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Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:17:00 - [1] - Quote seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs .
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 661	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:21:00 - [2] - Quote Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514. We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles. Not a ***** vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does ** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank. Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side. Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514. Cheers.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR 1113	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:22:00 - [3] - Quote Probably cuz they dont think? They have not checked how much tank prices are Too busy crying on forum's G£«NASCAR 514 !!!!!!!!!!G£« Check out my Youtube
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:23:00 - [4] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514. We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles. Not a ***** vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does ** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank. Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side. Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514. Cheers. adapt or die..i have 33 million sp all into proto suits...and i mlt tank spam..it works im having fun i dont wanna quit..i start running my suits other than av ina hav and im miserable ..not because of enemy tanks though because of shoddy game mechanics and miserably unbalanced infantry warfare
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:23:00 - [5] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: Probably cuz they dont think? They have not checked how much tank prices are Too busy crying on forum's cough with blueprint the soma i have been harvesting pubs in costs 65k
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 33	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:26:00 - [6] - Quote the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 661	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:27:00 - [7] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514. We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles. Not a ***** vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does ** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank. Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side. Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514. Cheers. adapt or die..i have 33 million sp all into proto suits...and i mlt tank spam..it works im having fun i dont wanna quit..i start running my suits other than av ina hav and im miserable ..not because of enemy tanks though because of shoddy game mechanics and miserably unbalanced infantry warfare Thanks for clarifying that you are perfectly happy with Tank514 And by Adapt or Die I assume you mean.... call in a MLT tank? amirite? LOLZ..... now that's the diverse MMOFPSRPG that I signed up for 2 years ago. Please.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:29:00 - [8] - Quote Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. dont try and take 3 tanks on at once or..dont tank alone bring friendly tanks with u i always tank with 1-3 other tankers.. when push comes to shove on a 1 vs 1 situation with no interference if a stnd hav loses to a mlt hav its because the mlt hav is a better tanker. when i get my stnd hav i expect to crush mlt havs just like i crush mlt havs with my current hav. also if you push and pull and are regen tanking u should have no problem killing multiple tanks one after another..if you space it right
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:30:00 - [9] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514. We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles. Not a ***** vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does ** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank. Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side. Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514. Cheers. adapt or die..i have 33 million sp all into proto suits...and i mlt tank spam..it works im having fun i dont wanna quit..i start running my suits other than av ina hav and im miserable ..not because of enemy tanks though because of shoddy game mechanics and miserably unbalanced infantry warfare Thanks for clarifying that you are perfectly happy with Tank514 And by Adapt or Die I assume you mean.... call in a MLT tank? amirite? LOLZ..... now that's the diverse MMOFPSRPG that I signed up for 2 years ago. Please. wel sorry but i used to tank and using a mlt tank in this situation is allot smarter for my character than speccing rr or cr and joining that fotm train lol and just accept it dust 514 means fotm
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 994	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:31:00 - [10] - Quote "Thanks for clarifying that you are perfectly happy with Tank514 " oh yeah tank 514 is so what i signed up for

ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 663	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:36:00 - [11] - Quote New weapons are fun and different in an FPS OP cheap no SP required tank spam ..... is not. Unless you are bad at shooting? I dunno what your deal is, I do know you have been around for a long while.. seen you in pleanty of matches... kinda shocked vets like you and many others are supporting the current state of HAV's and AV. Its flip flopped for the worst.... And unless CCP changes this very quickly, just like the Flaylock, TacAR, and every other overpowered feature in the game in the past.. EVERYBODY is going to be calling in tanks.. 4-5-6 per side per match. Once they realize that its the new FOTM, and the odds are super stacked against your team unless you spam tanks as well, its going to get messy Ive been around long enough to know that people have cried wolf, game is dying, this new glitch/exploit/FOTM whatever will kill dust. And the playerbase, while low, has remained constant through all of the doom and gloom. BUT, I'm gonna go ahead and say that if Tanks stay the way they are as of this post.... bye bye new players (unless they are coming here only to drive around in a tank). Do you disagree?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 6183	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:36:00 - [12] - Quote It's an issue because it completely invalidates almost everything else. Level 6 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 817	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:36:00 - [13] - Quote Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 545	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:44:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It's an issue because it completely invalidates almost everything else. This. There is no reason to use Infantry in Ambush, and everywhere else is just for capturing objectives and instillation.
Mr CreepyPasta DUST University Ivy League 33	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:53:00 - [15] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to ** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them attempt that on my Gunnlogi and you'll get missiled to . or my Madurgar and you'll get blasted to **.
