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calvin b
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:06:00 -
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I was just in a match I can clearly here it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad.
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Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:18:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly here it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad.
Wut? Wouldn't the RR's spool-up time make turbo functions useless on it? |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:45:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Wut? Wouldn't the RR's spool-up time make turbo functions useless on it?
Yes...
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:01:00 -
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I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:14:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim.
Which controller?
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:15:00 -
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There's no way, the RR is turbo proof. It has to be.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:19:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. Which controller?
I can't see a controller playing the game for you.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:22:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:There's no way, the RR is turbo proof. It has to be.
Unfortunately its not. There is three gens out right now and the fourth is soon to hit the market. The one I did research on has over 100 Mods that are programed and allows up to 7 active at a time.
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
511
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:22:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. Which controller? I can't see a controller playing the game for you.
So it is kb/m.
I'm pretty upset by this.
I started playing with the RR and was happy that finally there was a weapon that wasn't tarnished by the whole modded turbo BS.
sad face.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:23:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. Which controller? I can't see a controller playing the game for you.
There is. It was built for COD and BF but it is guaranteed to run on any 1st person shooter and has a one year no questions asked money back guarantee.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
354
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:41:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Wut? Wouldn't the RR's spool-up time make turbo functions useless on it? Yes, unless Assault. Still shouldn't matter for autos though, only semis with large RPM limits like the old Tac Rifles.
Even the Auto variant has spool up time so no modded controlers for the RR except those that can be programmed to overdue the delay but wouldn't those in general lower the rof as well? |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:54:00 -
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I call BS. Link us to this magic controller or post a video of you using it on Dust. At the moment you're starting to sound as ridiculous as the guy who claimed his controller let him jump twice as high as a scout in a heavy suit. No controller can change a game hosted server side rather than client side.
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:19:00 -
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yeah I don't see how this is possible either. If you look at turbo controller sites, you actually choose which button to link to the auto-fire. If you link it R1, what you are effectively doing is permanently spooling up the gun... which is a prerequisite to firing. Depends on the reset delay but I don't see how this is practical on these weapons. On the TAC AR sure... on other semi-automatic weapons yes, but not on a fully auto spool up weapon. |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
622
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:26:00 -
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proof?
LOGIC! NO! IT BURRRRNNNSSS!!!!!!
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:27:00 -
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I have to agree with the Justicar here. I can see CR's TacAr's or ScR's but not RR's.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:39:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:I call BS. Link us to this magic controller or post a video of you using it on Dust. At the moment you're starting to sound as ridiculous as the guy who claimed his controller let him jump twice as high as a scout in a heavy suit. No controller can change a game hosted server side rather than client side.
I rather not give it out on the general forum such as this. I will post what they have written on there website instead so you can see for yourself. This is not a magical controller. From the website.
The unique class menu system lets you know which class you are in and which mod is active based on the color or the LEDs
This is a complete sleeper mod meaning it is 100% stealth. Friends will not know you have a mod. 100% undetectable.
No additional buttons to worry about. The mod works completely with the buttons that the controller already has on it
All of the mods are completely adjustable. This means you can adjust your favorite exclusive mod to your liking
Each of the 3 classes and 6 sub classes can be assigned a different rapid fire speed and completely different mods that can also be fully adjusted individually
Up to 23 exclusive mod modes, Rapid fire, Akimbo, Burst, Jitter, Auto aim, Auto tracking, Active reload, Quick melee, Quick scope, Drop shot, and tacticle mapping.
RAPID FIRE DESCRIPTION
Rapid fire is when you press the RT trigger to fire your weapon and the chip rapidly fires the trigger simulating you pressing the RT trigger over and over very fast. Auto Aim and Auto Tracking
AIM & AUTO AIM
Any modes that have GÇÿAimGÇÖ activated mean that by pulling RT to fire, it will automatically pull LT for you so you donGÇÖt have to manually aim down the sight. One less thing to think about.
