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R F Gyro Clones 4u 823	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote Hi CCP Could we have a dropsuit module that temporarily increases our HP by a massive amount, making us almost invulnerable? It should only last a short time. Could we also have our dropsuit speed increased so that we can get out to safety when it runs out? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Magnus Amadeuss Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:23:00 - [2] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Hi CCP Could we have a dropsuit module that temporarily increases our HP by a massive amount, making us almost invulnerable? It should only last a short time. Could we also have our dropsuit speed increased so that we can get out to safety when it runs out? It would be nice to have a wave of opportunity. You think you are badass... try solo'ing in amarr FW.
Heavy Salvo Fatal Absolution 142	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:24:00 - [3] - Quote Sarcasm acknowledged, and uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no. A salute, to all the toy soldiers left to melt in the sun by those who would only dream of conquest.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2425	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:26:00 - [4] - Quote No. but deployable shields may be a possibility in the future. As for an invulnerability module? No. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 158	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:29:00 - [5] - Quote Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. No one ever pays me in gum :<
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:31:00 - [6] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. message from Godin: Makes no sense lore wise, balance wise, and wouldn't look right at all. No.
Tectonic Fusion 729	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:32:00 - [7] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. Don't forget 2 gunner seats with turrets! Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1224	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:34:00 - [8] - Quote Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
R F Gyro Clones 4u 826	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:39:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. Good idea. Or maybe small turrets in addition to your large one. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 160	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:44:00 - [10] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Smoky Fingers wrote: Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. message from Godin: Makes no sense lore wise, balance wise, and wouldn't look right at all. No. Lol was jokin and expected that response. Metal gear ray has tactical missiles , machine turrets for arms, a laser guided water jet, and was more organic lookin compared to Rex, who btw wields a giant rail gun. Where da lazer turrets at!?! No one ever pays me in gum :<
Tectonic Fusion 729	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:46:00 - [11] - Quote Smoky Fingers wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Smoky Fingers wrote: Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. message from Godin: Makes no sense lore wise, balance wise, and wouldn't look right at all. No. Lol was jokin and expected that response. Metal gear ray has tactical missiles , machine turrets for arms, a laser guided water jet, and was more organic lookin compared to Rex, who btw wields a giant rail gun. Where da lazer turrets at!?! AAND stomps on people. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
R F Gyro Clones 4u 826	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:48:00 - [12] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: As for an invulnerability module? No. Why not? Would such a mechanic unbalance the game or something? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Smoky Fingers Red Star. 161	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:49:00 - [13] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Smoky Fingers wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Smoky Fingers wrote: Yes yes !!! Active modules and I'd like to have the ability to equip large blaster turrets on my gallente heavy, I wanna be a mini metal gear. message from Godin: Makes no sense lore wise, balance wise, and wouldn't look right at all. No. Lol was jokin and expected that response. Metal gear ray has tactical missiles , machine turrets for arms, a laser guided water jet, and was more organic lookin compared to Rex, who btw wields a giant rail gun. Where da lazer turrets at!?! AAND stomps on people. Lolol that deserves a bah dumm TSS No one ever pays me in gum :<
Tectonic Fusion 731	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:49:00 - [14] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: jenza aranda wrote: As for an invulnerability module? No. Why not? Would such a mechanic unbalance the game or something? I think it would actually help the game, because people could increase their KDR. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
R F Gyro Clones 4u 826	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:54:00 - [15] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I think it would actually help the game, because people could increase their KDR. How would KDR increase? Everyone would get less kills, 'cos we'd all be really hard to kill. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 828	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:17:00 - [16] - Quote Is no one able to give a good reason why this shouldn't be implemented? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 832	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:46:00 - [17] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Is no one able to give a good reason why this shouldn't be implemented? I'll take the silence as evidence that the Dust player community overwhelmingly supports this idea. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 657	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:59:00 - [18] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. My logi-code.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 836	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:26:00 - [19] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. Good point, but this thread isn't about vehicles. Really it isn't. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1225	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:27:00 - [20] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. Im sorry your light anti vehicle weapons isn't very effective against heavy vehicles ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 432	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:34:00 - [21] - Quote This is a cute post. Tank QQ with a mustache. Just to let you know, hardeners don't give a lot of HP, they increase resistance to damage for a short time giving the vehicle more EHP or effective hit points. As for apply that to infantry, no it would make infantry game boring and one sided. With vehicles it makes fights more tacticle, you have a small window to engage and then a longer period of vulnerability. My dropship had to sacrafiae 500+ shield HP for this. Should dropsuits have only 20 HP and this modual? No that would be boring.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 659	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:38:00 - [22] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. Im sorry your light anti vehicle weapons isn't very effective against heavy vehicles Since when were Assault Forge Guns light AV? That is the only form of AV I use... I suppose I am sorry for your incompetence if this is what you truly believe. My logi-code.
