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Kane Fyea
Scions of Athra
2384
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:15:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i mean yeah everyone can do it so do it have some fun stop qqing
I have been for the past three days. A lot easier to destroy standard tanks with militia tanks then it is to try and destroy it with proto swarms with prof 4 and 3 damage mods. |
TunRa
RETR0 PR0 GAMERS INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
261
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:17:00 -
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Multiple level game play is boring! I want COD 514
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:18:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: i mean yeah everyone can do it so do it have some fun stop qqing
why is a legitimate issue with balance QQ?
why are you so invested in this build if you don't tank?
doesn't make sense...unless youre lying about not being a tanker, or you just don't play dust and have no clue what youre defending.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:19:00 -
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TunRa wrote: Multiple level game play is boring! I want COD 514
lol you call the tank spam multi level playing?
you just made yourself look dumb... grats scrub.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4162
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:22:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:That isn't to say that everything is perfect and tanks are working exactly as intended in their current form - obviously. . this is what im saying. I don't know where you got all the other drivel you posted.... so you obviously agree. thatnk you for your post even though all but one sentence was ridiculous nonsense. You're right. It was complete drivel. You clearly gave me no reason to think you dislike tanks at all.
Seymor Krelborn wrote:I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... OH WAIT.
Seymor Krelborn wrote:tanks make this game boring Yeah, maybe not so much "drivel" as "actually reading your posts" - you should consider trying it sometime. Reading YOUR OWN POSTS, I mean. It tends to help figure out how you gave the wrong impression. I thought this one was pretty obvious. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1489
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:26:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:That isn't to say that everything is perfect and tanks are working exactly as intended in their current form - obviously. . this is what im saying. I don't know where you got all the other drivel you posted.... so you obviously agree. thatnk you for your post even though all but one sentence was ridiculous nonsense. You're right. It was complete drivel. You clearly gave me no reason to think you dislike tanks at all. Seymor Krelborn wrote:I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... OH WAIT. Seymor Krelborn wrote:tanks make this game boring Yeah, maybe not so much "drivel" as "actually reading your posts" - you should consider trying it sometime. Reading YOUR OWN POSTS, I mean. It tends to help figure out how you gave the wrong impression. I thought this one was pretty obvious.
I never said anything about removing tanks. and I meant they are boring in their current iteration.
yes I don't like tanks, but I have been playing since January 23rd so obviously tanks haven't infringed on my fun factor till now....why?
because they are now no sp spam machines....that's whats not fun...
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
105
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:27:00 -
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Lol boring doesn't mean ' I hate tanks.'
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
107
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Posted - 2013.12.14 20:39:00 -
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Next time anyone says they are 'bored' of Dust, I'll call them a Dust hating heathen. You good sir, have started a wildfire.
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4164
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:03:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:I never said anything about removing tanks. and I meant they are boring in their current iteration. Oh, you only meant the CURRENT iteration...
Seymor Krelborn wrote:I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... Could have fooled me.
Again with the READ YOUR OWN POSTS thing. Not kidding, you really should consider it sometime.
Quote:yes I don't like tanks, but I have been playing since January 23rd so obviously tanks haven't infringed on my fun factor till now....why? Really, so when you said "I've never thought tanks were fun" you actually meant to say "I've never found that tanks had a negative impact on fun"? I think there may have been slightly more than a typo in there somewhere.
Quote:edit: I should also reiterate that I don't like to PLAY as a tank... its not that I don't like tanks on the field or dislike vehicle mechanics in the game...I mean I don't like using them personally... Oh, so you don't actually have a problem with tanks as long as you're not forced to play as one? Guess what? YOU AREN'T. Good tanks are a valuable asset, but having a team comprised entirely of tanks WILL lose you the match. Good infantry are a valuable asset, but having no tanks will put you at a disadvantage against a good combined-arms team. This sounds to me like they've done things right. You can't win Skirmish or Domination without infantry, and a few good AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well. |
Malek McRoland
DUST University Ivy League
107
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:08:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I never said anything about removing tanks. and I meant they are boring in their current iteration. Oh, you only meant the CURRENT iteration... [quote=Seymor Krelborn] I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... Could have fooled me.
