Back in closed beta, the most vocal members of the forum whined and whined and whined some more about the "TTK being too long", "combat was slow and sluggish", "felt like you were firing pea guns".

Ironically the people who did the most whining, arn't here anymore.

Just sayin'.

-closed beta vet who DIDN'T complain about long TTK, but complained about poor hit detection and massive tier imbalances making the TTK long in the wrong ways

Like remmnant said in his interview, we don't want a TTK thats too long, it just becomes Proto Suits Bunny Hoping through scores of noobs, but at the same time we don't wan't it too short, otherwise it becomes down who gets the first shot!

It needs to be short enough, that you can be killed relatively easily when you are caught out, but long enough that firefights become drawn out, that tactics, skill, attrition, and logistics can all potentially come into play in every firefight.

Unfortunately this sweet spot is INCREDIBLY hard to find, we just have to hope CCP realise they are currently on the 'too short' end of the spectrum!

I liked the longer TTKs, felt like you were a futuristic merc in a high tech battlesuit.

TTK is not to short, you just have to get used to three points:

- Intel is KING
- Teamplay is vital
- Cover is the best HP you can hope for

I rest my case.

TTK is not to short, you just have to get used to three points:

- Intel is KING
- Teamplay is vital
- Cover is the best HP you can hope for

I rest my case.

Back in closed beta, the most vocal members of the forum whined and whined and whined some more about the "TTK being too long", "combat was slow and sluggish", "felt like you were firing pea guns".

Ironically the people who did the most whining, arn't here anymore.

Just sayin'.

The DPS of the four racial rifles (advanced tier and assault variants) all hover around 450. A well-tanked fit has around 600-700 HP. That's about two seconds of survival in optimal range. I rest my case.

People are melting like a snowman in the summer heat . We do have armor and shields . They show them on the actual character's suits . THEY DO NOTHING !!!!! Shield are BY FAR the weakest items on the game and break in a stone's throw . Armor is WAY STRONGER ( but it still melts easily as well ) and if you take the supposed weapons perspective's into account , none do any of what is advertised ( some better on shield's and some better on armor ) but they all kill just as fast though . It's all a joke and it's not even funny and tactic's has nothing to do with the simple fact that there are flaws that are not being addressed but instead they just make and add new ( flawed ) items into the market to divert your attention because they know how easily that most of you move away from one topic or point to another and are easily distracted as well as intercommunity insults and fighting as well .

The DPS of the four racial rifles (advanced tier and assault variants) all hover around 450. A well-tanked fit has around 600-700 HP. That's about two seconds of survival in optimal range. I rest my case.

Back in closed beta, the most vocal members of the forum whined and whined and whined some more about the "TTK being too long", "combat was slow and sluggish", "felt like you were firing pea guns".

Ironically the people who did the most whining, arn't here anymore.

Just sayin'.

The DPS of the four racial rifles (advanced tier and assault variants) all hover around 450. A well-tanked fit has around 600-700 HP. That's about two seconds of survival in optimal range. I rest my case.

Yet so few people realize this.

It's really FPS logic basics.

Gonna add a few of my own.

-It's a game of angles. Create fire lanes, and watch the carnage.

-Play to your strengths. Why would you fight at a disadvantage when you don't have to?

-Get some Tactical Awareness. AKA Don't get tunnel vision. You should be aware of how the battlefield is changing around you.

Like I said , five shots and your dead and sometimes it's less than that .

It doesn't matter how many HP's you have and even if your a Heavy , the same can be said .

If you can't run your done and there's NO longevity in these matches , it's just get shot and die and watch the clone count decrease .

Seven , Eight and sometimes even a Thousand HP's don't even matter so why try to place extra " buffers " between yourself and the inevitable ???

Placed most of my skill points into my core and to place any scanner on my fits would compromise me , skill increases really don't help my suit scanner so to place any of the mods that came with the skill set would compromise me again . Seems that was the ONLY thing that the skill set is really for , is to unlock extra mods because the increases are NOT NOTICEABLE .

Following someone around with a scanner is futile and I would have thought that addressing my core skills would actually make a difference but the only actual difference is now I can place the better mods on a fit but at a price of defense or offense but I guess if I did so I could run or prepare to fight and place myself in a better position .

With the NEW shield penalty it makes one more hurdle to jump over as well as not being able to place enough armor and armor reps on a fit . Guess if I was a Gal character then this might not be such a problem . Guess one lives ( not very long in Dust ) and one learns .