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3123	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:21:00 - [16] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . You must be re8561986. Even if they are MLT and powerful and easy to use, some people simply just DONT enjoy running vehicles. You see , most people in DUST514 are here for the FPS aspect of the game, this is mostly infantry vs infantry. NOT to drive a vehicle. The Mere concept of HAVING to use a vehicle in order to be competitive is breaking dust apart. SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 819	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:28:00 - [17] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . You must be re8561986. Even if they are MLT and powerful and easy to use, some people simply just DONT enjoy running vehicles. You see , most people in DUST514 are here for the FPS aspect of the game, this is mostly infantry vs infantry. NOT to drive a vehicle. The Mere concept of HAVING to use a vehicle in order to be competitive is breaking dust apart. if that were the case why are we seeing so many tanks? Most people are here because dust gives us something not found in other games. I would have to say it is options. My class slots are constantly maxed out with various fits needed for battle. My assets are substantial. My wallet is fat. In other games my only option is start over. Here I just keep getting more bad ass
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3124	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:36:00 - [18] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . You must be re8561986. Even if they are MLT and powerful and easy to use, some people simply just DONT enjoy running vehicles. You see , most people in DUST514 are here for the FPS aspect of the game, this is mostly infantry vs infantry. NOT to drive a vehicle. The Mere concept of HAVING to use a vehicle in order to be competitive is breaking dust apart. if that were the case why are we seeing so many tanks? Most people are here because dust gives us something not found in other games. I would have to say it is options. My class slots are constantly maxed out with various fits needed for battle. My assets are substantial. My wallet is fat. In other games my only option is start over. Here I just keep getting more bad ass Again being slow....you... I freakn hate tanks ,not necessarily their PRESENCE, but driving them.... but the only way to take one out effectively while NOT risking a lot of ISK is by using a TANK myself. Its not that im having fun, but what other option do i have in order to win? Take out my AV infantry fitting that costs almost 3 times a MLT tank for DECREASED chance of success? This is not balance. This is just stupid. CCP is being stupid leaving the game in this state, where in a DOMINATION game its 6 tanks vs 6 tanks and the rest of both teams are snipers. Wow. First FPS i've played where Gun-game means nothing. SCR User Since release. Charge shot / Aim to the head / Listen to QQ
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 666	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:36:00 - [19] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: if that were the case why are we seeing so many tanks? Most people are here because dust gives us something not found in other games. I would have to say it is options. My class slots are constantly maxed out with various fits needed for battle. My assets are substantial. My wallet is fat. In other games my only option is start over. Here I just keep getting more bad ass Battlefield 3 did vehicles right, in my opinion. (haven't played much of BF4 yet) Each team starts with none, or 2, or some maps 3. They get blown up, they don't respawn for 90 seconds. Then, scattered across some maps... there are tanks that spawn at objectives once you capture them, but they are subject to an even longer respawn if destroyed. Tanks are not as fast as jeeps, they are not indestructible, 2 well placed mines destroyes most unless you have unlocked (which takes a lot of time) reactive armor. And here is the kicker... there are game modes, and maps, where Tanks are not present at all. The mere fact that you can call in a tank, anytime, anywhere in dust is unique... but it holds the game designers to a much higher standard when it comes to balancing them to not make them too powerful. What we have here in 1.7 is a failure to balance them, plain and simple. They were buffed too far from the previous iteration, and their one counter (besides other tanks) was nerfed in the same pen stroke. Failure, plain and simple...
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1498	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:42:00 - [20] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . asking this question proves your opinion on the subject doesn't matter. everyone being able to use them is the problem and the fact mlt isn't stronger than specced tanks exacerbates this problem and no, no skill is required.... I am bad at tanks I never killed a tank with my militia sica before this build... I just killed 3 in less than 2 minutes.... no sp required.... tanks spam is just as bad as any other spam. flaylock spam, MD spam AR spam grenade spam..... its all problems.... instead of reducing one trick pony tactics ccp just created a new one... also a problem. I hope ive enlightened you, though I highly doubt it. you cant squeeze intelligence out of a rock.... CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.