Auto aim is similar, but for offline games that have an GÇÿaim assistGÇÖ option, the Auto Aim will automatically track the enemies for you so you donGÇÖt even need to aim at them! Ultra Fire and Jitter Feature Description ULTRA FIRE / JITTER DESCRIPTION
Ultra fire is an enhancement of Rapid Fire to make semi and fully automatic guns fire even faster. This mode is only available for Call of Duty games up to Black Ops. Any CODs that donGÇÖt support it will just cause the gun to swap weapons very fast. Drop Shot Feature Description DROPSHOT DESCRIPTION
Still the only chip on the market to do Drop Shot fully and not do half a job. When you pull the RT the chip will instantly and automatically drop you to the floor while doing any other action on the mode you are in (such as aim for you and rapid fire), then as soon as you release RT it will stand you back up! Akimbo Dual Trigger Description DUAL TRIGGER / AKIMBO DESCRIPTION
Also sometimes called Akimbo, Dual Trigger is Rapid Fire but for dual wielding guns like Dual Pistols in Call of Duty and dual wielding in HaloGÇÖs etcGǪ Just pull the fire trigger to rapid fire both triggers. If you have a single weapon in this mode you can hold LT (to aim) before pulling RT to fire and it will rapid fire the single shot weapon ok too. Quick Scope Description
QUICK SCOPE / SNIPER DESCRIPTION
With quick scope, as soon as you look down the sight by holding LT, the chip will automatically hold your breath for you to steady your aim, which you would usually have to click in the left thumb stick to do. This makes scoping much easier. In Tap mode you just tap LT quickly and let go and the chip will keep LT pressed then fire shortly after.
Jump Shot Description JUMP SHOT DESCRIPTION *ELITE & LIGHT CHIP ONLY*
This is identical to drop shot but instead of dropping to the floor, you will continually jump. Burst Shot Description BURST SHOT DESCRIPTION
Burst fire is just Rapid Fire but with a limited number of bullets. So 3 Burst will rapidly fire 3 shots then stop until you release the trigger. Perfect for snipers and ammo preservation. Fast Reload Description
FAST RELOAD DESCRIPTION
Works specifically on Black Ops and Gears of War 2 & 3. For Fast Reload, when you reload your weapon, the Chip will automatically GÇÿglitchGÇÖ on Black Ops about half a second before finishing allowing you to finish reloading that little bit quicker. This works for FN Fal, Famas and a few others.
Auto Fast Reload *ELITE SOLIDER MOD ONLY* Auto-Fast Reload is the same as Fast Reload but you donGÇÖt have to press reload, you just let go of RT after firing, and it will reload for you. Auto Run Description AUTO RUN DESCRIPTION *ELITE & LIGHT CHIP ONLY*
One of the little hidden extras of the A3 is a new feature called Auto-Run. How annoying is it that you have to click in the left thumb stick all the time to run in games like Call of Duty? Not only that but it increases the wear on your controller. Not any more, not with Auto Run!With Auto-run turned on all you need to start running is press and release LT. Now when you push up on the left thumb stick you will instantly run continually. To de-activate a run just press any other button such as A, B, X, Y, RT, RB etcGǪ To activate it again just pull LT. Auto Stand Description
AUTO STAND DESCRIPTION *ELITE CHIP ONLY*
In Drop-Shot modes, after dropping you to the floor and releasing RT the chip automatically stands you back up. If you would prefer it to leave you down after releasing RT then you can toggle the feature on/off. Battlefield Auto Spotting Description
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:40:00 -
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BATTLEFIELD AUTO SPOTTING *ELITE CHIP ONLY*
A much desired feature for you Battlefield fans is Auto-Spot. In a multiplayer game or Campaign, you can GÇÿspotGÇÖ enemies by looking at them and pressing Back button. This can be very difficult to do during gameplay as the Back button is in a difficult spot. What Auto-spot does is as soon as you press LT to look down your weapon, or even when you shoot with RT the chip will start spotting for you (pressing Back) thereby instantly spotting any enemy you every shoot or look at!As some of you may know, pressing Back too often results in you getting blocked for a few seconds from spotting. DonGÇÖt worry GÇô the A3 chip bypasses all of that and you never get a block. Layout Description MULTI LAYOUT DESCRIPTION
Some users like to use alternate button layouts for the games. For Call of Duty the popular alternative is Tactile Layout, which swaps the Drop button and Knifing button (B and Right Thumb) around, so B will knife and the right thumb will drop. For battlefield 3 the dropping is by default the right thumb stick.Obviously this causes problems with the Drop Shot feature.When you use Drop Shots with remapping turned on, it will use the right thumb stick for any B actions.