Again with the READ YOUR OWN POSTS thing. Not kidding, you really should consider it sometime.
Quote:yes I don't like tanks, but I have been playing since January 23rd so obviously tanks haven't infringed on my fun factor till now....why? Really, so when you said "I've never thought tanks were fun" you actually meant to say "I've never found that tanks had a negative impact on fun"? I think there may have been slightly more than a typo in there somewhere.
Quote:AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well. With what!? The now Roman Candle Swarm launcher? Forge guns don't really intimidate tanks now. You should get some fresh air, or at least share your recreational drug with some of us.
Demolitions Instructor
Event and Calendar Manager-Department of Education (D-UNI)
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3270
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:09:00 -
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HAVs are pretty much just indestructible nuisances right now. They aren't really much of a threat to anyone who isn't trying to mess with them, but they restrict movement and manage to destroy every supply depot on the map.
We used to have a time machine
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
994
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:20:00 -
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[/quote]
lol that's the issue... every one can and is doing it.... not fun... can you say FOTM?
who would have thought tanks would ever be fotm?[/quote] not true just earlier today me and tim and bloody mess were tanking..the enemy had multiple av and tank spammed as well we worked together an took em all on..stomped the enemy tanks bloody was running a maddy yes..and i think timm was in a fw madrugar he is not skilled into it neither am i. i was running a soma...if they blues had worked together they would have stood a chance as is teamwork is op and 3 tanks working together to run a field will always win vs 5 tanks durping around alone..tactics win with tanking play smart
not everyone can do it the blue dots in that match tried we stomped em..work together use team work and mlt havs...tank spam wont be a problem unless u suck at tanking |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4165
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:35:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote:Quote:AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well. With what!? The now Roman Candle Swarm launcher? Forge guns don't really intimidate tanks now. You should get some fresh air, or at least share your recreational drug with some of us. Actually, it's a prescription antipsychotic, but it has an interesting reaction when combined with... you know what, never mind.
You know how tanks are really fast? You know how they're also big and fat and hard to turn at high speed? Yeah. Go back and read the part where I said "INFANTRY-FRIENDLY AREAS". If you keep your team in cover, you can force tanks into positions where they can't exploit their straight-line speed advantage. If they don't come to you, they don't get kills, and they lose. If they do come to you, they lose their advantages, those Swarms will hit them, and they'll be forced to pop their resists. When the resistance wears off, you open fire again, and they don't have any more resistance because it's on cooldown.
IF (and it's capitalised because it's a very big if) you can keep an enemy tank in range and line of sight, a Forge Gun can brute force its way through resists and can slowly wear down a tank while it's actively repping. Doing so isn't entirely practical, but it can be done. If you have multiple Swarms, and you're hitting an armour tank, you can carve your way through that, too, but again, it's impractical.
To be at their most effective, even good tanks need infantry support. To be at their most effective, even good infantry needs vehicle support.
If the enemy team only brings tanks, and your team only brings infantry, it's possible to force a situation where they CAN'T win. if the enemy team only brings infantry, you need a combined arms force or an advantage in player skill to guarantee the win. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4165
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Posted - 2013.12.14 21:38:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:HAVs are pretty much just indestructible nuisances right now. They aren't really much of a threat to anyone who isn't trying to mess with them, but they restrict movement and manage to destroy every supply depot on the map. About half the matches I've seen as an AV guy have resulted in at least 3 tanks dying, usually at least 2 of which were killed by AV.
Every match in which I've brought my tank has resulted in at least 4 tanks dying, one of which has usually (but not always) been my own.