Paran Tadec Imperfect Bastards 1747	Posted - 2013.12.14 22:45:00 - [21] - Quote militia tanks laugh off swarms and forge rounds. Been running a shield tank all day to kill other tanks and i laugh when i see proto swarms. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 996	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:54:00 - [22] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them or its they're fault for just sucking at tanking..mlt hav ina skilled tankers hand vs stnd have ina scrubs hand..easy win mlt have ina skilled tankers hands vs stnd have ina skilled tankers hands..have fun your in for a heated battle that you will only win by yourself if your just that good
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 996	Posted - 2013.12.15 12:56:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . You must be re8561986. Even if they are MLT and powerful and easy to use, some people simply just DONT enjoy running vehicles. You see , most people in DUST514 are here for the FPS aspect of the game, this is mostly infantry vs infantry. NOT to drive a vehicle. The Mere concept of HAVING to use a vehicle in order to be competitive is breaking dust apart. yeah well i am here for the amarian heavy and laser rifle and yet here i am mlt tank spamming..why because ccp hasnt balanced infantry..and you do not have to have a vehicle to kill tanks i dont see where all of yall are coming from with this ..ive killed equal ammounts of havs with my av as i have with my mlt tanks since 1.7 i see no major imbalance issues you put 4 proto forge shots to the rear of any tank and they are just about dead if not dead ..then u chase em while they try and recover ambush em and badabing badaboom
Lorhak Gannarsein 702	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:09:00 - [24] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . asking this question proves your opinion on the subject doesn't matter. everyone being able to use them is the problem and the fact mlt isn't stronger than specced tanks exacerbates this problem and no, no skill is required.... I am bad at tanks I never killed a tank with my militia sica before this build... I just killed 3 in less than 2 minutes.... no sp required.... tanks spam is just as bad as any other spam. flaylock spam, MD spam AR spam grenade spam..... its all problems.... instead of reducing one trick pony tactics ccp just created a new one... also a problem. I hope ive enlightened you, though I highly doubt it. you cant squeeze intelligence out of a rock.... God damn, quit with the ellipses! First. I don't see it as an issue. I think the base hulls should have their prices increased, and I think top speeds should decrease, but otherwise halt the nerf train until tanks are somewhat more complete. Does my agreement with Mort mean that my opinion doesn't matter? Clearly there are others who are worse at tanks than you. I have no issues killing MLT tanks. (Unless there are five - bloody Nyain - but that's my own fault for running solo) And quit with the ad hominem - all it achieves is making this poisonous forum all the more venomous. >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Lorhak Gannarsein 702	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:11:00 - [25] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them or its they're fault for just sucking at tanking..mlt hav ina skilled tankers hand vs stnd have ina scrubs hand..easy win mlt have ina skilled tankers hands vs stnd have ina skilled tankers hands..have fun your in for a heated battle that you will only win by yourself if your just that good Haha, nearly killed a missile Madrugar yesterday. With an unfitted Sica that I'd only finished hacking as the Maddy came around the corner :P >Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:12:00 - [26] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker. its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . asking this question proves your opinion on the subject doesn't matter. everyone being able to use them is the problem and the fact mlt isn't stronger than specced tanks exacerbates this problem and no, no skill is required.... I am bad at tanks I never killed a tank with my militia sica before this build... I just killed 3 in less than 2 minutes.... no sp required.... tanks spam is just as bad as any other spam. flaylock spam, MD spam AR spam grenade spam..... its all problems.... instead of reducing one trick pony tactics ccp just created a new one... also a problem. I hope ive enlightened you, though I highly doubt it. you cant squeeze intelligence out of a rock.... God damn, quit with the ellipses! First. I don't see it as an issue. I think the base hulls should have their prices increased, and I think top speeds should decrease, but otherwise halt the nerf train until tanks are somewhat more complete. Does my agreement with Mort mean that my opinion doesn't matter? Clearly there are others who are worse at tanks than you. I have no issues killing MLT tanks. (Unless there are five - bloody Nyain - but that's my own fault for running solo) And quit with the ad hominem - all it achieves is making this poisonous forum all the more venomous. yeah i imagine when i have my standard tank killing mlt tanks will be even easier..i have no trouble killng em with mlt so cant imagine it would become harder..as my waves of op come faster..and with more dmg ...sound to me like a bunch of no skill tankers crying because they are being beaten by skilled tankers and think they should win just because they're gear is better. if u suck at tanking speccing them up wont save u
jin foxdale Jedi Slime. 130	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:12:00 - [27] - Quote I played the first couple of days after 1.7 landed, and got destroyed repeatedly by tanks that were laughing off all and any AV. It all seemed a bit broken so I decided to have a few days off. When I go back on tonight, I'm going to go tanking. Sorry, but I want to play my favourite game, and in a tank seems the only way I can, especially as FW as a Caldari seems particularly rubbish. (15 matches, 15 losses, many millions of ISK lost!) If you see me in the redline, driving an LAV in circles, fear not! Its my two year old son enjoying New Eden.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:14:00 - [28] - Quote jin foxdale wrote: I played the first couple of days after 1.7 landed, and got destroyed repeatedly by tanks that were laughing off all and any AV. It all seemed a bit broken so I decided to have a few days off. When I go back on tonight, I'm going to go tanking. Sorry, but I want to play my favourite game, and in a tank seems the only way I can, especially as FW as a Caldari seems particularly rubbish. (15 matches, 15 losses, many millions of ISK lost!) yeah cal fw is miserable..however i pulled a tanking squad into yesterday and we won repeatedly lol