There you have it
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:52:00 -
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Still doesn't explain how it works for DUST.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:56:00 -
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calvin b wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:There's no way, the RR is turbo proof. It has to be. Unfortunately its not. There is three gens out right now and the fourth is soon to hit the market. The one I did research on has over 100 Mods that are programed and allows up to 7 active at a time.
If you want, I can test it, but i really doubt it would work anyway. it has the charge up time, so it's impossible for it to even shoot with a modded controller, you probably listened to an assault RR. It's just like when you use a mod controller with a HMG: impossible.
But I understand that a "good" way to use a mod controller is with the combat rifle....
Tank 514.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 10:25:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Still doesn't explain how it works for DUST.
Spoke to a rep and they have technicians who build the controller specifically for the game you want. Yes they are aware of Dust and they Guarantee it to be compatible will pre program it before it arrives. Its expensive if you want to spend roughly $150.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.12.16 10:29:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:Still doesn't explain how it works for DUST. Spoke to a rep and they have technicians who build the controller specifically for the game you want. Yes they are aware of Dust and they Guarantee it to be compatible will pre program it before it arrives. Its expensive if you want to spend roughly $150. Thank you, that's better. But... RR Spool Time and all that. Get around THAT.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.12.16 10:33:00 -
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Found it http://www.bigshotmodz.com/ps3-features
Now to break this controller.
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Zero Notion
Wraith Company
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Posted - 2013.12.16 10:33:00 -
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Bummer, they actually mod out the internal hardware of the controller to respond in pre-programmed functions requested by the customer. It'd be easy to do pretty much anything with custom software/controller along those lines, even take into account for the charge/spool time. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:09:00 -
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None of the things that controller can do can circumvent game mechanics, such as the need to spend time spooling up the RR every time you release the trigger. These kinds of modded controllers function entirely of automatically triggering button presses really quickly upon a single button press, for example to make you crouch and shoot almost instantaneously. There is no combination of button presses that will shorten or entirely circumvent the spool up time on the RR, so it is not possible to do so with a controller. The controller can not tell the game that the RR has already spooled up because that calculation is not performed client side; rather the controller tells the server that the trigger has been pressed and starts the spool up timer and sends a message to your PS3 to tell it that the weapon has been fired. In order to fire faster than the set ROF on a weapon, the controller can tell the server that the button has been tapped and released continuously really really fast but with the RR every time the server is told the trigger has been released, it will reset the spool up timer.
Things like quick reload controls are reliant on the fact that many games have animation cancelling but this has mostly been removed by CCP. For instance, pre1.6 you would have been able to have constant scan, whilst being able to shoot because the controller would have cancelled the scan animation before it completed but the scan would go through. Or you could have done an instant crounch/stand to undo the overheat on scrambler rifles. Fortunately, both these workarounds were patched out in 1.7 and there is no longer any way to cancel those mechanics early.
It's also important to note that many of the functions listed for that controller are specific to COD or BF games, so will not automatically be possible for Dust514. For example, on the subject of the auto-aim features, it seems that those descriptions relate to games where auto-aim only occurs when ADS, so the controller just taps the ADS and fire button really quickly, however this is not how AA works in Dust514 because the AA is always active and not only ADS.
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Cpl Foster USMC
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:39:00 -
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here's another...
Sad that people need this
just scroll down for the mods....
how the hell are some of you isk poor...??...free isk is everywhere.....
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TheSprayNPray2
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:42:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad.
i have a modded controller and the spool of up negates that just saying. I got my modded controller all white with blood splatter all over it. The analog sticks glow up and change colors. Trust me i dont need the cheats, it just looks pretty |
Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:42:00 -
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weapons can't shoot any faster than their normal RoF. Burst weapons have intervals that they cannot shoot faster than. Modded controllers are a myth in these cases. |
NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:58:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad.
Only a very terrible shooter would try to use a modded controller to begin with. But to use one for the RR is noob 101... Viziam SCR would be more deadly with a modded controller however. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:04:00 -
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ah this makes sense I was facing an AE player with an assault RR and he was firing faster then I had heard any RR fire before, and faster then I remembered it firing, I figured it was just the proto RR fired faster or something.
this would explain it |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:06:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:There's no way, the RR is turbo proof. It has to be. The RR is turbo proof in the same way that CCP's afk mechanic was rubber-band proof lol
Modern controllers are essentially self-contained computers and highly adapatable.
