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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.15 18:38:00 -
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message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good
You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
250
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Posted - 2013.12.15 19:16:00 -
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Malice TheRipper wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good
You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra
message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.15 21:44:00 -
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Woka II wrote:Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team.
message from Godin: I've seen a RE Scout go 13 vehicle kills in a match. I had to use a wiki swarm as well as fluxes, and only got 9 so far. There's people with far better skills than me. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.12.15 21:47:00 -
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Malice TheRipper wrote:Woka II wrote:Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters
message from Godin:
1: No, no I am not.
2: If you want to kill them, as I have said, get good, There's several ways to kill a HAV. It all depends on the HAV in question. The first step is to figure out it's fit. Once you do that, it's a piece of cake.
3: Making something broken instead of fixing a small glitch and adjusting the speed is just plain stupid. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
259
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Posted - 2013.12.15 21:50:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:ladwar wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Malice TheRipper wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:message from Godin: Horrible idea, would make even more problems. Get good
You know, I find it funny that even though I've used swarms at the most 10 hours, it's still easy for me to kill vehicles with them. Maybe I've gotten used to adapting. Film it or it didnt happen... Also no one really gets good, at this game..can aim as well as you want and hit the targets all the time, usually a smaller merc can kill a proto merc by getting good..but sometimes its just the weapns...so cut the bs with the get gud mantra message from Godin: Getting good with AV is a thing. Hint: Don't just stand there like a dumbass. this is true.. most av i kill just stands in the middle of the road without cover and think they'll win in a pure damage stand point.. doesn't happen and should never happen. Maybe you should look at people who are actually good at AV not noobs with militia swarms.
message from Godin: The self-proclaimed good AV'ers that I've seen haven't adapted yet. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
259
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Posted - 2013.12.15 21:58:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:
Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud.
message from Godin:
1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 
2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
259
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Posted - 2013.12.15 22:42:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:
Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud.
message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. 1. I've destroyed plenty of maddys and gunnys with my militia tanks. They could be scrubs but I don't care I'm making a profit more efficiently then I can with proto swarms either way. 2. It is adapting. It's adapting from an UP weapon to a good one. Also I do wait until modules are down. How do you think I kill other tanks?
message from Godin: Can't kill mine with those tatics, and AV is fine. If I can use it, so can you. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
263
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Posted - 2013.12.16 00:11:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:
Well I am and I have adapted. Can't believe I ever tried killing tanks with swarms (Silly me really) when militia tanks with militia railguns are more effective then my proto AV. Those AVers should just adapt to using tanks like everyone else fking noobs. They really need to get gud.
message from Godin: 1: That'll only help you if going against a Scrub or FOTM'er. A real pilot such as myself will eat you alive 2: That's not adapting, that's changing roles. Stop being a ******* wall, and follow the HAV, stalk it down, and hit it hard when it's vulnerable. 1. I've destroyed plenty of maddys and gunnys with my militia tanks. They could be scrubs but I don't care I'm making a profit more efficiently then I can with proto swarms either way. 2. It is adapting. It's adapting from an UP weapon to a good one. Also I do wait until modules are down. How do you think I kill other tanks? message from Godin: Can't kill mine with those tatics, and AV is fine. If I can use it, so can you. Oh wow so I can't kill what 9 people out of the 100s of others that use tanks? I can deal with that. Also I never said I couldn't destroy tanks with swarms but why go through so much trouble when militia tanks are more effective then proto AV.
message from Godin: I can think of about 50 people who would flatten you with either AV or HAV's. another 3 could with fluxes and RE's. One could with a ADS. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
263
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Posted - 2013.12.16 00:27:00 -
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Woka II wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Malice TheRipper wrote:Woka II wrote:Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters message from Godin: 1: No, no I am not. 2: If you want to kill them, as I have said, get good, There's several ways to kill a HAV. It all depends on the HAV in question. The first step is to figure out it's fit. Once you do that, it's a piece of cake. 3: Making something broken instead of fixing a small glitch and adjusting the speed is just plain stupid. Your second argument just invalidated your first one. Saying get good is the same as calling someone a **** player and self promoting. Have you looked at half the stuff you write? You promote your self as this god player that looks down on everyone else.
message from Godin:
HAv's aren't broken. There's some problems, yes. But they aren't the unkillable monsters that people has called them out to be. And the second statement was a general statement, and a true one at that.
