DUST Search - The Vehicle Revamp, Pt.2

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

What Is Electronic Warfare?
Electronic Warfare is a type of weapon designed to disable enemy vehicles in a multitude of ways.

Why Have Electronic Warfare?
One of the advantages of E-War as a mechanic is that it lets you design something to harass and disable vehicles, but not destroy vehicles. Currently, there is no possible way to reduce a vehicle's effectiveness without destroying it or killing its crew. This isn't a bad thing, but it's not a good thing either. It limits variety. Who would want that?

How Would They Function?
Somewhat similarly to Remote Repair Modules. Select the module in the module selection wheel, then lock-on to the target vehicle. Simple, easy, effective. The effects of E-War modules persist even after the lock is broken, but to differing degrees depending on the exact type. Additionally, most E-War modules become more effective the longer the lock is held.

ECM
ECM is a dangerous little tool. It has a chance to disable the enemy's externally directed systems (that is, things like remote repair modules, turrets, and other e-war modules). It's not completely reliable, but it can be devastating if you have a bit of luck. Does not persist very well, and effectiveness does not increase over time. A favorite of the Caldari.

Sensor Dampeners
E-War modules designed to disable the enemy's sensors. It greatly reduces the scan radius and strength of the target vehicle, making it difficult to locate enemy targets without the help of other vehicles and infantry. Additionally, it increases the amount of time required for the vehicle to lock-on to targets. The former effect persists for a while, sometimes capable of crippling the enemy's sensors for minutes at a time. A favorite of the Gallente.

Target Painters
E-War modules designed to "paint" the enemy. When painted, the enemy vehicle's scan profile increases dramatically, and the range at which they can be detected increases dramatically as well. The effect persists for a while, capable of painting a target for minutes at a time. Additionally, for a time after being painted, the vehicle becomes visible to all, regardless of scan precision or radius. Painted targets are also easier to lock-on to than non-painted targets, for E-War modules and guided missiles (but not remote repair modules). A favorite of the Minmatar.

Tracking Disruptors
E-War modules designed to disrupt an enemy vehicle's turrets. When disrupted, the vehicle's turret tracking speed is reduced significantly, making it much more difficult to hit fast moving targets. Additionally, a vehicle's guided missiles take longer to lock-on while the vehicle is being disrupted. A favorite of the Amarr.

Stasis Webifier
E-War modules designed to slow down enemy vehicles. While webbed, the vehicle's max speed and acceleration are reduced, making movement much more difficult. Preferred by the Minmatar, but most other races also use them.

What Would This Change?
This should allow vehicles to disable other vehicles without being given the ability to destroy other vehicles. All in all, it should make for more enjoyable and varied play. Want to go around in your LAV, harassing enemy HAVs? You can do that. Want to do the same with a Dropship? Go ahead. Want to make an exclusively Anti-Tank HAV? Be my guest. Want to make an LAV that hunts down other LAVs by webbing them to oblivion? Sounds like fun.

Additionally, it opens up the gates for a whole new kind of vehicle. An E-War focused vehicle, such as the Force Recon Dropship (information about which is found in the official Dust 514 dev blogs).

Part 1 - Capacitor
Part 2 - Electronic Warfare <--- You Are Here
Part 3 - Turrets
Part 4 - LAVs (Coming Soon)