Saying "pretty much indestructible" is an exaggeration. And if enemy tanks destroy all the supply depots on the map, they have nowhere to get more ammo. Keep them distracted, make them run out, then murder the driver when he tries to recall. Or wait until he's called in a replacement so murdering him results in a free tank that you can hack. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1497
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:30:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:I never said anything about removing tanks. and I meant they are boring in their current iteration. Oh, you only meant the CURRENT iteration... Seymor Krelborn wrote:I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... Could have fooled me. Again with the READ YOUR OWN POSTS thing. Not kidding, you really should consider it sometime. Quote:yes I don't like tanks, but I have been playing since January 23rd so obviously tanks haven't infringed on my fun factor till now....why? Really, so when you said "I've never thought tanks were fun" you actually meant to say "I've never found that tanks had a negative impact on fun"? I think there may have been slightly more than a typo in there somewhere. Quote:edit: I should also reiterate that I don't like to PLAY as a tank... its not that I don't like tanks on the field or dislike vehicle mechanics in the game...I mean I don't like using them personally... Oh, so you don't actually have a problem with tanks as long as you're not forced to play as one? Guess what? YOU AREN'T. Good tanks are a valuable asset, but having a team comprised entirely of tanks WILL lose you the match. Good infantry are a valuable asset, but having no tanks will put you at a disadvantage against a good combined-arms team. This sounds to me like they've done things right. You can't win Skirmish or Domination without infantry, and a few good AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well.
what a joke you are.....instead of agreeing with me on what you agree on... that tanks need some fixing, you turned this into whether I do or don't like tanks.... what an idiot.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1497
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:33:00 -
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lol that's the issue... every one can and is doing it.... not fun... can you say FOTM?
who would have thought tanks would ever be fotm?[/quote] not true just earlier today me and tim and bloody mess were tanking..the enemy had multiple av and tank spammed as well we worked together an took em all on..stomped the enemy tanks bloody was running a maddy yes..and i think timm was in a fw madrugar he is not skilled into it neither am i. i was running a soma...if they blues had worked together they would have stood a chance as is teamwork is op and 3 tanks working together to run a field will always win vs 5 tanks durping around alone..tactics win with tanking play smart
not everyone can do it the blue dots in that match tried we stomped em..work together use team work and mlt havs...tank spam wont be a problem unless u suck at tanking[/quote]
lol earlier you said you weren't a tanker... now you are.... my point proven again.... only tankers find this fun.... I just got in my militia sica, killed 3 tanks in under 2 minutes ( I have no sp intanks)....there were still about 6 on the map.... just ridiculous....
like I said only tankers find this fun, everyone else doesn't, vehicles are now broken in a whole new and worse way.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
1498
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Posted - 2013.12.14 22:49:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:really for me dust is more fun than ever and do you drive a tank? im 100% specced into infantry and av
ive been reading your older posts.... your a liar.... you have always been into tanks... and you like to spam 60k mlt tanks.
don't make me pull the posts out to prove. retain whatever honor you have left and admit you are defending this broken tank mechanic because you are exploiting it...
you piece of crap.
CCp's newest joke, making setting off your own remote explosives in FW FF... awesome job ccp.
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Our Deepest Regret
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
379
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Posted - 2013.12.14 23:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:While I do belive that tanks themselves are boring, I do understand while they are there.
Everyone (including pilots) deserves to have their own playstyle. It wouldn't really be nice to tell someone that their playstyle shouldn't be included.
And I think that tankers themselves also make this game boring for everyone but themselves. But hey, as long as they are going 60/0 with ease they are satisfied.
This point of view is from someone who is both a Tanker & AV.
Where was your tank last night? You were on a bridge spamming swarm shots and dancing left-to-right, right-to-left like a drunken ballerina. |
Our Deepest Regret
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
379
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Posted - 2013.12.14 23:09:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote:
Or you can just admit tanks are FOTM with a nerf in its future. So yes, have your SUPER interesting game....for another 25 days or so.
And tanks aren't a core feature; you can't hack null cannons with a tank. So if you could, hop out of your tank so you can show off your godly gun skills instead of padding your K/DR by shooting infantry with no suitable counter AV to put you out of your misery.
