stacking penalty to cool down, or pause the module cool down if another of the same type (not class/level) is active. That way vehicles can still extend their active time but can never perma run, or leave only 12 second attack windows.

They could also play sneaky and bait themselves after the first hardener where's off, but I think that would take more intelligence than the typical tanker can muster.