Is it possible for the PS3 to reliably determine if a non-original controller is being used? My guess is no but if anybody has somthing better than a guess please post.
I support SP rollover.
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calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:17:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:There's no way, the RR is turbo proof. It has to be. The RR is turbo proof in the same way that CCP's afk mechanic was rubber-band proof lol Modern controllers are essentially self-contained computers and highly adapatable. Is it possible for the PS3 to reliably determine if a non-original controller is being used? My guess is no but if anybody has somthing better than a guess please post.
Nobody will admit the use these controllers. So we will never know if they work or not. I would like to try one on COD Zombies and see if I can get to the fabled 50th level. Highest ever 48
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CrotchGrab 360
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Posted - 2013.12.16 18:50:00 -
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reminds of me MAG and how everybody thought ZBake was a good player.
that was until I was on the ground next to him bleeding out (you can control the camera that way) and saw his T1 sniper rifle firiing as fast as a Tamsen.
I've seen a video of where somebody created a program to play the PC game for him.
it had auto-lock and auto-shoot features, it could see people through walls, it turned enemy's red which is known as a skin-hack or camo-hack. combined with modded rate of fire.
I mean COD: GHOSTS was hacked DAY ONE on the PS3.
If you people think that NOBODY uses modded controllers on this game, you're wrong.
if you can compete, somebody will cheat! i just made that up. |
CrotchGrab 360
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Posted - 2013.12.16 18:51:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad. Only a very terrible shooter would try to use a modded controller to begin with. But to use one for the RR is noob 101... Viziam SCR would be more deadly with a modded controller however.
people do that too. how else do you think they deal 1000-12000 damage in less than a second with the SCR? |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:59:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:reminds of me MAG and how everybody thought ZBake was a good player.
that was until I was on the ground next to him bleeding out (you can control the camera that way) and saw his T1 sniper rifle firiing as fast as a Tamsen.
I've seen a video of where somebody created a program to play the PC game for him.
it had auto-lock and auto-shoot features, it could see people through walls, it turned enemy's red which is known as a skin-hack or camo-hack. combined with modded rate of fire.
I mean COD: GHOSTS was hacked DAY ONE on the PS3.
If you people think that NOBODY uses modded controllers on this game, you're wrong.
if you can compete, somebody will cheat! i just made that up. You can't hack Dust514 because the calculations are all done server side; those games where people could do those things have the calculations done client side, so you can alter the software to be able to make that stuff possible. As previously stated, you can't change Dust's game mechanics with any program or controller - you can only use a controller to take advantage of quick actions like rapid firing to negate dispersion or insta-crouch-shoot-stand to increase aim on the move.
People may well be using modded controllers in this game but not for the vast array of things that a lot of you seem to think.
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Smooth Assassin
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:00:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad. ... try the gun out it's automatic lol not single shot.
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
1964
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:12:00 -
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From what I know, modded controllers cannot re-program or re-design a weapon. A modded controller will just allow you to fire at the maximum rate of fire programmed for that weapon. This is totally pointless on an automatic weapon, since the ROF is set in stone and you cannot exceed it by fast-tapping.
Modded controllers can also beat the recoil build-up, as they reset the input every time a round is fired. So it might be useful to kill the recoil on the AR, for example, since you are actually giving single inputs (750 per minutes) instead of a continued one and the recoil does not increase over time.
Modded controllers cannot overwrite algorithms to change the ROF cap on a weapon.
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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:14:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. You do know to make auto aim you would have to hack the ps3s software right? No modded controller no matter how good it is cannot aim for you. That is called hacks not a modded controller. |
calvin b
SCAVENGER'S DAUGHTER
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:18:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad. ... try the gun out it's automatic lol not single shot.
I have and I have it skilled to proficiency lvl 3. I know what it sounds like, what it feels like, and I can tell when it is going faster than the rate of fire it was intended for.
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Assault rail rifle you idiot.
I can completely guarantee that no one is using a modded controller with the rail rifle or assault rail rifle.
Spool up time you idiot.
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad. No you didn't, you are hallucinating. |
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Happy Violentime wrote:Assault rail rifle you idiot.