Also, I'm apparently one of the only players in DUst who has been able to kill a 1.7 HAV with swarms consistently since it's release, and stating that is self promotion? Somewhat, but that's beside the point.
Instead of crying, you can try different things. picking a spot, firing at a HAV as soon as you can regardless of where it is doesn't work anymore. actively looking for said vehicles, stalking them down, waiting for the perfect moment where you can probably do the most damage in a certain time frame, and act on that moment. Miss that opportunity, or attack too soon, and the vehicle escapes.
There's many ways to do this as well, for AV. My favorite method AV, doing it solo, grab a wiki swarm, some fluxes, and if you can, RE's and a nanohive. If not, just the RE's. You'll need a LAV as well. Stalk the HAV down, wait until those hardeners go off, then speed towards it, hop out, and hit it with all you got. Works almost every time for me. If you have a buddy (2 works better), then set one off in front of the path of the HAV, one behind it, and you do as you did before. with a bit of practice, you'll be killing them faster than you would with the solo method. Plus, they usually get confused as their escape routes are mostly gone. |
Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
263
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Posted - 2013.12.16 00:34:00 -
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Malice TheRipper wrote:Roger Cordill wrote:Malice TheRipper wrote:Woka II wrote:Don't mind him, he's thinks too highly of himself. He does have a point with the buffs you're asking for. Also you don't necessarily have to kill a tank, if you can keep him busy you're helping your team. Yeh i know he's talking bull...but I dunno..like i know i can make them buzz off for intervals..but i wanna kill them! like cost them money which would even further make them regret bringing out more tanks, I personally like quelling the issues, but it is insanely harder to do that now with these tank buffs...so i, kinda wanted some equally insane tank busters message from Godin: 1: No, no I am not. 2: If you want to kill them, as I have said, get good, There's several ways to kill a HAV. It all depends on the HAV in question. The first step is to figure out it's fit. Once you do that, it's a piece of cake. 3: Making something broken instead of fixing a small glitch and adjusting the speed is just plain stupid. 1...still havent shown up to kill my tanks for me so..yes...yes you are... 2. It's not as easy as just knowing what tank to hit and adapting, you may not have/be near a supply depot, or even if you do have the right fit, you would have t somehow still be able to get through it's ridiculously large amount of hp (mind you these are supposed to be MILITIA) in order to kill it before it blasts off, and unless you're always at some type of godly vantage point you cannot stalk a ******* tank unless you also have a HAV at hand...and you'd still have to go through this agonizing ritual or getting out and trying to shoot the thing before it speeds off, stupid ass. not to mention not everyone has the proto gear to even get close to doing what i just said to take out the over abundant super difficult than needed to kill them...its not about getting good, moreso about getting smart..and even if you're smart you have to be in very specific conditions. ...but its always easier for biachs to talk instead of do <,<... And yes something is op when its a very particular aspect, at very low cost/risk, that is harder to kill than it should effectively be..gosh...biaches..always talking about shyt they dont know but still wanna have the biggest ****...
message from Godin:
Read my new post and go to sleep.
Actually, scratch that, stay up for a bit.
I don't know piloting and AVing? Really? From a guy who used to Forge a good 5-7 hours or so a day, and who's probably piloted any vehicle longer than you have played period, I think I know more than a thing or two. ignorant little scrub thinks he knows something but doesn't know ****. |
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Roger Cordill
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
264
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Posted - 2013.12.16 01:34:00 -
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Woka II wrote:
I don't remember saying hav's were broken.
Well you admitted it somewhat so that's fair
I'm a tanker, its my job to know a tank's weaknesses and strengths inside and out, destroy enemy tanks and suppress the infantry , so I'm not crying about not being able to kill hav's.
message from Godin: When you said my second post invalided the first, you implied that it was. Nor did I admit to they being broken. I clearly said the opposite. Do you need me to buy you some glasses? |
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