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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:17:00 -
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seriously why is it an issue?
everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks.
i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker.
its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots
and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av
even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . |
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:23:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514.
We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles.
Not a ******* vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does **** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank.
Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side.
Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514.
Cheers.
adapt or die..i have 33 million sp all into proto suits...and i mlt tank spam..it works im having fun i dont wanna quit..i start running my suits other than av ina hav and im miserable ..not because of enemy tanks though because of shoddy game mechanics and miserably unbalanced infantry warfare |
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:23:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:Probably cuz they dont think?
They have not checked how much tank prices are
Too busy crying on forum's
cough with blueprint the soma i have been harvesting pubs in costs 65k |
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:29:00 -
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Mr CreepyPasta wrote:the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers.
dont try and take 3 tanks on at once or..dont tank alone bring friendly tanks with u i always tank with 1-3 other tankers.. when push comes to shove on a 1 vs 1 situation with no interference if a stnd hav loses to a mlt hav its because the mlt hav is a better tanker.
when i get my stnd hav i expect to crush mlt havs just like i crush mlt havs with my current hav.
also if you push and pull and are regen tanking u should have no problem killing multiple tanks one after another..if you space it right |
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:30:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Because most of us don't want to be playing Tank514.
We have played and enjoyed this game because it has been a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER... with vehicles.
Not a ******* vehicle wargame with 5-6 tanks on either side that take zero skill points to call in and cost 1/2 the price of a proto suit that took most of us MONTHS to grind out and earn. Nevermind the fact that my proto AV does **** to militia tanks and it takes 2-3 AV players coordinated efforts to take down one cheap no SP required militia tank.
Tanks needed a buff to survivability or speed or reduction in cost, not all 3 along with a hefty nerf to AV and the ability for a team to call in 5-6? whatever the number of tanks allowed on each side.
Broken balance is broken, anyone who says otherwise is either not playing the game or perfectly happy with Tank514.
Cheers. adapt or die..i have 33 million sp all into proto suits...and i mlt tank spam..it works im having fun i dont wanna quit..i start running my suits other than av ina hav and im miserable ..not because of enemy tanks though because of shoddy game mechanics and miserably unbalanced infantry warfare Thanks for clarifying that you are perfectly happy with Tank514 And by Adapt or Die I assume you mean.... call in a MLT tank? amirite? LOLZ..... now that's the diverse MMOFPSRPG that I signed up for 2 years ago. Please. 
wel sorry but i used to tank and using a mlt tank in this situation is allot smarter for my character than speccing rr or cr and joining that fotm train lol
and just accept it dust 514 means fotm |
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:31:00 -
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"Thanks for clarifying that you are perfectly happy with Tank514 "
oh yeah tank 514 is so what i signed up for |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 12:54:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Mr CreepyPasta wrote:the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them
or its they're fault for just sucking at tanking..mlt hav ina skilled tankers hand vs stnd have ina scrubs hand..easy win mlt have ina skilled tankers hands vs stnd have ina skilled tankers hands..have fun your in for a heated battle that you will only win by yourself if your just that good |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 12:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:seriously why is it an issue?
everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks.
i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker.
its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots
and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av
even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . You must be re8561986.
Even if they are MLT and powerful and easy to use, some people simply just DONT enjoy running vehicles.
You see , most people in DUST514 are here for the FPS aspect of the game, this is mostly infantry vs infantry.
NOT to drive a vehicle.
The Mere concept of HAVING to use a vehicle in order to be competitive is breaking dust apart.
yeah well i am here for the amarian heavy and laser rifle and yet here i am mlt tank spamming..why because ccp hasnt balanced infantry..and you do not have to have a vehicle to kill tanks i dont see where all of yall are coming from with this ..ive killed equal ammounts of havs with my av as i have with my mlt tanks since 1.7 i see no major imbalance issues
you put 4 proto forge shots to the rear of any tank and they are just about dead if not dead ..then u chase em while they try and recover ambush em and badabing badaboom |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:12:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:seriously why is it an issue?
everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks.
i think the reason stnd tanks are getting killed by mlt is either because they are being ganged up on,or they are out skilled by the mlt tanker.
its a doable challenge to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank. stop crying blue dots
and its super easy to kill a stnd tank with a mlt tank and stnd -adv av
even if your whole team has no av and no skilled tankers you can always all call mlt havs . asking this question proves your opinion on the subject doesn't matter. everyone being able to use them is the problem and the fact mlt isn't stronger than specced tanks exacerbates this problem and no, no skill is required.... I am bad at tanks I never killed a tank with my militia sica before this build... I just killed 3 in less than 2 minutes.... no sp required.... tanks spam is just as bad as any other spam. flaylock spam, MD spam AR spam grenade spam..... its all problems.... instead of reducing one trick pony tactics ccp just created a new one... also a problem. I hope ive enlightened you, though I highly doubt it. you cant squeeze intelligence out of a rock.... God damn, quit with the ellipses! First. I don't see it as an issue. I think the base hulls should have their prices increased, and I think top speeds should decrease, but otherwise halt the nerf train until tanks are somewhat more complete. Does my agreement with Mort mean that my opinion doesn't matter? Clearly there are others who are worse at tanks than you. I have no issues killing MLT tanks. (Unless there are five - bloody Nyain - but that's my own fault for running solo) And quit with the ad hominem - all it achieves is making this poisonous forum all the more venomous.