I can completely guarantee that no one is using a modded controller with the rail rifle or assault rail rifle.
Spool up time you idiot.
By the way, did i mention you're an idiot?
Wow the lack of intelligence with this one. Just like they never hacked COD on the first day of release. You have no idea as most do not on what can and cannot be. Never say something cannot be done and deny it when it can be.
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calvin b wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Assault rail rifle you idiot.
I can completely guarantee that no one is using a modded controller with the rail rifle or assault rail rifle.
Spool up time you idiot.
By the way, did i mention you're an idiot? Wow the lack of intelligence with this one. Just like they never hacked COD on the first day of release. You have no idea as most do not on what can and cannot be. Never say something cannot be done and deny it when it can be.
Lol, I'm not the one wearing a tin foil hat.
Just skill Rail rifle up to lvl 4 and try the assault version and stop being an idiot.
PS: I use a rapid fire modded controller with a forge gun - see how ******* dumb that sounds? Rail rifle has a charge up time too. So nope, that controller ain't gonna work son.
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How in the hell does a mod controller make a full-auto rifle, like the RR, fire faster than it than it's RoF ceiling. The vanilla version has a hard ceiling of 466 round per minute (which it already fires at) and the assault variant as a hard ceiling of 600. Can't get around the spool up and can't get around the RoF ceiling. So how the hell is a mod controller supposed to work here. I call bull****.
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:How in the hell does a mod controller make a full-auto rifle, like the RR, fire faster than it's RoF ceiling. The vanilla version has a hard ceiling of 466 round per minute (which it already fires at) and the assault variant has a hard ceiling of 600. Can't get around the spool up and can't get around the RoF ceiling. So how the hell is a mod controller supposed to work here. I call bull****.
There is video's showing two weapons side by side firing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aCx36lyO3Xc
See video
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calvin b wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:How in the hell does a mod controller make a full-auto rifle, like the RR, fire faster than it's RoF ceiling. The vanilla version has a hard ceiling of 466 round per minute (which it already fires at) and the assault variant has a hard ceiling of 600. Can't get around the spool up and can't get around the RoF ceiling. So how the hell is a mod controller supposed to work here. I call bull****. There is video's showing two weapons side by side firing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aCx36lyO3XcSee video
I don't know anything about that game they used as a demo, but I still don't see how they can beat the RoF hard cap in dust, with out hacking the game which isn't possible, because everything exists server side. You show me a video of it happening with weapons in dust and I might believe it.
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Calvin b - you continue to preach this stuff and ignore all the rebuttals I've thrown at you, not even attempting to give reasonable answers to what I've said several times in this thread. You have not shown a thread of evidence that any modded controller can actually do the things you have stated in Dust514, which is a very different game to CoD or BF or most other shooters both in mechanics and architecture (mainly that it is a server side game).
Until you actually own one of these controllers and have concrete evidence (not just taking the word of the manufacturers) that your claims are possible, please stop scare-mongering.
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Django Quik wrote:Calvin b - you continue to preach this stuff and ignore all the rebuttals I've thrown at you, not even attempting to give reasonable answers to what I've said several times in this thread. You have not shown a thread of evidence that any modded controller can actually do the things you have stated in Dust514, which is a very different game to CoD or BF or most other shooters both in mechanics and architecture (mainly that it is a server side game).
Until you actually own one of these controllers and have concrete evidence (not just taking the word of the manufacturers) that your claims are possible, please stop scare-mongering.
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You are trying to tell me you have not seen this. The person spinning in circles as they jump over and over in perfect timing. They are not firing for they are AFKing. Watch your surroundings and you will see the person or persons spinning in a circle(rubberband) as they jump continuously and never stop, last time I checked there was a thing called stamina. The next time I see it I will post a video to prove to you it does exist in Dust.
