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Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6323	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:35:00 - [1] - Quote 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 374	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:37:00 - [2] - Quote ? So if I see you in FW on the Gallente side, I should kill you before you have the chance to kill me? Life is killing me.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6327	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:39:00 - [3] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: ? So if I see you in FW on the Gallente side, I should kill you before you have the chance to kill me? Nah, I grief Caldari. Go ahead and grief everyone though. Maybe that way FF will get fixed. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4100	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:40:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). I wish I could play right now, because I would run all Caldari and farm you without mercy. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1648	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:40:00 - [5] - Quote Come on, it's people like you who ruin Faction Warfare. I respect most of your threads, but this one? Come on. Just play the game. Send a ticket if you want to report this issue. Dont do it in the game, making other people see and then they do it as well. Minmatar Assault. Dual SMG user. 200 bullets of hellfire. I use speed and skill to win fights.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6327	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:41:00 - [6] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). I wish I could play right now, because I would run all Caldari and farm you without mercy. I have a magical tool at my disposal known as the power switch. None of my victims have used it so far. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
XJC1 Gankster's Paradice 10	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:41:00 - [7] - Quote Tank 514 is out. Grief 514 is in. Join Gankster's Paradice for Gall/Min Griefing. Chat Channel: Griefaholics No mics, no mains. 1.00 KDR maximum.
Serimos Haeraven Deep Space Republic 499	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:42:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Everything Dies wrote: ? So if I see you in FW on the Gallente side, I should kill you before you have the chance to kill me? Nah, I grief Caldari. Go ahead and grief everyone though. Maybe that way FF will get fixed. Although, i wouldn't consider making this glitch known to the public a good resolution to this either, you could have simply posted this in the technical support/bugs section, instead of in the general discussions. Unless, that is, that you want Dust to just be miserable in as many ways possible by exploiting errors in their coding and then making these errors known to literally every single person who plays Dust, making the problem about 100 times worse.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6327	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:42:00 - [9] - Quote XJC1 wrote: Tank 514 is out. Grief 514 is in. Ah, my inspiration. I salute you sir. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Knight Soiaire BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 3809	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:43:00 - [10] - Quote The real question is, how much hatemail have you received? International Hunt a Wolfman Day 16 / 18 / 20 of December

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6327	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:44:00 - [11] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: The real question is, how much hatemail have you received? Three hatemails from Thale's users and six total. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
noobsniper the 2nd The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 100	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:46:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). I will find you and I will kill you... just call me scumbag noob
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4936	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:47:00 - [13] - Quote I executed 7 cowards last night in FW. As a commissar of the Faith such is my duty. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6327	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [14] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). I will find you and I will kill you... Have fun. I don't play FW much anymore, except on my alt griefers. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4154	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [15] - Quote I do -NOT- support this in any way and saying that I do is slander. I support the broken mechanics being fixed, I don't feel it's necessary to abuse them to death in order to get the point across. If you exploit a system with the justification that it's to get it fixed faster, you're the scum of the earth. forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201
Serimos Haeraven Deep Space Republic 499	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:48:00 - [16] - Quote In any case it's a good time to be a dropship pilot, flying by and watching all the idiots on the ground abusing glitches CCP didn't intend for.
XJC1 Gankster's Paradice 12	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:53:00 - [17] - Quote As a Caldari Loyalist myself, I must salute you for your Thales destruction. Cowards like that are the reason we're losing so badly in the first place. Join Gankster's Paradice for Gall/Min Griefing. Chat Channel: Griefaholics No mics, no mains. 1.00 KDR maximum.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6330	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:54:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I do -NOT- support this in any way and saying that I do is slander. I support the broken mechanics being fixed, I don't feel it's necessary to abuse them to death in order to get the point across. If you exploit a system with the justification that it's to get it fixed faster, you're the scum of the earth. Confirming endorsement. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 394	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:58:00 - [19] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I do -NOT- support this in any way and saying that I do is slander. I support the broken mechanics being fixed, I don't feel it's necessary to abuse them to death in order to get the point across. If you exploit a system with the justification that it's to get it fixed faster, you're the scum of the earth. unfortunately its the way CCP works, until you prove its broken. if you are up for it, lets squad with someone with a PVR, log onto an alt and show how the griefing works in a video we can submit as a bug.
