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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4160	Posted - 2013.12.14 19:58:00 - [1] - Quote I have fun when I'm a tanker. I have fun when I'm running Shotgun Scout or a Logi role. I have fun when I"m running AV. Vehicles have always been a core element of DUST, they've always been an important part of the promotional materials for the game, and they're a key battlefield asset. If you don't enjoy them, you're playing the wrong game. Sorry to disappoint, but... can I have your stuff? That isn't to say that everything is perfect and tanks are working exactly as intended in their current form - obviously. I'm just saying that they're MEANT to be on the battlefield, and if you don't like tanks, you don't like one of the key features in DUST. It's worth reconsidering your choice to play if they're that much of a problem for you.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4162	Posted - 2013.12.14 20:22:00 - [2] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: That isn't to say that everything is perfect and tanks are working exactly as intended in their current form - obviously. . this is what im saying. I don't know where you got all the other drivel you posted.... so you obviously agree. thatnk you for your post even though all but one sentence was ridiculous nonsense. You're right. It was complete drivel. You clearly gave me no reason to think you dislike tanks at all. Seymor Krelborn wrote: I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... OH WAIT. Seymor Krelborn wrote: tanks make this game boring Yeah, maybe not so much "drivel" as "actually reading your posts" - you should consider trying it sometime. Reading YOUR OWN POSTS, I mean. It tends to help figure out how you gave the wrong impression. I thought this one was pretty obvious.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4164	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:03:00 - [3] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: I never said anything about removing tanks. and I meant they are boring in their current iteration. Oh, you only meant the CURRENT iteration... Seymor Krelborn wrote: I've never thought tanks were fun, but at least before you may only see 1 or 2 in every other match. now there are 5-9 in EVERY match.... Could have fooled me. Again with the READ YOUR OWN POSTS thing. Not kidding, you really should consider it sometime. Quote: yes I don't like tanks, but I have been playing since January 23rd so obviously tanks haven't infringed on my fun factor till now....why? Really, so when you said "I've never thought tanks were fun" you actually meant to say "I've never found that tanks had a negative impact on fun"? I think there may have been slightly more than a typo in there somewhere. Quote: edit: I should also reiterate that I don't like to PLAY as a tank... its not that I don't like tanks on the field or dislike vehicle mechanics in the game...I mean I don't like using them personally... Oh, so you don't actually have a problem with tanks as long as you're not forced to play as one? Guess what? YOU AREN'T. Good tanks are a valuable asset, but having a team comprised entirely of tanks WILL lose you the match. Good infantry are a valuable asset, but having no tanks will put you at a disadvantage against a good combined-arms team. This sounds to me like they've done things right. You can't win Skirmish or Domination without infantry, and a few good AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4165	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:35:00 - [4] - Quote Malek McRoland wrote: Quote: AV players can lock down infantry-friendly areas and prevent enemy tanks from capitalising on their advantages in Ambush as well. With what!? The now Roman Candle Swarm launcher? Forge guns don't really intimidate tanks now. You should get some fresh air, or at least share your recreational drug with some of us. Actually, it's a prescription antipsychotic, but it has an interesting reaction when combined with... you know what, never mind. You know how tanks are really fast? You know how they're also big and fat and hard to turn at high speed? Yeah. Go back and read the part where I said "INFANTRY-FRIENDLY AREAS". If you keep your team in cover, you can force tanks into positions where they can't exploit their straight-line speed advantage. If they don't come to you, they don't get kills, and they lose. If they do come to you, they lose their advantages, those Swarms will hit them, and they'll be forced to pop their resists. When the resistance wears off, you open fire again, and they don't have any more resistance because it's on cooldown. IF (and it's capitalised because it's a very big if) you can keep an enemy tank in range and line of sight, a Forge Gun can brute force its way through resists and can slowly wear down a tank while it's actively repping. Doing so isn't entirely practical, but it can be done. If you have multiple Swarms, and you're hitting an armour tank, you can carve your way through that, too, but again, it's impractical. To be at their most effective, even good tanks need infantry support. To be at their most effective, even good infantry needs vehicle support. If the enemy team only brings tanks, and your team only brings infantry, it's possible to force a situation where they CAN'T win. if the enemy team only brings infantry, you need a combined arms force or an advantage in player skill to guarantee the win.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4165	Posted - 2013.12.14 21:38:00 - [5] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: HAVs are pretty much just indestructible nuisances right now. They aren't really much of a threat to anyone who isn't trying to mess with them, but they restrict movement and manage to destroy every supply depot on the map. About half the matches I've seen as an AV guy have resulted in at least 3 tanks dying, usually at least 2 of which were killed by AV. Every match in which I've brought my tank has resulted in at least 4 tanks dying, one of which has usually (but not always) been my own. Saying "pretty much indestructible" is an exaggeration. And if enemy tanks destroy all the supply depots on the map, they have nowhere to get more ammo. Keep them distracted, make them run out, then murder the driver when he tries to recall. Or wait until he's called in a replacement so murdering him results in a free tank that you can hack.

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