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everytime someone uses the word hack when something got modified or a loophole abused I laugh at the level of education... you obviously do not know what "hack" means. hacking does not exist in real life in the way people use the term, hacking is a term from business that came to the average scrub through movies. hacking simply means "quick code solution" in the world of programming.
again I repeat, hacking is not possible once a software is finished, hacking means you change the raw code of a software. please show me how you debug a complex software and change the raw code, I would really like to see that happen
modifing & abusing holes that are within a software is something completely different. and btw CoD was not "hacked", someone "clever" modified data game files through a HEX editor on his PC. this is neither magic nor hacking but happens when stuff is resolved client side and when programmers do a poor job.
and regarding those modded controllers, let me educate you, those are usually regular ps3 controllers with extra microchips soldered in between the circuit. those microchips contain software that were written on a computer and the software just emulates user input at higher speed than a regular human could press the buttons. a modded controller can only do what a regular controller does except FASTER. a controller will not magically aim for you and the controller wont break the bounderies withing a game. if a modded controller allows you to shoot faster than it was already possible before, just a human user input could not do it that fast. if a seller states that a controller will do aim for you, he is simply cheating his customers (the irony)
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Jack McReady wrote:everytime someone uses the word hack when something got modified or a loophole abused I laugh at the level of education... you obviously do not know what "hack" means. hacking does not exist in real life in the way people use the term, hacking is a term from business that came to the average scrub through movies. hacking simply means "quick code solution" in the world of programming. again I repeat, hacking is not possible once a software is finished, hacking means you change the raw code of a software. please show me how you debug a complex software and change the raw code, I would really like to see that happen modifing & abusing holes that are within a software is something completely different. and btw CoD was not "hacked", someone "clever" modified data game files through a HEX editor on his PC. this is neither magic nor hacking but happens when stuff is resolved client side and when programmers do a poor job. and regarding those modded controllers, let me educate you, those are usually regular ps3 controllers with extra microchips soldered in between the circuit. those microchips contain software that were written on a computer and the software just emulates user input at higher speed than a regular human could press the buttons. a modded controller can only do what a regular controller does except FASTER. a controller will not magically aim for you and the controller wont break the bounderies withing a game. if a modded controller allows you to shoot faster then it was already possible before, just a human user input could not do it that fast. if a seller states that a controller will do aim for you, he is simply cheating his customers (the irony) PS: "turbo" input does not work with the rail rifle. it has a spool up time and a fixed rate of fire.
Hacking is a term used when someone uses a program to modify an existing program or infiltrate another system. The term is widely used and this shows your ignorance in the subject. The term hack is loosely used in a manner of subjects, when someone says they have been hacked they could mean a few things. Here is a few ways to say hack with out meaning the term of hacking or infiltration of a system. You a total f***** hack job. Hack the planet. So when someone says something has been hacked it means for some that the original idea or subject has been changed. Now can you please get off your I am trying to be smart and sounding like a dumb A** horse.
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Until i find someone who claims to use modded controls i will always call bull on these threads. Hell iv been accused before and my response is this "YOUR BAD AT THIS GAME" im sorry some people are just flat out better than you get over it. Spaming the trigger at silly speeds is perfectly and humanly possable just look at koren starcraft 2 players
This whole modded controls is just players trying to find somthing to blame cuz they cant admit they got beat
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. Which controller? I can't see a controller playing the game for you. It's infantry, they'll use any stupid crutch.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 11:34:00 -
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Turbo Controllers are simply a lazier way of achieving whaf can be done with a twitchy trigger finger!
Recoil mechanics in this game are terrible (no offense CCP, but it has to be said),
first off there is no recoil per shot, recoil doesn't kick in until about 15 rounds into a mag, and even then its not accurately modeled, it just goes straight up!
Secondly any movement from recoil can be reset when you stop firing, the barrell may move up a few feet getting through 59 rounds in a 60 round mag, but if you pause that last bullet hit the samebplace as the first!
finally with a modded controller or twitchy finger, its possible to do thid without suffering a loss of ROF , you can get recoil mechanics reset but the gun doesn't have to stop firing!
Thats a problem with all four rifles, fix that and the rifles will be balanced!
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:calvin b wrote:I have done research on some modded controllers and there are ones that can be programed to surpass this small delay. If they use the automatic RR, there is a program in Mods that will empty the clip as soon as you pull the trigger, it is then up to you set your setting to empty the clip at a certain rate. Ever wonder how someone can kill you faster than you can blink with a scrambler pistol, they have a mod that would fire all the rounds in one shot while the controller auto locks on to the target you are aiming at and cannot miss. They also have a mod that auto aims only on head shots no need to aim. Which controller? I can't see a controller playing the game for you. It's infantry, they'll use any stupid crutch.