Tanks aren't a the only ones padding their K/D/R. I've been on teams where the blues were absolutely destroying the reds, but nary an objective was captured. I've lost more than one tank because I've gotten out to cap only to get done in. It is a source of frustration. |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
998
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:04:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: i mean yeah everyone can do it so do it have some fun stop qqing
why is a legitimate issue with balance QQ? why are you so invested in this build if you don't tank? doesn't make sense...unless youre lying about not being a tanker, or you just don't play dust and have no clue what youre defending. lol i am an ex tanker from closed beta the only hav i have in possesion are mlt i have 300k sp dedicated to havs been speccing in since 1.7 since they are fun again..and 33 million sp specced into infantry..i play this game 4 days a week and have capped out every week since this game started
its a legitimate issue becuase mlt tanks arent op..everyone who runs av is just shoddy after a year of having tanks insta pop..they are about but not quiet as hard to kill as they were in chromosome i see no reason for this qq it is unfounded just infantry crying because destroying TANKS is not a cake walk anymore from foot..
well dust isnt supposed to be a cake walk its supposed to be a tactical challenge..
hey and as for mlt tank vs stnd tank..if you recall mlt ar has no problem taking down a stnd suit if the mlt user is better or has the drop on the standard..
same concept applies to tanks..if you suck dont even skill into it gear wont account for your lack of skills
fact is there are hundreds of tankers that are used to being insta wiped..and now they arent being insta wiped ..so yeah i expected a tank spamming period after 1.7 if it brought balance..i mean can u blame them? they have had the most up specc for 8 months |
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Lorhak Gannarsein
702
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:14:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:really for me dust is more fun than ever and do you drive a tank? im 100% specced into infantry and av ive been reading your older posts.... your a liar.... you have always been into tanks... and you like to spam 60k mlt tanks. don't make me pull the posts out to prove. retain whatever honor you have left and admit you are defending this broken tank mechanic because you are exploiting it... you piece of crap.
Seymor, stop being an asshole.
Pretty sure Mort is a better tanker than me, that's first.
I also know that Mort runs a lot of protogear recently, so can't be that hard up on ISK.
Finally, I know that Mort's been running a Soma recently.
All of these things suggest either no SP into tanks, or very little.
EDITed for profanity.
>Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
702
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:16:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote: not true just earlier today me and tim and bloody mess were tanking..the enemy had multiple av and tank spammed as well we worked together an took em all on..stomped the enemy tanks bloody was running a maddy yes..and i think timm was in a fw madrugar he is not skilled into it neither am i. i was running a soma...if they blues had worked together they would have stood a chance as is teamwork is op and 3 tanks working together to run a field will always win vs 5 tanks durping around alone..tactics win with tanking play smart
not everyone can do it the blue dots in that match tried we stomped em..work together use team work and mlt havs...tank spam wont be a problem unless u suck at tanking
lol earlier you said you weren't a tanker... now you are.... my point proven again.... only tankers find this fun.... I just got in my militia sica, killed 3 tanks in under 2 minutes ( I have no sp intanks)....there were still about 6 on the map.... just ridiculous....
like I said only tankers find this fun, everyone else doesn't, vehicles are now broken in a whole new and worse way.[/quote]
I am pretty sure that the stomping squads of AE and Nyain I've bumped into recently aren't tankers, but by their forum posts...
Well, they're calling you a liar.
>Cosgar: You know, tanks are actually paper thin once their modules are in cooldown.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1925
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:44:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:
as infantry I enjoy fighting infantry
As a vehicle pilot i enjoy fighting other vehicle pilots |
CommanderBolt
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
426
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Posted - 2013.12.15 14:08:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match....
as infantry I enjoy fighting infantry, I set my character up to fight infantry ( I also have a proto swarm, but little good that does now)
its not that tanks are OP, they aren't.
it's not that I don't know how to fight tanks, I do.
its that, with only 32 mercs on the field, half of them being tanks now makes this game simply ridiculous and laughable. theres no diversity, theres no strategy, theres no fun.
since tanks are so cheap now its all tanks. I just don't find that to be any fun.
that's it really....