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 905	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:42:00 - [23] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Dear CCP, please give my Large Missile turrets the ability to lock onto infantry and track them around corners when they take cover. We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. Im sorry your light anti vehicle weapons isn't very effective against heavy vehicles I'm sorry I expected my Anti-Vehicle weapon to be effective against Vehicles. What was I thinking? "The unexamined life is not worth living." RNDclan.com
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 90	Posted - 2013.12.16 00:06:00 - [24] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: jenza aranda wrote: As for an invulnerability module? No. Why not? Would such a mechanic unbalance the game or something? How many FPS games have you played? Anyway because if a person has it they can get all their health back or not die when they are about to die when fighting someone. It is basically a I win button.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 846	Posted - 2013.12.16 19:24:00 - [25] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: R F Gyro wrote: jenza aranda wrote: As for an invulnerability module? No. Why not? Would such a mechanic unbalance the game or something? How many FPS games have you played? Anyway because if a person has it they can get all their health back or not die when they are about to die when fighting someone. It is basically a I win button. No-one wants an "I win" button. We'd better not have anything like this in Dust then, had we? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 847	Posted - 2013.12.16 20:29:00 - [26] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: We'd have to nerf them first to be in line with Swarm Launcher's effects on vehicles. Im sorry your light anti vehicle weapons isn't very effective against heavy vehicles Since when were Assault Forge Guns light AV? That is the only form of AV I use... I'm not siding with Pokey or anything, but it was you who was talking about swarm launchers. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
R F Gyro Clones 4u 855	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:35:00 - [27] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: This is a cute post. Tank QQ with a mustache. Just to let you know, hardeners don't give a lot of HP, they increase resistance to damage for a short time giving the vehicle more EHP or effective hit points. Sorry, I meant to say EHP rather than HP. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
lee corwood The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:48:00 - [28] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: No. but deployable shields may be a possibility in the future. As for an invulnerability module? No. A "I win" button would ruin the rhythm of the game and is a horrible idea, but deployable shields I can see being incredibly useful. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Come get some badass Band-Aids from this chick
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2561	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:50:00 - [29] - Quote I suppose an active hardener that consumes a slot and significant fitting cost could actually be doable. The speed module (Kin-Kat) is already in the game. The active hardener is meant to briefly increase effectiveness at the cost of a long cool down where you are more vulnerable. If properly balanced it should work. You give up a chunk of passive eHP for a larger but temporary chunk of eHP.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1509	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:52:00 - [30] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Hi CCP Could we have a dropsuit module that temporarily increases our HP by a massive amount, making us almost invulnerable? It should only last a short time. Could we also have our dropsuit speed increased so that we can get out to safety when it runs out? LOL no You're not a tank, or a tanker. If you don't like the vehicle changes people like you forced on them, that's just too bad. Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 884	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:53:00 - [31] - Quote i want a militia hardener that increases my tank by 40%. and a nitrous so i can run at 15 m/s. Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2561	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:59:00 - [32] - Quote Honestly I would expect most infantry to eschew active hardeners as too difficult to deal with. Short active times mean you would frequently take significant damage before being able to activate it and by then it's only hardening a small percentage of your shields or armor. Couple that with the need to sit out of battle for a minute at a time and most folks would abandon their use.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2561	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:00:00 - [33] - Quote TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR wrote: i want a militia hardener that increases my tank by 40%. and a nitrous so i can run at 15 m/s. Ok, it's active for 24 seconds and has a 100 second cool down.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4137	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:01:00 - [34] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Is no one able to give a good reason why this shouldn't be implemented? I'll take the silence as evidence that the Dust player community overwhelmingly supports this idea. Yeah, totally not laughing my ass off at how bad this is. Totally. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2561	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:07:00 - [35] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: R F Gyro wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Is no one able to give a good reason why this shouldn't be implemented? I'll take the silence as evidence that the Dust player community overwhelmingly supports this idea. Yeah, totally not laughing my ass off at how bad this is. Totally. It's a perfectly viable addition, if not very useful. With the current low TTK you will die before you activate it when surprised. When activating before an attack you'll get about 20 seconds before it goes into cool down. You better have cleared out all opposition by then or start running with at least 5 seconds left on your hardener.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 4139	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:12:00 - [36] - Quote Skihids wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: R F Gyro wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Is no one able to give a good reason why this shouldn't be implemented? I'll take the silence as evidence that the Dust player community overwhelmingly supports this idea. Yeah, totally not laughing my ass off at how bad this is. Totally. It's a perfectly viable addition, if not very useful. With the current low TTK you will die before you activate it when surprised. When activating before an attack you'll get about 20 seconds before it goes into cool down. You better have cleared out all opposition by then or start running with at least 5 seconds left on your hardener. Look, don't get me wrong here. Cat Merc and I actually spit-balled a bunch of ideas on the concept of Active Modules for Dropsuits. I was actually heartily in favor of removing "stamina" burn from sprinting, changing stamina to "energy", and then running Active Modules off of that. For anyone who has played the first Crysis game, think of it that way. You could put a module in your equipment slot that gives you special abilities until you run out of energy, and then shuts down. The problem with an invulnerability module is that it makes playing without one impossible. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2562	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:55:00 - [37] - Quote My point is that active hardeners for vehicles aren't game breaking in and of themselves. They have to be managed and they trade short durations of high eHP for longer durations of low eHP. Low passive eHP means any surprise attack is likely to kill you. Yes vehicles still need balancing and yes additional content would make that possible. 1.7 is a complete rewrite so any previous balance work is scrapped and we are starting over. I get that people are getting exhausted with all this development, but you are playing an early beta game and that comes part and parcel.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 250	Posted - 2013.12.17 21:59:00 - [38] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Hi CCP Could we have a dropsuit module that temporarily increases our HP by a massive amount, making us almost invulnerable? It should only last a short time. Could we also have our dropsuit speed increased so that we can get out to safety when it runs out? MTAC https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/MTAC?_ga=1.85232281.1640929137.1365175653
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution 2520	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:06:00 - [39] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: No. but deployable shields may be a possibility in the future. As for an invulnerability module? No. Heavies should get an active resistance module similar to tanks, with a shorter window. You know it be true.
Awry Barux Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 433	Posted - 2013.12.17 22:06:00 - [40] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: The problem with an invulnerability module is that it makes playing without one impossible. I'd be ok with that. Heck, build it right in to every suit, give heavies one with a longer duration, give scouts shorter duration but lower CD, etc. I think it'd be fun- especially if it wasn't invulnerability but a 40-60% resist boost. I think it would make the game a lot more interesting.

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