Says the guy who sits in a tank 24/7!
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Until i find someone who claims to use modded controls i will always call bull on these threads. Hell iv been accused before and my response is this "YOUR BAD AT THIS GAME" im sorry some people are just flat out better than you get over it. Spaming the trigger at silly speeds is perfectly and humanly possable just look at koren starcraft 2 players
This whole modded controls is just players trying to find somthing to blame cuz they cant admit they got beat
I know someone who is going to buy one for COD in January I will see if they will make an account and see if we can make a video. So we can finally solve this riddle once and for all.
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Jack McReady wrote:everytime someone uses the word hack when something got modified or a loophole abused I laugh at the level of education... you obviously do not know what "hack" means. hacking does not exist in real life in the way people use the term, hacking is a term from business that came to the average scrub through movies. hacking simply means "quick code solution" in the world of programming. again I repeat, hacking is not possible once a software is finished, hacking means you change the raw code of a software. please show me how you debug a complex software and change the raw code, I would really like to see that happen modifing & abusing holes that are within a software is something completely different. and btw CoD was not "hacked", someone "clever" modified data game files through a HEX editor on his PC. this is neither magic nor hacking but happens when stuff is resolved client side and when programmers do a poor job. and regarding those modded controllers, let me educate you, those are usually regular ps3 controllers with extra microchips soldered in between the circuit. those microchips contain software that were written on a computer and the software just emulates user input at higher speed than a regular human could press the buttons. a modded controller can only do what a regular controller does except FASTER. a controller will not magically aim for you and the controller wont break the bounderies withing a game. if a modded controller allows you to shoot faster then it was already possible before, just a human user input could not do it that fast. if a seller states that a controller will do aim for you, he is simply cheating his customers (the irony) PS: "turbo" input does not work with the rail rifle. it has a spool up time and a fixed rate of fire.
If you read the manual for the modded controller that IWS linked then it tells exactly what you are saying. Controller inputs are only a series of switch INPUTS, they don't change data in any way and are only allowed to do what the code allows them. I can program microprocessors at the bit level and they do nothing but change the input speeds. All they are is a faster way to push a button, series of buttons or a combination of buttons. They may cause glitches in game but they are only taking advantage of sloppy mechanics.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 12:27:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Jack McReady wrote:everytime someone uses the word hack when something got modified or a loophole abused I laugh at the level of education... you obviously do not know what "hack" means. hacking does not exist in real life in the way people use the term, hacking is a term from business that came to the average scrub through movies. hacking simply means "quick code solution" in the world of programming. again I repeat, hacking is not possible once a software is finished, hacking means you change the raw code of a software. please show me how you debug a complex software and change the raw code, I would really like to see that happen modifing & abusing holes that are within a software is something completely different. and btw CoD was not "hacked", someone "clever" modified data game files through a HEX editor on his PC. this is neither magic nor hacking but happens when stuff is resolved client side and when programmers do a poor job. and regarding those modded controllers, let me educate you, those are usually regular ps3 controllers with extra microchips soldered in between the circuit. those microchips contain software that were written on a computer and the software just emulates user input at higher speed than a regular human could press the buttons. a modded controller can only do what a regular controller does except FASTER. a controller will not magically aim for you and the controller wont break the bounderies withing a game. if a modded controller allows you to shoot faster then it was already possible before, just a human user input could not do it that fast. if a seller states that a controller will do aim for you, he is simply cheating his customers (the irony) PS: "turbo" input does not work with the rail rifle. it has a spool up time and a fixed rate of fire. Hacking is a term used when someone uses a program to modify an existing program or infiltrate another system. The term is widely used and this shows your ignorance in the subject. The term hack is loosely used in a manner of subjects, when someone says they have been hacked they could mean a few things. Here is a few ways to say hack with out meaning the term of hacking or infiltration of a system. You a total f***** hack job. Hack the planet. So when someone says something has been hacked it means for some that the original idea or subject has been changed. Now can you please get off your I am trying to be smart and sounding like a dumb A** horse. you could have spared yourself from the shame that you brought upon yourself by using google to search for it first instead just showing exactly what I said, hacking used in that sense means you are scrub and dont know it better. maybe, if you had more IQ than a rock, you would find a wiki article about "hackers"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28programmer_subculture%29
let me quote it for you:
Quote:A hacker is an adherent of the subculture that originally emerged in academia in the 1960s
A hacker is someone who loves to program or who enjoys playful cleverness, or a combination of the two.