Oswald Rehnquist 900	Posted - 2013.12.16 22:59:00 - [20] - Quote I think this fits here as well Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Lol, do you really suck that bad? I see the mediocrity that scrubs call the "metagame" is bleeding over from EVE. And you p*ssies call snipers cowards. Lol. You're just a frustrated warped old merc that's blind to opprotunity. Not really, similar to how the internet lets people let our their true selves of sorts due to a lack of punishment and anonymity, how people approach an open ended game like this speaks of their own moral system. Like this guy for example I"m sure in real life he doesn't do this but this is most likely because of punishments more so than moral character. An example of this would be flash mobs, where many kids wouldn't steal on their own due the idea of increased risk but throw in flash mobs and they are more willing to partake in theft and destruction of property. Meaning it wasn't the immorality of taking or damaging somebody's possessions that held them back previously but the idea of getting caught, and with flash mobs they opt for it due to the anonymity. The way you treat other people behind screens says a bit about your actual moral system. It's not a direct 1:1, but operative is correct in his assessment unless you actually open up the same way in your dealings with other people out of anonymity. Otherwise you are saving your worst traits only when you are safe from any consequences. New Eden provides this opportunity for players to unleash their sociopathic tendencies, so you aren't breaking anything and are in fact quite in line with the game. As a contrast, I on the other hand can't even AFK in a pub stomp match without feeling extremely guilty, to where I can't even do it, let alone some of the other more harmful meta games one can make. So any negative response you get on this would mainly be from those who are themselves personally limited by their own morality. Below 28 dB

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6330	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:01:00 - [21] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I think this fits here as well Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Lol, do you really suck that bad? I see the mediocrity that scrubs call the "metagame" is bleeding over from EVE. And you p*ssies call snipers cowards. Lol. You're just a frustrated warped old merc that's blind to opprotunity. Not really, similar to how the internet lets people let our their true selves of sorts due to a lack of punishment and anonymity, how people approach an open ended game like this speaks of their own moral system. Like this guy for example I"m sure in real life he doesn't do this but this is most likely because of punishments more so than moral character. An example of this would be flash mobs, where many kids wouldn't steal on their own due the idea of increased risk but throw in flash mobs and they are more willing to partake in theft and destruction of property. Meaning it wasn't the immorality of taking or damaging somebody's possessions that held them back previously but the idea of getting caught, and with flash mobs they opt for it due to the anonymity. The way you treat other people behind screens says a bit about your actual moral system. It's not a direct 1:1, but operative is correct in his assessment unless you actually open up the same way in your dealings with other people out of anonymity. Otherwise you are saving your worst traits only when you are safe from any consequences. New Eden provides this opportunity for players to unleash their sociopathic tendencies, so you aren't breaking anything and are in fact quite in line with the game. As a contrast, I on the other hand can't even AFK in a pub stomp match without feeling extremely guilty, to where I can't even do it, let alone some of the other more harmful meta games one can make. So any negative response you get on this would mainly be from those who are themselves personally limited by their own morality. A pretty decent analysis. ... I'm a terrible person. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 4155	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:02:00 - [22] - Quote virgindestroyer7 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I do -NOT- support this in any way and saying that I do is slander. I support the broken mechanics being fixed, I don't feel it's necessary to abuse them to death in order to get the point across. If you exploit a system with the justification that it's to get it fixed faster, you're the scum of the earth. unfortunately its the way CCP works, until you prove its broken. if you are up for it, lets squad with someone with a PVR, log onto an alt and show how the griefing works in a video we can submit as a bug. Someone already posted a video - I'm not getting on until Wednesday as I've already hit my cap and don't intend to play this game any longer than I have to. Just as well, I don't intend to support this kind of behavior any more or less than truly necessary. If CCP wants to ignore the problem, let them. Their game. forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m= (Frames)1544109 (Advertisement)1556863 (Packs)1570030 (Lag Hunt) 1570201
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6333	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:21:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: virgindestroyer7 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I do -NOT- support this in any way and saying that I do is slander. I support the broken mechanics being fixed, I don't feel it's necessary to abuse them to death in order to get the point across. If you exploit a system with the justification that it's to get it fixed faster, you're the scum of the earth. unfortunately its the way CCP works, until you prove its broken. if you are up for it, lets squad with someone with a PVR, log onto an alt and show how the griefing works in a video we can submit as a bug. Someone already posted a video - I'm not getting on until Wednesday as I've already hit my cap and don't intend to play this game any longer than I have to. Just as well, I don't intend to support this kind of behavior any more or less than truly necessary. If CCP wants to ignore the problem, let them. Their game. Oh, I'm sure it'll get fixed in a year or two. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
XJC1 Gankster's Paradice 13	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:24:00 - [24] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I think this fits here as well Oswald Rehnquist wrote: Jadu Wen wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Lol, do you really suck that bad? I see the mediocrity that scrubs call the "metagame" is bleeding over from EVE. And you p*ssies call snipers cowards. Lol. You're just a frustrated warped old merc that's blind to opprotunity. Not really, similar to how the internet lets people let our their true selves of sorts due to a lack of punishment and anonymity, how people approach an open ended game like this speaks of their own moral system. Like this guy for example I"m sure in real life he doesn't do this but this is most likely because of punishments more so than moral character. An example of this would be flash mobs, where many kids wouldn't steal on their own due the idea of increased risk but throw in flash mobs and they are more willing to partake in theft and destruction of property. Meaning it wasn't the immorality of taking or damaging somebody's possessions that held them back previously but the idea of getting caught, and with flash mobs they opt for it due to the anonymity. The way you treat other people behind screens says a bit about your actual moral system. It's not a direct 1:1, but operative is correct in his assessment unless you actually open up the same way in your dealings with other people out of anonymity. Otherwise you are saving your worst traits only when you are safe from any consequences. New Eden provides this opportunity for players to unleash their sociopathic tendencies, so you aren't breaking anything and are in fact quite in line with the game. As a contrast, I on the other hand can't even AFK in a pub stomp match without feeling extremely guilty, to where I can't even do it, let alone some of the other more harmful meta games one can make. So any negative response you get on this would mainly be from those who are themselves personally limited by their own morality. We're all playing a game that revolves around mass killing. Let's not go throwing stones. Join Gankster's Paradice for Gall/Min Griefing. Chat Channel: Griefaholics No mics, no mains. 1.00 KDR maximum.