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Ulysses Knapse duna corp 732	Posted - 2013.12.14 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote What Is Electronic Warfare? Electronic Warfare is a type of weapon designed to disable enemy vehicles in a multitude of ways. Why Have Electronic Warfare? One of the advantages of E-War as a mechanic is that it lets you design something to harass and disable vehicles, but not destroy vehicles. Currently, there is no possible way to reduce a vehicle's effectiveness without destroying it or killing its crew. This isn't a bad thing, but it's not a good thing either. It limits variety. Who would want that? How Would They Function? Somewhat similarly to Remote Repair Modules. Select the module in the module selection wheel, then lock-on to the target vehicle. Simple, easy, effective. The effects of E-War modules persist even after the lock is broken, but to differing degrees depending on the exact type. Additionally, most E-War modules become more effective the longer the lock is held. ECM ECM is a dangerous little tool. It has a chance to disable the enemy's externally directed systems (that is, things like remote repair modules, turrets, and other e-war modules). It's not completely reliable, but it can be devastating if you have a bit of luck. Does not persist very well, and effectiveness does not increase over time. A favorite of the Caldari. Sensor Dampeners E-War modules designed to disable the enemy's sensors. It greatly reduces the scan radius and strength of the target vehicle, making it difficult to locate enemy targets without the help of other vehicles and infantry. Additionally, it increases the amount of time required for the vehicle to lock-on to targets. The former effect persists for a while, sometimes capable of crippling the enemy's sensors for minutes at a time. A favorite of the Gallente. Target Painters E-War modules designed to "paint" the enemy. When painted, the enemy vehicle's scan profile increases dramatically, and the range at which they can be detected increases dramatically as well. The effect persists for a while, capable of painting a target for minutes at a time. Additionally, for a time after being painted, the vehicle becomes visible to all, regardless of scan precision or radius. Painted targets are also easier to lock-on to than non-painted targets, for E-War modules and guided missiles (but not remote repair modules). A favorite of the Minmatar. Tracking Disruptors E-War modules designed to disrupt an enemy vehicle's turrets. When disrupted, the vehicle's turret tracking speed is reduced significantly, making it much more difficult to hit fast moving targets. Additionally, a vehicle's guided missiles take longer to lock-on while the vehicle is being disrupted. A favorite of the Amarr. Stasis Webifier E-War modules designed to slow down enemy vehicles. While webbed, the vehicle's max speed and acceleration are reduced, making movement much more difficult. Preferred by the Minmatar, but most other races also use them. What Would This Change? This should allow vehicles to disable other vehicles without being given the ability to destroy other vehicles. All in all, it should make for more enjoyable and varied play. Want to go around in your LAV, harassing enemy HAVs? You can do that. Want to do the same with a Dropship? Go ahead. Want to make an exclusively Anti-Tank HAV? Be my guest. Want to make an LAV that hunts down other LAVs by webbing them to oblivion? Sounds like fun. Additionally, it opens up the gates for a whole new kind of vehicle. An E-War focused vehicle, such as the Force Recon Dropship (information about which is found in the official Dust 514 dev blogs). Part 1 - Capacitor Part 2 - Electronic Warfare <--- You Are Here Part 3 - Turrets (Coming Soon) Humanity is the personification of change.
Negris Albedo Nuevo Atlas Corporation 37	Posted - 2013.12.15 02:44:00 - [2] - Quote I could get behind this if infantry gets their own version of it to use against vehicles. E-War Grenades, Proximity E-War, maybe even E-War Sidearms? Yes please!
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 762	Posted - 2013.12.16 05:10:00 - [3] - Quote Bump. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Faunher The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 31	Posted - 2013.12.16 05:29:00 - [4] - Quote Would EWAR be for vehicles or infantry? Or both? I always loved the idea of the target painter in Dust as well, possibly as the form of calling in an orbital, or of giving a tangible target to artillery on the ground.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 763	Posted - 2013.12.16 05:32:00 - [5] - Quote Faunher wrote: Would EWAR be for vehicles or infantry? Or both? I always loved the idea of the target painter in Dust as well, possibly as the form of calling in an orbital, or of giving a tangible target to artillery on the ground. Definitely to be used by and against vehicles. I can imagine that if it goes well, infantry might get their own versions of it to use against vehicles and possibly other infantry, but the core of E-War would be vehicle focused. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 817	Posted - 2013.12.20 05:29:00 - [6] - Quote Bump. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
The-Errorist Closed For Business For All Mankind 430	Posted - 2013.12.29 10:43:00 - [7] - Quote This would make vehicles a lot more fun, and diverse.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 329	Posted - 2013.12.29 11:05:00 - [8] - Quote I'd prefer infantry versions that function like the repair tool, but whatever hurts tanks.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 952	Posted - 2014.01.01 12:32:00 - [9] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: I'd prefer infantry versions that function like the repair tool If infantry gets their own versions, I doubt they would act similarly to the repair tool. It's more likely that they would be grenades or long-range, short-duration electronic pulses. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 334	Posted - 2014.01.01 14:55:00 - [10] - Quote Pass then. Grenades are too short-range, travel too slowly, and lack precision. Either something like the repair tool, or even better, like the laser rifle would be best.

Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 959	Posted - 2014.01.01 17:49:00 - [11] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: Pass then. Grenades are too short-range, travel too slowly, and lack precision. AV Grenades don't seem to have problems hitting HAVs, so long as you can get close. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage is more lethal.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1931	Posted - 2014.01.01 18:44:00 - [12] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: What Is Electronic Warfare? Electronic Warfare is a type of weapon designed to disable enemy vehicles in a multitude of ways. Why Have Electronic Warfare? One of the advantages of E-War as a mechanic is that it lets you design something to harass and disable vehicles, but not destroy vehicles. Currently, there is no possible way to reduce a vehicle's effectiveness without destroying it or killing its crew. This isn't a bad thing, but it's not a good thing either. It limits variety. Who would want that? How Would They Function? Somewhat similarly to Remote Repair Modules. Select the module in the module selection wheel, then lock-on to the target vehicle. Simple, easy, effective. The effects of E-War modules persist even after the lock is broken, but to differing degrees depending on the exact type. Additionally, most E-War modules become more effective the longer the lock is held. ECM ECM is a dangerous little tool. It has a chance to disable the enemy's externally directed systems (that is, things like remote repair modules, turrets, and other e-war modules). It's not completely reliable, but it can be devastating if you have a bit of luck. Does not persist very well, and effectiveness does not increase over time. A favorite of the Caldari. Sensor Dampeners E-War modules designed to disable the enemy's sensors. It greatly reduces the scan radius and strength of the target vehicle, making it difficult to locate enemy targets without the help of other vehicles and infantry. Additionally, it increases the amount of time required for the vehicle to lock-on to targets. The former effect persists for a while, sometimes capable of crippling the enemy's sensors for minutes at a time. A favorite of the Gallente. Target Painters E-War modules designed to "paint" the enemy. When painted, the enemy vehicle's scan profile increases dramatically, and the range at which they can be detected increases dramatically as well. The effect persists for a while, capable of painting a target for minutes at a time. Additionally, for a time after being painted, the vehicle becomes visible to all, regardless of scan precision or radius. Painted targets are also easier to lock-on to than non-painted targets, for E-War modules and guided missiles (but not remote repair modules). A favorite of the Minmatar. Tracking Disruptors E-War modules designed to disrupt an enemy vehicle's turrets. When disrupted, the vehicle's turret tracking speed is reduced significantly, making it much more difficult to hit fast moving targets. Additionally, a vehicle's guided missiles take longer to lock-on while the vehicle is being disrupted. A favorite of the Amarr. Stasis Webifier E-War modules designed to slow down enemy vehicles. While webbed, the vehicle's max speed and acceleration are reduced, making movement much more difficult. Preferred by the Minmatar, but most other races also use them. What Would This Change? This should allow vehicles to disable other vehicles without being given the ability to destroy other vehicles. All in all, it should make for more enjoyable and varied play. Want to go around in your LAV, harassing enemy HAVs? You can do that. Want to do the same with a Dropship? Go ahead. Want to make an exclusively Anti-Tank HAV? Be my guest. Want to make an LAV that hunts down other LAVs by webbing them to oblivion? Sounds like fun. Additionally, it opens up the gates for a whole new kind of vehicle. An E-War focused vehicle, such as the Force Recon Dropship (information about which is found in the official Dust 514 dev blogs). Part 1 - Capacitor Part 2 - Electronic Warfare <--- You Are Here Part 3 - Turrets Part 4 - LAVs (Coming Soon) Ideas for Infantry effects / Options ECM Effect on Infantry Chance of disabling equipment the suit has deployed and breaking rep lock(s) and Swarm locks (ought to buff SL lock range also) Possible types something probably longer range(50 meters) limited use (5-10 uses) (Sidearm or Equip) (This gives me an Idea I'll link it) with a either an AoE thing that has a lower chance 20% or a direct attack thing with a higher chance 40-50% Sensor Dampeners Effect on Infantry Disables Active Scanners and greatly reduces Passive scanning Possible types something probably longer range(50 meters) limited use (5-10 uses) (Sidearm or Equip) with a either an AoE thing or Direct Attack Target Painters Effect on Infantry same as above Possible types think Laser Designators Tracking Disruptors Effect on Infantry Slows Tracking or Reverses Joystick controls Possible types something probably longer range(50 meters) limited use (5-10 uses) (Sidearm or Equip) with a either an AoE thing or Direct Attack Webs Effect Slows Infantry Types Light weapon Variant that reduces speeds by 50-60% maybe and less effective Equip/Sidearms 30-35% A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 65	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:20:00 - [13] - Quote .
bogeyman m Learning Coalition College 65	Posted - 2014.02.08 01:21:00 - [14] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Faunher wrote: Would EWAR be for vehicles or infantry? Or both? I always loved the idea of the target painter in Dust as well, possibly as the form of calling in an orbital, or of giving a tangible target to artillery on the ground. Definitely to be used by and against vehicles. I can imagine that if it goes well, infantry might get their own versions of it to use against vehicles and possibly other infantry, but the core of E-War would be vehicle focused. I can imagine a Matari version of the Swarm Launcher that includes a single missile, line of sight, target painter option - a dumb-fire round full of nano-paint.


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