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:16:00 - [29] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Mr CreepyPasta wrote: the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them or its they're fault for just sucking at tanking..mlt hav ina skilled tankers hand vs stnd have ina scrubs hand..easy win mlt have ina skilled tankers hands vs stnd have ina skilled tankers hands..have fun your in for a heated battle that you will only win by yourself if your just that good Haha, nearly killed a missile Madrugar yesterday. With an unfitted Sica that I'd only finished hacking as the Maddy came around the corner :P i got ina duel yesterday that ended with both our tanks dead his stn and my mlt and then to b worse as we were in cqc then we both hopped out and fought on foot..then i called my 50k tank back and continued patrolling lols..love luring blaster maddys with a blaster soma into 2 of my buddies missile gunlogi's pop goes the weasel
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 189	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:25:00 - [30] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. This right here. So your using a STD tank against Pro AV nades & FG and your living? Doesn't that kill the hole point of getting a better FG or anything AV if they dont work on the tier difference? This is like using a milita suit to kill a pro suit. Saying it should take 8 miltia or 6 ADV or 4 Pro suits to kill one PRO suit? I sure as hell dont hope so. If it does you need better gun game. So what will PRO tanks be like? Will they have 9000 shield or 9000 armor BASE? Will there speed be doubled? Will the AV we have now need 7 or 8 people PRO AV per tank? Will tankers get another respec once the ADV tanks are back and PRO are in? Its not your failt you guys were stuck with STD and ADV tanks for a long time. its CCP. Look how long its taking for new heavy suits or even heavy guns! Why didnt tankers want to get there PRO tanks instead of a buff and leave AV alone. Ok maybe the Packed PRO AV nades did a LITTLE to much damage and the FG did take out a good 25% with each shot but to buff and nerf at the same time. Thats not how you balance anything. Now the only way to kill a tank is a tank. AV is junk unless 6 players use AV and dont get killed. The cost of tanks are also so very low its kinda stupid. A logy suit can now be worth more then a tank. Im all down for saving isk but come on tankers you know you pis*** your paints once you seen how cheap they are. I sure did on my alt. Cant wait to see how CCP buffs scouts when it happens CQC will be done for. Scouts will sprint at 25m/s with 1000 EHP if thats called balance IDK what is. CCP dont get any ideas. Heavys only have 2 heavy guns. Please dont turn the NERF bat on them. Give heavys more suits or guns soonGäó

Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:44:00 - [31] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: seriously why is it an issue? everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks. This right here. So your using a STD tank against Pro AV nades & FG and your living? Doesn't that kill the hole point of getting a better FG or anything AV if they dont work on the tier difference? This is like using a milita suit to kill a pro suit. Saying it should take 8 miltia or 6 ADV or 4 Pro suits to kill one PRO suit? I sure as hell dont hope so. If it does you need better gun game. So what will PRO tanks be like? Will they have 9000 shield or 9000 armor BASE? Will there speed be doubled? Will the AV we have now need 7 or 8 people PRO AV per tank? Will tankers get another respec once the ADV tanks are back and PRO are in? Its not your failt you guys were stuck with STD and ADV tanks for a long time. its CCP. Look how long its taking for new heavy suits or even heavy guns! Why didnt tankers want to get there PRO tanks instead of a buff and leave AV alone. Ok maybe the Packed PRO AV nades did a LITTLE to much damage and the FG did take out a good 25% with each shot but to buff and nerf at the same time. Thats not how you balance anything. Now the only way to kill a tank is a tank. AV is junk unless 6 players use AV and dont get killed. The cost of tanks are also so very low its kinda stupid. A logy suit can now be worth more then a tank. Im all down for saving isk but come on tankers you know you pis*** your paints once you seen how cheap they are. I sure did on my alt. Cant wait to see how CCP buffs scouts when it happens CQC will be done for. Scouts will sprint at 25m/s with 1000 EHP if thats called balance IDK what is. CCP dont get any ideas. not really actually i am regen tanking and speed tanking a soma...i dont take to much dmg i run around and come back up hit my scanners and kill the av also i would like to note that is is very possible to kill my tank with av..but if you think you are going to solo me at 8 m like most of these swarmer scrubs are trying THINK AGAIN bullet hit detection is spot on i tanked chromosome i will load your body full of blaster rounds..you swarmers need to start engaging farth away tanks arent insta pop and they can and will kill you..so play smart this 8m try and out strafe a blaster when im using it not gunna fly maybe a scrub wont kill you but any skilled tanker now since 1.7 wont be killed that close.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 998	Posted - 2013.12.15 13:51:00 - [32] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: militia tanks laugh off swarms and forge rounds. Been running a shield tank all day to kill other tanks and i laugh when i see proto swarms. killed a sica with shield hardeners up took a full clip from a forge ..if anything shield hardeners may have slightly to high numbers..and speed may need an adjustment ..but mostly the reason 1. 7 has gone this way is because tankers that are used to dieing immediately and av is used to running right up in they're face an slaughtering them.. CHANGE TACTICS you are not supposed to be able to run up to a tank untouched and slaughter her/him outright in seconds


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