Oswald Rehnquist 902	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:32:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: A pretty decent analysis. ... I'm a terrible person. lol, I think another aspects is the dehumanization process which people seem to forget that we are actually dealing with people. Not only is this common with video games but with driving (where we see cars as obstacles), or when we get speeding tickets (dump cop has better things to do), etc, we usually can displace them as something else to where it is able to bypass our own moral systems. People are genetically predisposed to reading faces, take that away and our evolutionary moral traits tend to fail because they weren't selected to function in autonomy. And in regards to a competitive game atmosphere face to face, I play tennis a lot mostly with people my age, I'm in my mid 20's but on specific days there is a group of old guys (45-80 range) who I play with. Some of them are still mobile and experience enough to kick my ass but one of them in particular is not very mobile and can't walk very well but enjoys tennis as that is his only social experience he gets. When I play him in doubles I obviously don't do drop shots on the poor guy not because I'm not allowed but because it ruins his experience. I think most people playing the old guy I described would also not be doing drop shots on him, but that is more to do with face to face encounters vs the faceless screen phenomena we experience as gamers. Griefing is much easier when you don't have to see the effects it has peoples disposition. Below 28 dB
Oswald Rehnquist 902	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:35:00 - [26] - Quote XJC1 wrote: We're all playing a game that revolves around mass killing. Let's not go throwing stones. The morality is not the content of the game, we could be playing Thomas the train racing games, and if we use lag switching to win that would also fall into the same area of helplessness and the lack of sportsmanship. Below 28 dB
Aqua-Regia 578	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:37:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I executed 7 cowards last night in FW. As a commissar of the Faith such is my duty. So did I, Amarr don't need randoms GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòñGòºGò¼GòíHELLOGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòúJJIKKGòáGòò
Vance Vyth DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:46:00 - [28] - Quote XJC1 wrote: As a Caldari Loyalist myself, I must salute you for your Thales destruction. Cowards like that are the reason we're losing so badly in the first place. Are you Serious? You're a tk'er and saying that people who uses thales are cowards!? Do you have any idea what a REAL sniper does for a team? of course not because you're ignorant and have no real gun game. Snipers like me who can shoot 500+ meters, and head shot a little spec on a screen , snipers who can defend an objective from being hacked are REAL snipers... you do not no anything about that. On Caldari side in Fraction Warefare I could prevent a whole team from hacking an objective on certain maps with thales, also me and any sniper who just sits back and kills fools over a distance are not detrimental to the team... because we rarely lose clone count and most likely the rest of the team on the ground; in the first place dont match the other team in skill. so GTFO TK'er. spits on you (a¦ê+ä-£a¦ê) n++Gö¦pâçGòÉGÇö _ - (a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ) "60+"
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 284	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:49:00 - [29] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: 82 teamkills. 82 LP. I find this most amusing. In retribution for the griefing of my fellow Gallentean Aeon Amadi (who completely endorses this thread ) and more importantly for my own personal amusement, I have taken it upon myself to demonstrate how ridiculously broken FW friendly fire mechanics are. Here is the tally so far: 231 'friendlies' killed 18 people kicked from match 5 Thale's destroyed (seriously, why would you use that in FW?) And I have suffered a grand total of... drum roll 0 kicks! Exactly one person has turned around and attempted to injector farm me back so far. I wonder how many morons will die before they adapt. Working as intended(TM). I wish I could play right now, because I would run all Caldari and farm you without mercy. I have a magical tool at my disposal known as the power switch. None of my victims have used it so far. Right they should have to shut down their system and reload the game rather then you just not be a total douche bag.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Ahrendee Mercenaries 512	Posted - 2013.12.16 23:52:00 - [30] - Quote I know I will get hate and I know you don't care but I'd like to say this. Instead of demonstrating how broken the mechanic is (even though it's obvious) you are just being the problem. Great job ruining someones fun. Yeah, yeah, tell me how I am crying or some lame s*it like that. Sworn Shield of Cat Merc.



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