Where you see a bore in the game, I have now seen amazing tank battles! Where the way you fit your tank REALLY bears how well you do.
I roll in my triple rep tank, other tanks with blaster stand no chance to my might. YET if I run into a well positioned railgun tank or ESPECIALLY a missile tank - those tanks have enough raw volley to cut right through my reps before they can start to repair me.
Besides has anyone else noticed how much damage warbarge strikes do now? I was hit with 1 single 'bolt' of the warbarge strike the other day, I had full health and according to the death screen that single bolt of warbarge strike did 12000+ damage to me!
In the past I could take a few hits, now one direct hit is enough to total my HAV. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1951
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Posted - 2013.12.15 14:11:00 -
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I played a match yesterday, skirmish map on iron delta, no tanks were used by anyone, one guy on the other team used AUR proto gear, it was the most fun match ever!!!!!!
There was truly good gun game that match!!!!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
I'll take your Iskies
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The Attorney General
1675
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Posted - 2013.12.15 14:43:00 -
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Malek McRoland wrote: With what!? The now Roman Candle Swarm launcher? Forge guns don't really intimidate tanks now. You should get some fresh air, or at least share your recreational drug with some of us.
Forge guns don't intimidate tanks?
Yet another winner from D-UNI.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1003
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:44:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:really for me dust is more fun than ever and do you drive a tank? im 100% specced into infantry and av ive been reading your older posts.... your a liar.... you have always been into tanks... and you like to spam 60k mlt tanks. don't make me pull the posts out to prove. retain whatever honor you have left and admit you are defending this broken tank mechanic because you are exploiting it... you piece of crap. 1 i have never can can never be accused of using the fotm i didnt touch flaylock 2 i removed my tac ar from my suit each time it was op..and i rarely even use the duvoulle 3 i havnt been able to enjoy tanking for a long time i used to be a dedicated tanker..i have both av and i have no problem killing any tank in dust 514 4 if anything you could say i am a avid under powered weapon promoter thats why my amar assault carries a lr instead of a scr 5 it is not exploiting a broken game mechanic tanks are not broken av is not broken i use both i get kill with both and yes i spamm a 60k tank because generally i dont feel the need to pull anything better. the fact is i am an ex closed beta tanker that has all her sp into infantry,..infantry is miserable tanks just went from being miserable to fun...so sue me for having fun in dust.. you think its easy to pull high scores ina mlt tank go try see how far you get if you cannot manage gtfo |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1003
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:50:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:really for me dust is more fun than ever and do you drive a tank? im 100% specced into infantry and av ive been reading your older posts.... your a liar.... you have always been into tanks... and you like to spam 60k mlt tanks. don't make me pull the posts out to prove. retain whatever honor you have left and admit you are defending this broken tank mechanic because you are exploiting it... you piece of crap. Seymor, stop being an assho le. Pretty sure Mort is a better tanker than me, that's first. I also know that Mort runs a lot of protogear recently, so can't be that hard up on ISK. Finally, I know that Mort's been running a Soma recently. All of these things suggest either no SP into tanks, or very little. EDITed for profanity. i have 300ksp into tanks old friend just this weeks grind lol, yes i am funding my 3 200k and over proto suits with my 56 k soma spam now xD finally tanking is valid and i can make money off it like i used to. i am speccing back into tanks slowly but if people are but hurt atm its only because they were to scrubby to handle a soma and at best loth we are equals :) although i appreciate the compliment |
Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1003
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
as infantry I enjoy fighting infantry
As a vehicle pilot i enjoy fighting other vehicle pilots ahh takahiro the sweet taste on your lips when you crush a stnd hav with a mlt hav :) and straight up out skill the poor newb tanker |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
8878
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Posted - 2013.12.15 16:54:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
as infantry I enjoy fighting infantry
As a vehicle pilot i enjoy fighting other vehicle pilots What you call vehicle pilots I call scrubs in militia tanks with no SP invested who are doing just as well as people who are actually tankers.
Vids / O7
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