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Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 6	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:33:00 - [1] - Quote Look im not saying the new tanks are bad, i actually find them funny too look at cus they're so damn broken...only in this game will tanks be this much of a joke...but honestly they are a lot ** harder to kill now, and since any match can be filled with 4 of them...to balance this i would suggest at least making av nades and swarmers just as broken as the tanks. With all the goddamn buffs and sheild tanks have now throwing such weapons now is just a minor irritant, and whem finally tanks do feel the sting they just jet out to go heal themselves... you dont up the anty on one aspect of a game and not balance it around the universe its in...its ***** bad game design CCP!
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 248	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:38:00 - [2] - Quote message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting.
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 7	Posted - 2013.12.15 18:46:00 - [3] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen...
Benjamin Ciscko The Generals General Tso's Alliance 364	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:01:00 - [4] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra Tanks aren't broken film or it didn't happen. Tanker/Logi Tanks almost fixed.
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 7	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:06:00 - [5] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra Tanks aren't broken film or it didn't happen. wow you're a mature **** arent you? ok pal...come squad up with me..i wanna see you take out some tanks...if you dont im gonna call you's a biach
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 250	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:16:00 - [6] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass.
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 7	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:19:00 - [7] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. like i said...you's a biach till you squad with me....
Woka II Ultramarine Corp 4	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:36:00 - [8] - Quote Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team.
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 10	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:44:00 - [9] - Quote Woka II wrote: Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui KOBAYASHI MARU PROJECT 209	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:46:00 - [10] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra That's their answer for everything , " get good " like that's some type of mantra or something . Hey I didn't see that you just said that too until now ... DUH ME but I don't believe that either with their speed and such fast reaping mods I cant believe when someone speaks like that . He's right , film it or just stop lying . That goes for all who are talking about how many tanks that they have blown up . I have killed some too but it's with Railgun Turrets and one time I had help tag teaming with a Forge Gunner . For as many that you CAN find just in one match , if they were so easy to kill I'm sure so many people wouldn't be complaining like they have been . So I guess your calling them weak too huh ??? " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!

Woka II Ultramarine Corp 4	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:46:00 - [11] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: Woka II wrote: Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters Railguns my friend or get a **** fit sica w/ missles.
Woka II Ultramarine Corp 4	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:47:00 - [12] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra That's their answer for everything , " get good " like that's some type of mantra or something . Hey I didn't see that you just said that too until now ... DUH ME but I don't believe that either with their speed and such fast reaping mods I cant believe when someone speaks like that . He's right , film it or just stop lying . That goes for all who are talking about how many tanks that they have blown up . I have killed some too but it's with Railgun Turrets and one time I had help tag teaming with a Forge Gunner . For as many that you CAN find just in one match , if they were so easy to kill I'm sure so many people wouldn't be complaining like they have been . So I guess your calling them weak too huh ??? Bump ^^
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 397	Posted - 2013.12.15 19:51:00 - [13] - Quote The game is a joke right now. Tanks make the game lol. Plain and simple. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 353	Posted - 2013.12.15 20:15:00 - [14] - Quote Or just shitfit plasma cannon? It does similar damage to a forge, and you have mobility. Hit weakspots and stop being a scrub. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) The only bad AV is ones not using Plc.
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1520	Posted - 2013.12.15 20:17:00 - [15] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra Tanks aren't broken film or it didn't happen. lol only tankers say this. tanks are broken, because of all the tank spam. CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 11	Posted - 2013.12.15 20:21:00 - [16] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: Or just shitfit plasma cannon? It does similar damage to a forge, and you have mobility. Hit weakspots and stop being a scrub. Plasma cannon ey? havent tried that weapon at all Also like i said to the other guy...show me you can bust some tanks as you have described...if you cant film it or squad up and show me ims just gonna calls yous a biach...
Malice TheRipper PiZzA DuDeS 11	Posted - 2013.12.15 20:23:00 - [17] - Quote Woka II wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Woka II wrote: Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters Railguns my friend or get a **** fit sica w/ missles. Hmm I shall try this out, ANYTHING that will kill tanks will be a godsend at this point.
ladwar Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1924	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:38:00 - [18] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. this is true.. most av i kill just stands in the middle of the road without cover and think they'll win in a pure damage stand point.. doesn't happen and should never happen. Level 2 Forum Warrior, retired vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth not looking for a corp, don't ask.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2400	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:42:00 - [19] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. Don't worry I've adapted. EVERYONE USE MILITIA TANKS BECAUSE: 1. They're more effective then my proto swarms with prof 4 and 3 damage mods 2. They can kill infantry efficiently 3. They're cheaper 4. They can resist even proto AV (Seriously how is that balanced) 5. You can make an effective tank fit with 0 SP required
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2400	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:43:00 - [20] - Quote ladwar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. this is true.. most av i kill just stands in the middle of the road without cover and think they'll win in a pure damage stand point.. doesn't happen and should never happen. Maybe you should look at people who are actually good at AV not noobs with militia swarms.

Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:44:00 - [21] - Quote Woka II wrote: Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. message from Godin: I've seen a RE Scout go 13 vehicle kills in a match. I had to use a wiki swarm as well as fluxes, and only got 9 so far. There's people with far better skills than me.
Jason Pearson 3446	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:47:00 - [22] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: to balance this i would suggest at least making av nades and swarmers just as broken as the tanks. So your suggestion is to buff AV nades and swarms so they can (like previously) **** over any tank in the game? No, thank you. Tank v Tank is in a wonderful place, AV v Tank is fine BUT there's issues that isn't down to the lack of damage. Two major issues are the fact you can stack hardeners making you immensely strong for a ridiculous time with only a small cooldown period. Two, we're able to escape from AV as soon as the active goes down, we need a slight speed reduction, and you guys need to be able to hit us with Webifiers, to make us move at a crawl so you can smash us when our hardeners are down. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire. Buffing or Debuffing Vehicles or AV will never fix anything.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:47:00 - [23] - Quote Malice TheRipper wrote: Woka II wrote: Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters message from Godin: 1: No, no I am not. 2: If you want to kill them, as I have said, get good, There's several ways to kill a HAV. It all depends on the HAV in question. The first step is to figure out it's fit. Once you do that, it's a piece of cake. 3: Making something broken instead of fixing a small glitch and adjusting the speed is just plain stupid.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:50:00 - [24] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: ladwar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. this is true.. most av i kill just stands in the middle of the road without cover and think they'll win in a pure damage stand point.. doesn't happen and should never happen. Maybe you should look at people who are actually good at AV not noobs with militia swarms. message from Godin: The self-proclaimed good AV'ers that I've seen haven't adapted yet.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2403	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:53:00 - [25] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: ladwar wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Malice TheRipper wrote: Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. this is true.. most av i kill just stands in the middle of the road without cover and think they'll win in a pure damage stand point.. doesn't happen and should never happen. Maybe you should look at people who are actually good at AV not noobs with militia swarms. message from Godin: The self-proclaimed good AV'ers that I've seen haven't adapted yet. Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud. message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable.
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2406	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:23:00 - [27] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud. message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. 1. I've destroyed plenty of maddys and gunnys with my militia tanks. They could be scrubs but I don't care I'm making a profit more efficiently then I can with proto swarms either way. 2. It is adapting. It's adapting from an UP weapon to a good one. Also I do wait until modules are down. How do you think I kill other tanks?
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 259	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:42:00 - [28] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud. message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. 1. I've destroyed plenty of maddys and gunnys with my militia tanks. They could be scrubs but I don't care I'm making a profit more efficiently then I can with proto swarms either way. 2. It is adapting. It's adapting from an UP weapon to a good one. Also I do wait until modules are down. How do you think I kill other tanks? message from Godin: Can't kill mine with those tatics, and AV is fine. If I can use it, so can you.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 916	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:46:00 - [29] - Quote All CCP has to do is nerf the militia vehicles and modules and to increase the SP gap such that it takes SP investment to make a good fit and not this 0 SP Soma/Sica crap that's as effective as a 10 million SP Madrugar/Gunnlogi. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2409	Posted - 2013.12.15 22:49:00 - [30] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Roger Cordill wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud. message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. 1. I've destroyed plenty of maddys and gunnys with my militia tanks. They could be scrubs but I don't care I'm making a profit more efficiently then I can with proto swarms either way. 2. It is adapting. It's adapting from an UP weapon to a good one. Also I do wait until modules are down. How do you think I kill other tanks? message from Godin: Can't kill mine with those tatics, and AV is fine. If I can use it, so can you. Oh wow so I can't kill what 9 people out of the 100s of others that use tanks? I can deal with that. Also I never said I couldn't destroy tanks with swarms but why go through so much trouble when militia tanks are more effective then proto AV.



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