Hackers tend to emphatically differentiate themselves from what they pejoratively call "crackers"; those who are generally referred to by media and members of the general public using the term "hacker", and whose primary focus GÇö be it to malign or benevolent purposes GÇö lies in exploiting weaknesses in computer security.
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calvin b wrote:I was just in a match I can clearly hear it and it was very distinctive. It was a RR being fired with a modded controller. I am for one tired of this, what can you do when you see this, report it. Problem is trying to find the person in a sea of people firing there weapons. How can you tell it was modded it sounded like a CR with an RR sound. Just F***** sad. It's easy to tell which Rail Rifle user is the one using the modded controller; he's the one with the gun that doesn't fire bullets.
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Jack McReady wrote:calvin b wrote:Jack McReady wrote:everytime someone uses the word hack when something got modified or a loophole abused I laugh at the level of education... you obviously do not know what "hack" means. hacking does not exist in real life in the way people use the term, hacking is a term from business that came to the average scrub through movies. hacking simply means "quick code solution" in the world of programming. again I repeat, hacking is not possible once a software is finished, hacking means you change the raw code of a software. please show me how you debug a complex software and change the raw code, I would really like to see that happen modifing & abusing holes that are within a software is something completely different. and btw CoD was not "hacked", someone "clever" modified data game files through a HEX editor on his PC. this is neither magic nor hacking but happens when stuff is resolved client side and when programmers do a poor job. and regarding those modded controllers, let me educate you, those are usually regular ps3 controllers with extra microchips soldered in between the circuit. those microchips contain software that were written on a computer and the software just emulates user input at higher speed than a regular human could press the buttons. a modded controller can only do what a regular controller does except FASTER. a controller will not magically aim for you and the controller wont break the bounderies withing a game. if a modded controller allows you to shoot faster then it was already possible before, just a human user input could not do it that fast. if a seller states that a controller will do aim for you, he is simply cheating his customers (the irony) PS: "turbo" input does not work with the rail rifle. it has a spool up time and a fixed rate of fire. Hacking is a term used when someone uses a program to modify an existing program or infiltrate another system. The term is widely used and this shows your ignorance in the subject. The term hack is loosely used in a manner of subjects, when someone says they have been hacked they could mean a few things. Here is a few ways to say hack with out meaning the term of hacking or infiltration of a system. You a total f***** hack job. Hack the planet. So when someone says something has been hacked it means for some that the original idea or subject has been changed. Now can you please get off your I am trying to be smart and sounding like a dumb A** horse. you could have spared yourself from the shame that you brought upon yourself by using google to search for it first instead just showing exactly what I said, hacking used in that sense means you are scrub manipulated by media and dont know it better. maybe, if you had more IQ than a rock, you would even find a wiki article about "hackers"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28programmer_subculture%29let me quote it for you: Quote:A hacker is an adherent of the subculture that originally emerged in academia in the 1960s
A hacker is someone who loves to program or who enjoys playful cleverness, or a combination of the two.
Hackers tend to emphatically differentiate themselves from what they pejoratively call "crackers"; those who are generally referred to by media and members of the general public using the term "hacker", and whose primary focus GÇö be it to malign or benevolent purposes GÇö lies in exploiting weaknesses in computer security. yeah, member of the general public, aka a scrub like you
Look I can argue with you all day, I know what a hack is and I am answering one right now. First off you have no idea by the way you use internet terms to define your means. I am not going to go any further. What I know I will keep to myself when it comes to the internet and all its doings. Better to remain silent and have everyone think your stupid than say something and prove them right, a wise man once said.
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You should find proof before screaming turbo mods. Also I can't see turbo being good for a rr.
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Kids these days asking where do i get one god u guys are all trash asking how much SMH
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calvin b wrote: Look I can argue with you all day, I know what a hack is and I am answering one right now. First off you have no idea by the way you use internet terms to define your means. I am not going to go any further. What I know I will keep to myself when it comes to the internet and all its doings. Better to remain silent and have everyone think your stupid than say something and prove them right, a wise man once said.
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