yeah i imagine when i have my standard tank killing mlt tanks will be even easier..i have no trouble killng em with mlt so cant imagine it would become harder..as my waves of op come faster..and with more dmg ...sound to me like a bunch of no skill tankers crying because they are being beaten by skilled tankers and think they should win just because they're gear is better.
if u suck at tanking speccing them up wont save u |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:14:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:I played the first couple of days after 1.7 landed, and got destroyed repeatedly by tanks that were laughing off all and any AV. It all seemed a bit broken so I decided to have a few days off. When I go back on tonight, I'm going to go tanking. Sorry, but I want to play my favourite game, and in a tank seems the only way I can, especially as FW as a Caldari seems particularly rubbish. (15 matches, 15 losses, many millions of ISK lost!)
yeah cal fw is miserable..however i pulled a tanking squad into yesterday and we won repeatedly lol |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:16:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Mr CreepyPasta wrote:the problem is exactly that while im dropping half a million isk into my tank some none skilled trash player is dropping less then 100K isk. then when i go into a match there are 3 to 4 tanks ready to **** the life out of mine, i mean at most i'll take two down then the third to half armor but its not worth its weight when the guy bails or speeds into the red zone recall his tank call it back then i have 3 tanks ready to ravange me again. im losing to much from players who are trash and destroying the good name of honest, SKILLED, tankers. I roll my sica over std tanks because they think they have the advantage. Wrong. They get all tough and usually end up exploding just short of their red line. its a hell of a feat to kill a skilled tanker with MLT, but its their fault for fitting their tanks to kill Infantry. Shame on them or its they're fault for just sucking at tanking..mlt hav ina skilled tankers hand vs stnd have ina scrubs hand..easy win mlt have ina skilled tankers hands vs stnd have ina skilled tankers hands..have fun your in for a heated battle that you will only win by yourself if your just that good Haha, nearly killed a missile Madrugar yesterday. With an unfitted Sica that I'd only finished hacking as the Maddy came around the corner :P
i got ina duel yesterday that ended with both our tanks dead his stn and my mlt and then to b worse as we were in cqc then we both hopped out and fought on foot..then i called my 50k tank back and continued patrolling lols..love luring blaster maddys with a blaster soma into 2 of my buddies missile gunlogi's pop goes the weasel |
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:44:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:seriously why is it an issue?
everyone can use em..they are not stronger than specced tanks..it requires serious skill on the users part or serious lack of on the enemies part for a mlt tank to trump a stnd..and that is only 1 tier difference. we dont even have adv or proto tanks.
This right here. So your using a STD tank against Pro AV nades & FG and your living? Doesn't that kill the hole point of getting a better FG or anything AV if they dont work on the tier difference? This is like using a milita suit to kill a pro suit. Saying it should take 8 miltia or 6 ADV or 4 Pro suits to kill one PRO suit? I sure as hell dont hope so. If it does you need better gun game. So what will PRO tanks be like? Will they have 9000 shield or 9000 armor BASE? Will there speed be doubled? Will the AV we have now need 7 or 8 people PRO AV per tank? Will tankers get another respec once the ADV tanks are back and PRO are in? Its not your failt you guys were stuck with STD and ADV tanks for a long time. its CCP. Look how long its taking for new heavy suits or even heavy guns! Why didnt tankers want to get there PRO tanks instead of a buff and leave AV alone. Ok maybe the Packed PRO AV nades did a LITTLE to much damage and the FG did take out a good 25% with each shot but to buff and nerf at the same time. Thats not how you balance anything. Now the only way to kill a tank is a tank. AV is junk unless 6 players use AV and dont get killed. The cost of tanks are also so very low its kinda stupid. A logy suit can now be worth more then a tank. Im all down for saving isk but come on tankers you know you pis*** your paints once you seen how cheap they are. I sure did on my alt. Cant wait to see how CCP buffs scouts when it happens CQC will be done for. Scouts will sprint at 25m/s with 1000 EHP if thats called balance IDK what is. CCP dont get any ideas.
not really actually i am regen tanking and speed tanking a soma...i dont take to much dmg i run around and come back up hit my scanners and kill the av
also i would like to note that is is very possible to kill my tank with av..but if you think you are going to solo me at 8 m like most of these swarmer scrubs are trying THINK AGAIN bullet hit detection is spot on i tanked chromosome i will load your body full of blaster rounds..you swarmers need to start engaging farth away tanks arent insta pop and they can and will kill you..so play smart this 8m try and out strafe a blaster when im using it not gunna fly maybe a scrub wont kill you but any skilled tanker now since 1.7 wont be killed that close.
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:51:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:militia tanks laugh off swarms and forge rounds. Been running a shield tank all day to kill other tanks and i laugh when i see proto swarms.
killed a sica with shield hardeners up took a full clip from a forge ..if anything shield hardeners may have slightly to high numbers..and speed may need an adjustment ..but mostly the reason 1. 7 has gone this way is because tankers that are used to dieing immediately and av is used to running right up in they're face an slaughtering them..
CHANGE TACTICS
you are not supposed to be able to run up to a tank untouched and slaughter her/him outright in seconds |
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